Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:36:43PM +, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > If that's the only thing you're using unbuffer for, why not just use > the -C option of tree? It's a bit like the "--color=always" of ls. Oh, and the complementary option for `less', while we're at it, would be -R: tree -C |

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
e also "dmesg" does). That's what the "-C" option to tree is for. Cheers -- "if everything else fails, read the man page" tomas signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 10:53:45AM +0200, DdB wrote: > Am 01.06.2024 um 09:20 schrieb DdB: > > Hello, > > > I get it: you wouldnt trust my scripts. That wasn't the point. I'm just not in the situation to debug it at the moment. > Thats fine with me. But my > experience is quite different:

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 08:20:08AM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 1 Jun 2024 10:11 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: > >> for years have i been using a self-made backup script [...] > > > > I won't get into that -- I can't even fathom why you'd need coproc > > for a backup script. I tend to keep

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-01 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 09:20:59AM +0200, DdB wrote: > Hello, > > for years have i been using a self-made backup script [...] I won't get into that -- I can't even fathom why you'd need coproc for a backup script. I tend to keep things simple -- they tend to thank me in failing less often and in

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 01:16:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > > file while

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: [...] > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > file while you were half way through fetching it. This will depend on the

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

2024-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 02:02:47PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin > >> > >> I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll > >> need things like > >> > >> apt install libc-bin/bookworm > > > >

Re: Uninstalling a package and its entourage

2024-05-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Eben King (12024-05-27): > > Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in > > at one swell foop? Thanks. > > The packages you did not choose to install but were installed as a > consequence are shown

Re: Aliases and OpenSMTPD

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:08:56PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 06:40:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:45:56AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > Folks: > > > > [...] > > > > > If I send an email directly to pa...@yosemite.mars.lan

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:23:55PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:17:45 +0200 > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the global DNS stuff, so

Re: Aliases and OpenSMTPD

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:45:56AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: [...] > If I send an email directly to pa...@yosemite.mars.lan from buckaroo, it > arrives. That means this config can do what it's designed to do, basically. > However, mails to "root" on buckaroo don't get to yosemite.

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: [...] > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be used > for the global DNS stuff, so set a proper FQDN that belongs to you. I think this is wrong in that sweeping generality. Cheers -- t signature.asc

Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > > If your LAN is isolated, you can basically do whatever you > > want. > > And then act surprised when networking breaks :) You just have to understand what's going on, that's all > > > And then there are "special" TLDs

Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 01:50:21PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:08 PM Paul M Foster > wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:54:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >[...] > > > Also, I think you should be using *.home.arpa, and not *.lan. > > > home.arpa is

Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 07:53:31AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:54:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:43 AM Paul M Foster > > wrote: > > [snip] > > > > On the video server, run nslookup and see if it can resolve > >

Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 07:46:30AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 06:38:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Have you tried leaving out the "paul@" part? [...] > The smarthost URL is straight out of the man page. The "paulf@" part allows > OpenSMTP to figure

Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-22 Thread tomas
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 09:37:18PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: > > Here's a shot in the dark. I've looked up and down the internet, and can't > find a solution. [...] > "warn: Failed to parse smarthost smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25" > > Note that the "protocol" doesn't

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:25:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. > > Please don't

Re: How to create a custom Debian ISO

2024-05-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:20:40PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Aditya Garg wrote: > > I would prefer making the ISO as similar to the official Debian ISO and just > > replace the Debian kernel with the customised kernel. > > In that case, i'd go along [...] Not the OP, but thanks,

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 09:28:05AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > So, yes, I encourage you to send more of those, and if your recipients > don't like the result, try and get them to complain to their > MUA's authors (most of those MUAs are of course proprietary and are not > very ...

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:08:19PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not > standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a > setting. Most people prefer inline quoting around here (I know I do). That's because

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 02:11:53PM +0200, Richard wrote: [...] > Setting the permissions in /var/log/dovecot to 666 actually didn't > solve the problem [...] This seems to prove (or, at least, strongly suggest) that I was barking up the wrong tree. I've currently run out of trees and at

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 07:36:17PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: [...] > Postfix is chrooted (usuallly) to /var/spool/postfix > > If postfix complains about /var/log/dovecot it's actually complaining about > /var/spool/postfix/var/log/dovecot I'm sceptical about this -- the error would have been

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 01:29:17PM +0200, Richard wrote: > My guess is that postfix runs as postfix. That would be my guess too (or perhaps as some special "Debian-+postfix". > At least processes like local, > smtpd, bounce etc run as that user. But beyond that I have no idea how to > find that

Re: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:54:26PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Wasn't sudo echo the name of a pop group? > > :) If it wasn't it should've been one. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:09:18AM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > Nobody can show a different way,a modern way, for creating my script ? Why > did I feel so comfortable by recreating the 1960s GOTO statement in Bash ? I think your style is too alien to most of the people here to make them feel

Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:16:13PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Maybe someone here knows how the ownership of these files for Dovecot needs > to be in order to work, as various distributions of Dovecot packages seem > to use different users: > I'd like Dovecot not to log into syslog, but to dedicated

Re: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 08:37:16PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 13/05/2024 à 19:45, Stefan Monnier a écrit : [...] > > % sudo zsh -l > > # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > # ^D > > logout > > % > > > >  > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > sudo -i will

Re: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 01:45:40PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > $ su - > > Password: > > # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > # ^D > > logout > > $ > > > > I don't need no stinkin' sudo :-) > > And if you only have `sudo`, but not the root password, of course: > > % sudo zsh -l >

sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [was: How to run automatically a script as soon root login]

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
Since this happens so often, I'm trying to offer a recap. As others have noted, the above sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward won't work, since it runs echo under sudo, but the file opening (that pesky ">") happens in your shell, which is probably running unprivileged (otherwise, what

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 06:06:37PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Montag, 13. Mai 2024, 13:24:17 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 07:36:07AM +0200, Richard wrote: > > > .profile > > Sorry, dumb question: Depending of the shell, the user is using (let's say, > he > will use

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 09:17:31AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 02:03:59PM +0100, Richmond wrote: > > >> sudo xterm -e "echo 1 > hello" > > > Yes, but why did it allow me to delete the file? I was not root > > then. Try it. > > Because you have write permission on the

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 02:53:18PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (12024-05-13): > > That's like slicing your morning baguette with the chainsaw. > > Worse than that, it will only work from an X11 environment. Certainly > not at boot. The analogy to that would be that not many

Re: How to run automatically a script as soon root login

2024-05-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 01:36:23PM +0100, Richmond wrote: > I was experimenting, and found this works: > > sudo xterm -e "echo 1 > hello" That's like slicing your morning baguette with the chainsaw. But if it works for you... hey :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Spurious messages at the console

2024-05-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 08:57:24PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: [...] > Excellent advice. Thanks. > > Here's an oddity. The following commands are equivalent, according to the > dmesg(1) man page: > > dmesg -n 1 and dmesg -n emerg > > But according to every document I've viewed, "emerg" is

Re: Spurious messages at the console

2024-05-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 05:30:44PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: > > I've installed Debian (latest) without X on a small form factor PC, and > typically SSH into it, though I also have a keyboard and monitor > temporarily connected to it. > > I'm getting spurious error messages in groups

Re: Debian no es tan fácil como dicen

2024-05-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 11:45:25AM -0400, Carlos Garcia Elmis wrote: > Hola equipo Debian, soy nuevo en Linux/GNU y en si no es una correo de > queja si no de ampliar Debian, no solo instale Debian si no también un > montón de sus derivados, y en todos menos en una fue que me facilito la > vida y

Re: Lightweight Emacs for container?

2024-05-06 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 04:19:32PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Is there some package, or a simple workaround, that will allow me to use > > a basic Emacs without all the cruft? > > I think the usual answers look like: > > - Use Zile (or some other small Emacs-inspired editor). > - Use Tramp

Re: large complaint / very urgent

2024-04-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 06:03:46AM +, crackmap wrote: > hello > > large complaint But in the wrong direction, in many ways. > Please forward this mail to the Debian department; Update and Upgrade There is no "Debian department" -- this is a volunteer project. Help out! > thank you in

Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread tomas
Hi, Hans is it your mail setup adding that *SPAM* decoration to the subject? Just curious... cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-17 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:00:05PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/17/24 14:52, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > > You're welcome. > > > > Please extend your thanks to Tomas, who is the one who tracked down the > > links that led to the bug report where I found the a

Re: opinion - apt-mirror or aptly

2024-04-17 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:49:29AM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i intend to create a local mirror for debian armhf > it seems apt-mirror and aptly are the applications most used > is one easier, more reliable, ... Has it to be a mirror, or would a cache do? I'm asking, because a cache

Re: is security.debian.org broken

2024-04-17 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:26:57AM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > have a look at > > https://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/bookworm-security/updates/ > > is it broken or just me Works here, too. Folks -- "broken" is a very short problem description. A bit more detail is

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 10:39:42AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-04-16 at 10:28, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 02:21:27PM -, Curt wrote: > > > >> Have you tried *closing* one of the two windows, *quitting* the > >> remaining one, and then restarting your bird? >

Yet another lick at Gmail and Google [was: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick]

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 01:39:34PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > It would've been clearer to have advised using another mail application, > period [...] > But no harm, no foul, and all is well. The only real mystery is how > Tomas resisted getting yet another lick in against Gmail an

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 09:05:29AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It has been known to happen that drivers implement workarounds for issues > > in the hardware itself, so that hardware bugs do not get tripped (or are > > tripped less often). > >  > > You make it sound like it's a rare

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 03:10:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > > Try running "thunderbird" from a terminal emulator and see what happens. > > > Stopped it. opened an xfce4 terminal and typed "thunderbird"enter, same old > same old, two gui's stacked on top of each other. This, at least,

Re: config files - newline possible?

2024-04-11 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 05:56:05PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > O know in shell scripts it is possible, to seperate a looong line of commands > into several short lines. > > But can this be done in config-files, too? > > I have a files with the syntax like this: > >

Re: NextGov: Linux XZ Utils Backdoor Was Long Con, Possibly With Support

2024-04-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 08:38:36PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > No, on the contrary. First of all, it is great that it has been > caught /before/ it could cause much harm [...] ...and of course kudos and thans to Andres Freund who spotted the thing! Cheers -- t signature.asc

Re: NextGov: Linux XZ Utils Backdoor Was Long Con, Possibly With Support

2024-04-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:27:03PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Hi, All.. > > This just hit my emails seconds ago. It's the most info that I've > personally read about the XZ backdoor exploit. I've been following > NextGov as a friendly, plain language resource about government: > > Linux

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-04-02 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 07:14:02AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2024 01 Apr 23:41 -0500, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This pattern has been seen in other contexts. Here [1] is a good review > > of "supply chain attacks" [...] > If you have Rust and Go in mind, Absolutely not. On the

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-04-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2024 01 Apr 14:01 -0500, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > Until now, who anticipated this? I'm sure there are security > researchers who have and it's likely that I'm not well-read enough on > this topic to have seen it discussed.

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-04-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 07:00:29PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 03:33:37AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > From what I have read, lzma is not a direct dependency of openssh. It > > turns out that it lzma is a dependency of libsystemd and that > > relationship

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:32:16PM +0200, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > Yes, closing Firefox does allow the stick to unmount cleanly, but I still > worry. To get an idea of what's going on, you can use "lsof": tomas@trotzki:~$ lsof /dev/sda1 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVI

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-03-28 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 03:23:48PM -0400, Lee wrote: [...] > I disagree. I don't think I'm qualified to make an adequate threat > analysis for a Debian system and yet Nobody is. The threat analysis for my virtual server "out there" is totally different (sshd, exim, http(s), git running on

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-03-28 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 12:22:57PM -0400, Lee wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 1:11 AM tomas wrote: [...] > > Security means first and foremost understanding the threat. > > Which I don't. Hence the request for 'secure by default' instructions > for Debian. Even better

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-03-28 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 06:16:32AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > "Secure by default" is an OpenBSD slogan BTW. Or they have > made it into one at least. But I'm not sure it is any more > secure than Debian - maybe. That depends. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: making Debian secure by default

2024-03-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 05:30:50PM -0400, Lee wrote: > I just saw this advisory > Escape sequence injection in util-linux wall (CVE-2024-28085) > https://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2024/Mar/35 > where they're talking about grabbing other users sudo password. Are there any users logged in

Re: filesystem info

2024-03-25 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:05:44AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: [...] > apt-cache search kernel filesystem doc > > Which brought up two docs appropriate for my own Trixie setup: linux-doc-6.5 > and linux-doc-6.6. The description for 6.6 is: > > Description-en: Linux kernel specific

Re: trying to parse lines from an awkwardly formatted HAR file ...

2024-03-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 12:53:24AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > out of a HAR file containing lots of obfuscating js cr@p and all kinds of > nonsense I was able to extract line looking like: It's not "js cr@p", It is called JSON. And there's a spec for it. [...] > I have tried substring

Re: Can't find informatin on passwdqc, pwqcheck or cracklib

2024-03-21 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 01:16:13PM +1100, n...@linearg.com wrote: > I'm wanting to upgrade my security, and like to use some of the suggested > tools. I've installed some of the tools, but can't find man pages on them. > Similarly there's no results to be had from googling. > I must be missing

Please, don't feed the trolls [was: ...]

2024-03-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 09:28:11PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:47:10PM +, jmax wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters: [...] > I'm not your brother or sister [...] This was an obvious troll [1]. Don't feed them or they'll come back Cheers [1]

Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:02:41AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Use one of the password generating programs such as pwgen to produce a > 12 character random password. Write it down. Actually, I use between pwgen -n 8 (user pw) and pwgen -n 16 (LUKS encryption). I memorize the most important of

Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 09:23:58AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > > Also, are you saying that you do not let users rotate their keys > > themselves; and if so, why on Earth not? > > Key continuity has turned out to be a better security property than > key rotation. It is wise to avoid

Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:03:16AM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 20 Mar 2024 15:46 +0800, from jeremy.ard...@gmail.com (jeremy ardley): > > Regarding certificates, I issue VPN certificates to be installed on each > > remote device. I don't use public key. > > What exactly is this

Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 02:01:44AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:32 AM wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 04:22:29AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > A 'safer' implementation will not even expose an ssh port. Instead there > > > will be a certificate based VPN

Re: Root password strength

2024-03-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 04:22:29AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > A 'safer' implementation will not even expose an ssh port. Instead there > will be a certificate based VPN where you first need a certificate to > connect and then you need a separate certificate to log in as root. A > further

Re: After installing no access to the installed system.

2024-03-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 02:35:59PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 18 Mar 2024 at 17:31:24 (+0100), Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 18.03.2024 um 16:17:55 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schweikle: > > > > > EFI. While not installing grub, no boot entry is created too. > > > > This is to be expected. > > > >

Re: After installing no access to the installed system.

2024-03-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 07:00:57PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 05:31:24PM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 18.03.2024 um 16:17:55 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schweikle: > > > It seems the installer fails silently at some point, after having > > > installed all packages.

Re: After installing no access to the installed system.

2024-03-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:44:32AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 03:24:14PM +0100, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > > Package: Debian installer > > Version: As on Debian live-CD/DVD for Debian 12.5 > > Severity: critical > > Note that you sent this email to the debian-user list,

Re: Bookworm Networking Issues

2024-03-17 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 04:54:27PM +, David wrote: > I am running Bookworm on a thin client and Network-Manger seems to be > the source of my problems. > > I have purged Network-Manager from this thin client, but I can't find > out how to get /etc/network/interface to run. I have added to 2

Re: shellcheck, bashism's and one liners.

2024-03-17 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 09:25:10AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Hi, [...] > Is there a one-liner way to make shellcheck happy on the count line > below (other than # shellcheck disable=SC2046)? > > args() { echo a b c d; } > count() { echo $#; } > count $(args) > > Obviously, any correct

Re: emacs 27.1 from Buster work on Bookworm?

2024-03-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 06:56:15PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > Can emacs 27.1 from Debian 11 Buster be installed on Debian 12 Bookworm? Hm. libc6 hasn't changed /that/ much and is known to handle ABI compatibility pretty well. I fear the other libs aren't as friendly. The package system will

Re: Debugging an USB array issue

2024-03-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 08:24:04PM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 06:54:38PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I may be stating the obvious, but have you made sure the USB hub > > is providing enough power to keep your disks happy? > > It's a 60W external power

Re: Debugging an USB array issue

2024-03-15 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 05:32:30PM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > on a Debian bullseye uptodate system [1], I experiment frequent (every > 3-4 hours on heavy load) disk disconnections from a md RAID10 array with > 4 drives connected to an USB 1M adapter [2]. > > Errors do not look

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-03-15 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 09:01:30AM -0700, Mike Castle wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 1:49 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > > We seem to be told that this must be done by those who will not be doing the > > work. > > Was that explicitly stated anywhere? Or is the lack of any type of > explicit

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

2024-03-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 08:31:16AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > So I purged ntpsec and re-installed chrony which I had done once before with > no luck but this time timedatectl was stopped and it worked! great :-) > Now, how do I assure timedatectl stays stopped on a reboot? [...] I'll

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

2024-03-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 09:36:56PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:33:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > no place in the ntpsec docs, nor the chrony docs > > does it show the ability to slam the current time into the SW clock on these > > arm systems at bootup's first

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

2024-03-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:06:15PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Look at the chronyd settime command and the chrony.conf makestep > directive. These are intended for your situation. This from man(8) ntpd: -g, --panicgate Allow the first adjustment to be Big. This option may appear an

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 01:53:49PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi Brad, > > I am using this spamfilter now for several years. It should be well trained > and > almost until about 4 months I never had any problems with it. > > But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to >

Re: electrons/the Internet doesn't like question authority niggahs?, oris it that I like to eat raw garlic, ...

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 07:44:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/4/24 11:42, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? > [...] > Your traceroute might be your isp throttling things as traceroute demands an > answer from every machine it passes thru

Re: electrons/the Internet [...]

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:37:28AM -0600, Albretch Mueller wrote: > spend days on end reading, coding and thinking about Math? Sorry. Try again. The whole post doesn't make much sense to me. I just tried this: curl -LI

Re: missing development package?

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 11:13:24AM +, thyme after thyme wrote: > On 2024-03-04 10:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > That's right: in your /etc/apt/sources.list (or in some file > > under .../sources.list.d/ at your preference) there must be > > a way for your installer to find the sources.

Re: missing development package?

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:38:18AM +, thyme after thyme wrote: > Hi t, > > thanks very much for the help. Responses below: > > On 2024-03-04 10:05, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > There's an automatic way to do this: install the build > > dependencies: > > > > sudo apt-get install build-dep

Re: missing development package?

2024-03-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 09:23:52AM +, thyme after thyme wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm not a developer, but I'm trying to build xfce4-screensaver and > suspect I may be missing a development package. > > I've sudo apt-get installed everything on this list: >

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-03-01 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 08:19:42AM +, Michael Grant wrote: > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > > And the main page > https://www.mailop.org/ Thanks abig bunch! -- tomás signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: {OT] Mailing lists etc for postmasters

2024-02-29 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 01:42:07AM +, Gareth Evans wrote: > I have somehow only just discovered that Gmail, Apple and Yahoo are > introducing, or have recently introduced, DMARC requirements for senders. > > See for exmaple >

Troll or not? [was: Serious problem with debian 12 bookworm]

2024-02-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 01:59:19PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 19:58:13 + (UTC) > Anastasia Broch wrote: > > > Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th gen with > > RTX 3050 and I'm figuring a serious issue using debian 12 on this PC, > > … > > > >

Reply to list vs. group reply [was: Inlclusive terminology...]

2024-02-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:35:33AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: [Adjusting the topic] > For keeping that promise would it be better to use "Reply-To-List". > > And in other cases is it also better to use "Reply-To-List". I know it is a hot topic here. Preferences vary by the sender, which I

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-25 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 06:30:35PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 2/25/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:14:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> The "problem" is asking the majority (10s of thousands of people) to > >> make efforts to help 1 or 2

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-24 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 06:05:26PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > May I interject a different perspective? > what brings greater freedom, asking that words be changed by many, that some > see, no matter how justified from their view as harmful? Or teaching those > people how to free themselves

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-24 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:14:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: [...] > The "problem" is asking the majority (10s of thousands of people) to > make efforts to help 1 or 2 heal in their journey's of pain and > healing. To make sure the "majority" stays majority for all so ever: white, male,

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-24 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 09:03:45AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > > It was a BLM thing, not sure if it matters the etymology of such > > > words. > > > > The etymology certainly *should* matter, insofar as that is the origin

Re: Support for AMD SOC digital microphone

2024-02-24 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 01:24:58PM +0100, Pavel Lunix wrote: > Hello, > I have Lenovo Thinkpad P14s Gen4 AMD and found the integrated microphone is > not working due to missing kernel module (+ the integraded dmic under the > same structure): > https://www.kernelconfig.io/config_snd_soc_amd_ps >

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-23 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:24:39AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 23.02.2024 schrieb Alain D D Williams : > > > It is "fixing" an issue for today's English speakers. Should we scour > > our systems looking for similar issues in other languages ? [...] Fifty years ago it was "normal" to beat

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-23 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:00:39AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 23.02.2024 schrieb : [...] > > Oh, goody. A culture warrior. > > I'm sure you have good reasons for changing the terms. Feel free to > provide some real arguments that have a benefit for the users. I'm not the one proposing

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

2024-02-23 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:33:08AM +0100, Mariusz Gronczewski wrote: > On 22.02.2024 11:19, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I know this is a loaded topic. I really don't want to discuss the > > political aspects of the "why", but just want to know the facts, i.e. > > how far this has

Re: Meeting with the Development Team

2024-02-22 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 08:40:32AM +, Ray Galt wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to reach out to the decision-maker in the IT environment within > your company. [...] Sometimes, satire is written by marketing departments. Or by some LLM run in reverse posing as such -- these days, you just

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