Fwd: test sent date details

2024-06-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 Forwarded Message Subject: test sent date details Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:56:41 +1000 From: Keith Bainbridge To: keithr...@gmail.com All the best Keith

Re: test sent date details

2024-06-18 Thread keithrbau
It has worked All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 18/6/24 17:56, Keith Bainbridge wrote: All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00

Re: info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

2024-06-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 11:22:17PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the > > documentation, it's in GNU info pages. So you would need to type > > the command "i

info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

2024-06-11 Thread Max Nikulin
On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the documentation, it's in GNU info pages. So you would need to type the command "info coreutils date" to get to it. And then you'd need to figure out the user interface of the &quo

Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Jeff Peng
thanks roberto. that's exactly what i am looking for. $ date +%a

Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:42AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > While I expect the output should be: > > $ date +%such_a_option > Tuesday > > or > $ date +%such_a_option > Tue > > does date command has this option? You can run the command "man date" to rea

Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread rtnetz...@windstream.net
All the format codes are documented in the man page for date. in particular: +%a gives a short form, such as Mon +%A gives full name, e.g. Monday +%^a and +%^A as above, but all capital letters. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Peng" To: "debian-user" > Wh

Re: date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 07:19:42AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > Hello, > > I run the folllowing command, > > $ date +%w > 2 > > > While I expect the output should be: > > $ date +%such_a_option > Tuesday > > or > $ date +%such_a_option > Tue >

date for week

2024-06-10 Thread Jeff Peng
Hello, I run the folllowing command, $ date +%w 2 While I expect the output should be: $ date +%such_a_option Tuesday or $ date +%such_a_option Tue does date command has this option? Thanks.

Yet another lick at Gmail and Google [was: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick]

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 01:39:34PM -, Curt wrote: [...] > It would've been clearer to have advised using another mail application, > period [...] > But no harm, no foul, and all is well. The only real mystery is how > Tomas resisted getting yet another lick in against Gmail and Google, et >

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, John Crawley wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 Apr 2024 at 18:52:33 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> > > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > >> > that supports IMAP.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2024 01:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/04/2024 03:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: >> > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application >> > that supports IMAP. >> > >> >> Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. > >

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > > that supports IMAP. > > > > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/03/2024 22:35, David Wright wrote: On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 09:42:37 (+0300), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing files off my USB stick. I've no answer for that, particularly in view of Max's reply to my previous post. I've always copied

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I filed bug report 1068122. I feel fine, despite my concern over my data. Heartfelt thanks for all the advice!

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 09:42:37 (+0300), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > I'm mounting and unmounting through the stick icon's menu on Xfce desktop. > Maybe a fancy file chooser dialogue stays around analyzing the directory, > as you suspect? But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing >

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I'm mounting and unmounting through the stick icon's menu on Xfce desktop. Maybe a fancy file chooser dialogue stays around analyzing the directory, as you suspect? But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing files off my USB stick.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/03/2024 11:46, David Wright wrote: Double-clicking on the directory mounts it and displays the files in it. Opening a text file displays it. At least for a small file, FF does not hold the file open, so I can immediately unmount the stick. Gmail may do something more fancy -

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Sat 30 Mar 2024 at 21:06:27 (+0200), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > I was able to replicate this, by trying to send gmail to myself in Firefox, > attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. Did you mount the stick yourself as a user (ie there's an fstab entry for it), or as root, or does an

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread David Christensen
On 3/30/24 08:17, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about my stick security. Thanks. Linux knows what files are open on each file system. If you try to unmount

Re: Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I'd just like to add that I have seen the problem despite reinstalls with Debian stable minor versions. Thanks!

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:32:16PM +0200, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > Yes, closing Firefox does allow the stick to unmount cleanly, but I still > worry. To get an idea of what's going on, you can use "lsof": tomas@trotzki:~$ lsof /dev/sda1 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I can replicate this, by trying to send Gmail to myself in Firefox, attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. After the attachment supposedly was uploaded, I tried to unmount the stick, but it blocked. "lsof | grep -i KINGSTON" then shows a total of 129 lines from "x-www-browser". This lasted for

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I was able to replicate this, by trying to send gmail to myself in Firefox, attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. After the attachment supposedly was uploaded, I tried to unmount the stick, but it blocks. "lsof | grep -i KINGSTON" then shows a total of 129 lines from "x-www-browser". This

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:17:52 +0200 Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting > a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry > about my stick security. Thanks. It sounds like Firefox has a file open on the stick. To

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 1:19 PM gene heskett wrote: > > On 3/30/24 11:36, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > > What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a > > stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about > > my stick security. Thanks. > > Since

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
Yes, closing Firefox does allow the stick to unmount cleanly, but I still worry.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread gene heskett
On 3/30/24 11:36, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox?  I worry about my stick security.  Thanks. Since this is normally a root operation, I'm confused. Likely what it means

Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about my stick security. Thanks.

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 21:50, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/01/2024 20:24, didar wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/01/2024 20:24, didar wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. You can

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
Darac Marjal wrote: > >The script works like this: if the root device is specified on the >kernel command line AND the word "fixrtc" is  specified, then get the >time that the root file system was last mounted. The script then uses >"date" to set the cl

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 12:56 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [...] > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: Could not add source 192.168.71.3 > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: No suitable source for initstepslew > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: Could not add source 192.168.71.3 > Dec

SOLVED:Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 13:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:56:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] # Stop bad estimates upsetting machine clock. maxupdateskew 10.0 initstepslew 30 192.168.71.3 # This directive enables kernel synchronisation (every 11 minutes) of the # real-time

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Darac Marjal
uot;fixrtc" is  specified, then get the time that the root file system was last mounted. The script then uses "date" to set the clock to that date stamp. I assume that the idea is that, rather than having the clock start at 1970, it's better to start it at, say, yesterday. You've

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:56:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > # Stop bad estimates upsetting machine clock. > maxupdateskew 10.0 > initstepslew 30 192.168.71.3 > # This directive enables kernel synchronisation (every 11 minutes) of the > # real-time clock. Note that it can’t be used

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
c 30 03:15:44 bpi51e5p systemd[1]: Failed to start chrony, an NTP client/server. What output did you get? The time as reported by "date": gene@bpi51e5p:~$ date Sat Dec 30 05:30:58 AM EST 2023 gene@bpi51e5p:~$ gene@coyote:~$ date Wed Jan 31 12:38:16 EST 2024 gene@coyote:~$ What

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 10:25:40AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/31/24 08:53, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > > > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > > > > initstepslew > > > > man

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 08:53, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf deprecated in favor of makestep, and did not work, John. Thanks, John Cheers, Gene

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Max Nikulin wrote: > I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of > box setup is not ready to such environment and its solution is not > maxstep. That's what makestep (initstepslew now being deprecated) is for. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 07:13, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/01/2024 17:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think you want "maxstep". It's in the man page chrony.conf(5). But if the time is "months off" perhaps you've got another problem to fix first? Well, I do have other probs with that machine, mostly with the

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 07:53:01AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > > initstepslew > > man chrony.conf Debian 12 has chrony 4.3, and in *that* version

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread didar
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the > current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. > Now it appears to conflict with the

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/01/2024 17:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think you want "maxstep". It's in the man page chrony.conf(5). But if the time is "months off" perhaps you've got another problem to fix first? I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of box setup is not ready to

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the > current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. > Now it appears to conflict with the

chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. Now it appears to conflict with the other client/servers Thanks Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are

date can't parse its own output was: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 08:17:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 02:07:14PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I'm still amazed the OP hasn't understood that "date" can output > > custom formats -- and that it's not always possible to parse back

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread tomas
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 01:51:41PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > Originally it did only put out text in an xterm, but then i shamelessly > exploited code from the exploitation chain xpppload <- xisdnload <- xload > to give it a histogram in ain additional separate window. Now this one

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread tomas
rently have a laptop, so the > battery-status part wouldn't currently apply, but this sounds like > something I might like to try when that changes; any chance of sharing > the specific details? Glad to oblige. The date part is the smallest, dow

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-10-22 at 07:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I better not tell. My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm > which also shows my battery status. Ooo, that sounds interesting. I don't currently have a laptop, so the battery-status part wouldn't currently apply, but this sounds like

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm which > also shows my battery status. My digital clock with date display is a C program which mainly watches the network traffic. It even has an own date format ("A0" = 2000, now is "C3"

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread tomas
10 years ago. I came back to it some time last century, after a very instructive travel which encompassed Gnome (Metacity), Xfce, Awesome and other exotica (olwm, GWM...) > My clock is FvwmXclock. It's an analog-style 12 hours without date > display. I better not tell. My clock is a... shel

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
t century. It's configured by a ~/.fvwm2rc which is at least 20 years old with minor changes to adapt to changed paths and to avoid some unwanted behavior from 10 years ago. My clock is FvwmXclock. It's an analog-style 12 hours without date display. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 10:13:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Charlie wrote: > > The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not > > terrible, > > However after a short period 100% of one of the CPU cores is used, > > noisy

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Charlie wrote: > The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not > terrible, > However after a short period 100% of one of the CPU cores is used, > noisy running, and top -c shows this as the user: > /usr/libexe/fvwm2/2.7.0/FvwmScript 17 4 none 0 8 Fvwm

Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

2023-10-22 Thread Charlie
Hello All, Have a a Dell Vostro laptop: Bookworm up to date and upgraded operating system to that state. Using FVWM window manager. The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not terrible, However after a short period 100% of one

Re : Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-07 Thread benoit
Le lundi 1 mai 2023 à 15:44, ajh-valmer a écrit : > Si c'est un bug, il sera corrigé à un moment. > C'est pourquoi j'attends toujours quelques semaines > avant de migrer, avec cette précaution de l'installer sur > une autre partition pour le tester. Je ne crois pas que c'est un bug dans la

Re: Re : date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-06 Thread Ro Bou
Merci pour l'info! J'en prend bonne note pour le prochain essai. Roger Le 2023-05-01 à 11 h 58, steve a écrit : Le 01-05-2023, à 11:26:33 -0400, Ro Bou a écrit : Pour ce problème, il faut cette entrée GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false dans /etc/default/grub puis lancer, en root update-grub2

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-05 Thread didier gaumet
Le 05/05/2023 à 14:00, Erwann Le Bras a écrit : [...] * si c'est le système qui démarre X et ensuite tu t'identifies sur la mire X11, c'est forcément root le propriétaire. [...] En fait ton exemple illustre le fait que lightdm, bien que pas si vieux, a une gestion à l'ancienne et ne

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-05 Thread Erwann Le Bras
bonjour Pour moi, ça dépend : * si tu t'identifie sur la console texte pour lancer l'interface graphique là oui, elle est lancée avec ton ID * si c'est le système qui démarre X et ensuite tu t'identifies sur la mire X11, c'est forcément root le propriétaire. Chez moi j'ai : root   

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-04 Thread didier gaumet
Le 04/05/2023 à 09:04, Michel Verdier a écrit : Ça dépend comment tu lance X. Xorg est toujours lancé en root, c'est normal pour éviter les failles de sécurité. J'ai eu ce problème sur Bullseye. Je lance Xorg via startx. J'ai manipé pour que /tmp/serverauth... soit créé avec l'uid de mon user.

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-04 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 1 mai 2023 benoit a écrit : > J'ai essayé 2x de passer en Bookworm, mais après la mise à jour, X ne veut > plus se lancer, car il n'a pas le droit d'écrire dans /tmp:LOCKMACHIN BIDULE > (G pas noté le message d'erreur) > > Seul root peut lancer x Ça dépend comment tu lance X. Xorg est

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-03 Thread Haricophile
Le Mon, 01 May 2023 12:34:35 +, benoit a écrit : > J'ai essayé 2x de passer en Bookworm, mais après la mise à jour, X ne > veut plus se lancer, car il n'a pas le droit d'écrire dans > /tmp:LOCKMACHIN BIDULE (G pas noté le message d'erreur) > > Seul root peut lancer x > > Du coup j'ai

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-01 Thread didier gaumet
Le lundi 01 mai 2023 à 12:34 +, benoit a écrit : > > J'ai essayé 2x de passer en Bookworm, mais après la mise à jour, X ne > veut plus se lancer, car il n'a pas le droit d'écrire dans > /tmp:LOCKMACHIN BIDULE (G pas noté le message d'erreur) > > Seul root peut lancer x > > Du coup j'ai

Re: Re : date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-01 Thread steve
Le 01-05-2023, à 11:26:33 -0400, Ro Bou a écrit : Bonjour! J'ai aussi fait l'essai de bookworm. Résultat pas concluant dans mon cas. Je suis en multi boot avec le windows 10  pré-installé, une debian-facile et un disque usb externe  de 4 tb pour des sauvegardes. Au redémarrage de

Re: Re : date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-01 Thread Ro Bou
vendredi 28 avril 2023 à 10:18, didier gaumet a écrit : date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023. le message annoçant la nouvelle sur la liste Devel: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg7.html

Re: date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-01 Thread ajh-valmer
On Monday 01 May 2023 14:34:35 benoit wrote: > J'ai essayé 2x de passer en Bookworm, mais après la mise à jour, > X ne veut plus se lancer, car il n'a pas le droit d'écrire > dans /tmp:LOCKMACHIN BIDULE (G pas noté le message d'erreur) > Seul root peut lancer x > Du coup j'ai restauré mon

Re : date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-05-01 Thread benoit
Bookworm -- Benoît Envoyé avec la messagerie sécurisée Proton Mail. --- Original Message --- Le vendredi 28 avril 2023 à 10:18, didier gaumet a écrit : > date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023. > > le message annoçant la nouvelle sur la liste Devel

date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023

2023-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
date de sortie prévisionnelle de Debian 12 Bookworm: le 10 juin 2023. le message annoçant la nouvelle sur la liste Devel: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg7.html

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2023 10:39, Albretch Mueller wrote: You can't physically alter a DVD[+|-]R once it is burned ... Do you customize images to change preferences, e.g. to make OS aware that hardware clock is set to local time? If you do not than OS almost certainly assumes that system time is in

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2023 10:39, Albretch Mueller wrote: On 3/25/23, Max Nikulin wrote: - Both Debian and Windows installed on the hard drive ... Thank you for the steps and the logical elucidations that may certainly help someone else, but I can't do that "because" all electronic devices which I use

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2023-03-24 23:20 (UTC-0500): > BTW I've only really trusted reading or setting the RTC by means of > the CMOS screens, and treat it as a one-time only process (upon > acquisition), assuming the coin-cell battery never needs replacing. Lucky you. I can only dream of going

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Mar 2023 at 19:10:49 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > That works great for the Live OS, but not for the fixed-disk OS. If > > the Live OS sets the HW clock to local upon shutdown, but the fixed-disk > > OS expects the HW clock to be UTC, then the fixed-disk OS is wrong > > every time

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread David Wright
, it is 5 hours ahead. > I used logs which names a time a la: > > _DT=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) > _BN=$(basename "${_SDIR}") > _LOG_FL="${_BN}_${_DT}.log" > ... > If anything, timing is one of the aspects of reality which should be > coordinated. Hence t

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 3/25/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > - Both Debian and Windows installed on the hard drive ... Thank you for the steps and the logical elucidations that may certainly help someone else, but I can't do that "because" all electronic devices which I use are being kept. You can't physically alter a

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2023 07:07, Albretch Mueller wrote: I am using right now a DELL laptop which had Windows 11 installed but I expect that the following should work smoothly enough: - Hardware clock is in UTC - Both Debian and Windows installed on the hard drive are configured to your local time zone

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
I am using right now a DELL laptop which had Windows 11 installed but started to give me sh!t which I totally ignored and started to use my good old friend Debian in order to "keep moving". By the way, after a while as if for a magical reason the hw time changed and now it is showing to me the

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That works great for the Live OS, but not for the fixed-disk OS. If > the Live OS sets the HW clock to local upon shutdown, but the fixed-disk > OS expects the HW clock to be UTC, then the fixed-disk OS is wrong > every time it boots after the Live OS. AFAIK the Linux kernel is pretty careful

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 05:51:30PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If your policy choice ends up being "set HW clock to local", then you > > also have to make sure the correct time zone is set on each operating > > system, each time it boots. I have no idea how one does that on Debian > > Live,

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If your policy choice ends up being "set HW clock to local", then you > also have to make sure the correct time zone is set on each operating > system, each time it boots. I have no idea how one does that on Debian > Live, since I've never used Debian Live. So, I can hope for your sake > that

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 05:13:31PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I should have pointed out that I always go into exposed mode (use the > Internet) with a live DVD. My laptop was always 6 hours ahead and now > that they changed to summer time, it is 5 hours ahead. So, you have at least two

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
I should have pointed out that I always go into exposed mode (use the Internet) with a live DVD. My laptop was always 6 hours ahead and now that they changed to summer time, it is 5 hours ahead. I used logs which names a time a la: _DT=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) _BN=$(basename "${_S

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 09:41:40PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am using this (yes, visually cr@ppy ;-)) code snippet to set back > the time 5 hours. hwclock tells me it worked fine but the terminal > windows opened before and after running hwclock still give me the > "old" time

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Mar 2023 at 21:41:40 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am using this (yes, visually cr@ppy ;-)) code snippet to set back > the time 5 hours. hwclock tells me it worked fine but the terminal > windows opened before and after running hwclock still give me the > "old" time setting?

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-23 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 3/23/23, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 3/23/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> I am using this (yes, visually cr@ppy ;-)) code snippet to set back >> the time 5 hours. hwclock tells me it worked fine but the terminal >> windows opened before and after running hwclock still give me the >> "old"

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-23 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
etting? > > _HRS_PM=-5 > > ### > # > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1092631/get-current-time-in-seconds-since-the-epoch-on-linux-bash > _DTS=$(date +%s) > echo "// __ \$_DTS: |${_DTS}|"; > _DTF=$(date --date @${_DTS}) > echo "// __ \$_DTF: |${_DTF}|"; &

Re: differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
want to change the system's time, then change the system's time, not the hardware clock. To change the system's time, use `date` (see `man date` for the format of its arguments). But changing the system's time is very rarely a good idea. If you want to change the time based on timezone issues, t

differences between hwclock <-> date due to time zone issues? ...

2023-03-23 Thread Albretch Mueller
et-current-time-in-seconds-since-the-epoch-on-linux-bash _DTS=$(date +%s) echo "// __ \$_DTS: |${_DTS}|"; _DTF=$(date --date @${_DTS}) echo "// __ \$_DTF: |${_DTF}|"; _NEW_DTS=$((_DTS+3600*_HRS_PM)) echo "// __ \$_NEW_DTS: |${_NEW_DTS}|"; # Convert the number

Re: Logcheck et format de date

2022-11-07 Thread Sébastien Dinot
Le 2022-11-07 17:22, Francois Mescam a écrit : Il y a une option de rsyslog qui joue la-dessus : # Use traditional timestamp format. # To enable high precision timestamps, comment out the following line. # $ActionFileDefaultTemplate RSYSLOG_TraditionalFileFormat Il me semble que récemment sa

Re: Logcheck et format de date

2022-11-07 Thread David BERCOT
(malgré les filtres "standards"). En fait, il semblerait que ceci soit lié au format de la date dans mes logs. Ainsi, ces derniers sont écrits sous la forme suivante : "2022-11-07T14:02:20.160314+01:00 mamachine event[4999]:" Or, les expressions régulières visant à filtrer

Re: Logcheck et format de date

2022-11-07 Thread Francois Mescam
ton problème. Francois Mescam Le 07/11/2022 à 15:32, David BERCOT a écrit : Bonjour, J'utilise Logcheck sur plusieurs systèmes et je me suis rendu compte que tous les logs remontaient (malgré les filtres "standards"). En fait, il semblerait que ceci soit lié au format de la date dans

Logcheck et format de date

2022-11-07 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour, J'utilise Logcheck sur plusieurs systèmes et je me suis rendu compte que tous les logs remontaient (malgré les filtres "standards"). En fait, il semblerait que ceci soit lié au format de la date dans mes logs. Ainsi, ces derniers sont écrits sous la forme suivante : "2

Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 05, 2022 at 05:12:40PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Nov 5, 2022, 15:30 by g...@wooledge.org: > > >> > > local10 wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Any ideas as to get the old syslog date format back? > >> > > > > What

[SOLVED] Re: Changes in the syslog date format?

2022-11-05 Thread local10
Nov 5, 2022, 14:53 by j...@k4vqc.com: > On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 11:34 +0100, local10 wrote: > >> Nov 5, 2022, 09:55 by scdbac...@gmx.net: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > local10 wrote: >> > >> > > Any ideas as to get the old syslo

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