Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:11:03 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > and, on this computer, as mentioned in a previous message, neither > Debian 7, nor Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, can get the external monitor going, as > neother seem to have an appropriate driver for the > AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > On the Acer E5-521-238Q, which does not have Ubuntu installed, I have, > for Debian 7, > > " > root@debian-Acer-E5-521:/# grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' > /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [25.144] (I

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > > > > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for > > System -> Settings -> Details -> Overview, it has > > > > " > &g

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for > System -> Settings -> Details -> Overview, it has > > " > Processor: Intel Core i&-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8 > Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-15 Thread Petter Adsen
he Intel > Haswell graphics controller (is/should the nVidia graphics thing, be > subordinate to / driven by the Intel Haswell graphics controller?), > part of which, is missing from Debian 7 (as installed and > configured)?. I am not exactly sure how you configure two GPUs from two differ

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
5) > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset > Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d5) > 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset > Family PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev d5) > 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] (rev a1) 07:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and >> not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. > > The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS > that is to be found at the following loca

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: > > so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and > not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS that is to be found at the following location: '/var/log/Xorg.0.log') in order

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/04/2015, Curt wrote: >> On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >>> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external mo

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Bret Busby wrote: both were running Debian 7, as the last operating system, before the hardware crashes. Aha! There it is at last! The Smoking Gun! Grassy Knoll, anyone? nb. http://www.google.com/search?q=grassy%20knoll -- These are not the droids you are looking for

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. >> >> The external monito

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an > AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. > > The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debian > 6,

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 09/04/2015, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> Bret Busby writes: >> > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI >> > Device 9852 >> >> Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. >> > > > " > # xrandr > xrandr:

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2015 10:22:23 Bret Busby wrote: >> Does Debian 7 work with external monitors? > > Yes. Though I have found that the external monitor needs to be there, and > on, > before I boot up, in order for it to be seen. (Acer

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2015 05:38:27 Bret Busby wrote: >> On my Debian 6 desktop >> computer, from the menu's, is >> System -> Preferences -> Monitors >> which has the option "Detect monitors". > > This is a matter of desktop environment choice, not distro version ch

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 09-04-15 om 12:02 schreef Bret Busby: > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI > Device 9852 I don't know this device. When it's a relative new device, and does not work well, I would try a newer Linux kernel from backports. Something like this: https://package

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Bret Busby writes: > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI > Device 9852 Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. I.E. saint@quigley:~ 12:22:39 [9] $xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2390 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS1 con

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/04/2015, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 09-04-15 om 11:22 schreef Bret Busby: >> Hello. >> >> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. >> >>

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 09-04-15 om 11:22 schreef Bret Busby: > Hello. > > On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an > AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. > > The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debia

Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debian 6, and with Ununtu 12.04 and with Ubuntu 14.04. On another Ac

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-04 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bret Busby a écrit : > > It would be on a UEFI/GPT system, so the primary partitions are redundant. > > With Linux, I generally have a / partition, a /swap partition, a /home > partition, and data partitions, with the swap partition being shared > between the Linux installations; as they are not

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): >> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader >> > such as GRUB, allow yet, f

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > > insta

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > installed on a system, and, to be selectable options for t

Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be installed on a system, and, to be selectable options for the bootloader? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-03-12 12:34:06 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > xscreensaver is not safe: > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403557 > > > > (concerning the "when the system has no external input for a > > defined period of time"). > > I read through that bug

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
ve, but I'm hoping it's not one where > they screwed things up, as mentioned on that wiki page. It's something > that's put me off buying a new laptop to replace this old thing. > The particular computer, is an Acer V3-772G - a whizzbang "laptop" with an i7 CPU, a

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): > >> Hi. > >> I got the same problem.. > >> I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 > >> and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Deb

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): >> Hi. >> I got the same problem.. >> I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 >> and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode > > Interesting. I played this through

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): > Hi. > I got the same problem.. > I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0  > and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode  Interesting. I played this through and at 506 seconds, I saw my first EFI scr

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I note that, after visiting the web page at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface > to which I have been referred, in another message posted in this > thread, I found > "while Insyde Software offers InsydeH2O, its own impl

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Curt a écrit : > On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> or, otherwise, interface with >>> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >>> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? >> Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects to be >> loaded from

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Mar 2015 at 03:10:58 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Does Debian Linux 7 support UEFI "Secure boot"? The relevant threads are somewhat fragmented but a search with "Plan of action for Secure Boot support" gives you all you want and more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay. > > In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the > malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty > UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of > any additional operating systems. > > And, I remember

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> The Setup Utility displays, in the Title Bar, "InsydeH20 Setup >> Utility Rev. 3.7". >> >> The solution, at this stage, appears to be to use the Setup, to >> change between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes, thence

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > xscreensaver is not safe: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403557 > > (concerning the "when the system has no external input for a > defined period of time"). I read through that bug log and I don't see why you say it is not safe as a general state

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Gajadur Dwijesh
Hi. I got the same problem.. I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:21 PM, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > The Setup Utility displays,

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > The Setup Utility displays, in the Title Bar, "InsydeH20 Setup > Utility Rev. 3.7". > > The solution, at this stage, appears to be to use the Setup, to > change between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes, thence to select which > operating system, I want

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-12, Bret Busby wrote: > > I can "dual boot", within the Legacy BIOS system; I can select either > Debian Linux 7, or, Ubuntu Linux 14.04, into which, to boot, from the > Legacy BIOS GRUB menu. Well, I meant boot the Windows 8. I should've said triple boot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
try to get a screensaver to > >> work, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to find > >> a screensaver that works on Debian 7, so I also, now, apparently, have > >> the kscreensaver (and thence, kde and kdm, and k*). > >> > >> But,

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >>> or, otherwise, interface with >>> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >>> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? >> >> Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects t

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
f extra stuff, to try to find >> a screensaver that works on Debian 7, so I also, now, apparently, have >> the kscreensaver (and thence, kde and kdm, and k*). >> >> But, in traversing through the menu's in the GNOME Classic interface, >> no screensaver is listed,

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-03-12 10:44:20 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > On 03/12/2015 10:33 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > > Does Debian 7 allow screensavers, that lock a screen, and require > > logging in, either when the system has no external input for a defined > > period of time, or, when a person

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
hat works on Debian 7, so I also, now, apparently, have > the kscreensaver (and thence, kde and kdm, and k*). > > But, in traversing through the menu's in the GNOME Classic interface, > no screensaver is listed, that can be found, and, in going to the > System Tools -&

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Petter Adsen
rk, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to > > find a screensaver that works on Debian 7, so I also, now, > > apparently, have the kscreensaver (and thence, kde and kdm, and k*). > > > > But, in traversing through the menu's in the GNOME Classic &

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> or, otherwise, interface with >> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? > > Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects to be > loaded from UEFI. > So he ca

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Linux-Fan
aver that works on Debian 7, so I also, now, apparently, have > the kscreensaver (and thence, kde and kdm, and k*). > > But, in traversing through the menu's in the GNOME Classic interface, > no screensaver is listed, that can be found, and, in going to the > System To

Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, are shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver to work, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to find a screensaver that works on Debian 7, so I also, now, apparently, have the

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
#x27;s a genuine problem, > especially at this time when the installer is having its problems > ironed out before its release. > A problem with this, is that the Debian 7 installation on the UEFI?GPT system, was done some months ago, and it was not until the last day or so (today and the la

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
e boot. You want to sort it out thereafter for dual boot reliably and you probably need Windows media. As outlined off list, that is available from Micrososft. On re-install, I'd install Windows first on half the disk using UEFI only, then install Debian. It should work. The Thinkpad I ha

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:40:06 PM UTC+5:30, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay. > > In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the > malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty > UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of > any additional o

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
ug report if there's a genuine problem, > especially at this time when the installer is having its problems > ironed out before its release. Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It was released some time ago!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
Okay. In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of any additional operating systems. And, I remember that the only way to amend that, to enable addit

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 11 March 2015 23:53:37 David Wright wrote: > A Debian version gets a codename long before it gets a number, even > before it exists (like buster), and that name never changes. It only > gets a number when it's released; in fact, it gets several: wheezy has > nine so far. Thanks, David

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 11 March 2015 20:59:30 Bret Busby wrote: > No, whilst for some of us find the numbers more meaningful and easier > to understand, than version names, the discussion in the other thread, > was, from my understanding, redefining the state names, rather than > the version names. > > So, y

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 16:34:15 David Wright wrote: > >> Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > >> > Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It was released some time ago!! > >&

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bret Busby a écrit : > > So, now, what happens when one operating system is installed via > UEFI/GPT, and two are installed as BIOS/MBR, in terms of wanting to be > able to select any one of the three operating systems, to boot? Nothing special. Depending on its settings and priorities, the firmw

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
T is a just a filesystem type. As far as Linux, GRUB and not-too-broken UEFI/BIOS firmwares are concerned, you can mix either boot scheme with either partition scheme. Don't know about Windows though. 2) Debian 7 "wheezy" amd64 can operate on any combination. Actually only the bootlo

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Ric Moore
art of the system. How did you express your wishes, and how did Debian contradict them? It would help to file a bug report if there's a genuine problem, especially at this time when the installer is having its problems ironed out before its release. Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It was release

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
> > > It would help to file a bug report if there's a genuine problem, >> > > especially at this time when the installer is having its problems >> > > ironed out before its release. >> > >> > Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It was released some

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
Debian contradict them? >> It would help to file a bug report if there's a genuine problem, >> especially at this time when the installer is having its problems >> ironed out before its release. >> > > A problem with this, is that the Debian 7 installation on the U

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
t; > the system, is not seen by the Linux part of the system. > > > > > > How did you express your wishes, and how did Debian contradict them? > > > It would help to file a bug report if there's a genuine problem, > > > especially at this time when the ins

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread David Wright
u express your wishes, and how did Debian contradict them? > > It would help to file a bug report if there's a genuine problem, > > especially at this time when the installer is having its problems > > ironed out before its release. > > Debian *7*, David. Wheezy. It wa

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the nasty > PC-BSD installation damage) kind of works, but, t

Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. As has previously been posted, I have a UEFI system, which came with MS Win8 installed. I then installed Debian 7 on the system, and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and, after the Debian 7 installation, the MS Win8 installation, was no longer accessible. However, I have found that the MS Win8

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/03/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: " > I don't know if it will be of any help at this point, but from what I > remember I believe the Ubuntu Server images has a rescue mode. > " That is the solution. I downloaded a Ubuntu 14.04 Server image, wrote it to a disk, and ran it in Rescue Mode, set th

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/03/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-03-09, Petter Adsen wrote: >> >> I don't know if it will be of any help at this point, but from what I >> remember I believe the Ubuntu Server images has a rescue mode. >> > > Seems there's a recovery mode from the grub menu you can boot into. > > https://wiki

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Mar 2015 at 15:37:15 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > The Debian 7.8.0 installation disk Rescue Mode has, as one of its > screens, the text > > "Enter a device you wish to use as your root filesystem > > Device to use as root filesystem: > /dev/sda (list of all such values for the system

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-09 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-09, Petter Adsen wrote: > > I don't know if it will be of any help at this point, but from what I > remember I believe the Ubuntu Server images has a rescue mode. > Seems there's a recovery mode from the grub menu you can boot into. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode -- To UNSU

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-09 Thread Petter Adsen
ist. > > The file apparently sits in the Ubuntu installation partition, and it > apparently shows which numbered partition is the Ubuntu installation > partition, and. which numbered partition is/was the Debian 7 > installation partition (the file manager of the Debian LiveCD, >

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-09 Thread Bret Busby
shows which numbered partition is the Ubuntu installation partition, and. which numbered partition is/was the Debian 7 installation partition (the file manager of the Debian LiveCD, apparently does not find the Debian installation partition). The Debian 7.8.0 installation disk Rescue Mode has, as one

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Mar 2015 at 14:32:19 -0600, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > > On Wed 04 Mar 2015 at 16:13:03 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 04 March 2015 16:03:28 Bret Busby wrote: > > > > Neither that screen, nor the one that showed the partitions, > > >

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > On Wed 04 Mar 2015 at 16:13:03 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 04 March 2015 16:03:28 Bret Busby wrote: > > > Neither that screen, nor the one that showed the partitions, > > > identified using the UUID's (which, to a user like me, in the context

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Mar 2015 at 16:13:03 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 04 March 2015 16:03:28 Bret Busby wrote: > > Neither that screen, nor the one that showed the partitions, > > identified using the UUID's (which, to a user like me, in the context > > of trying to restore the GRUB multi-OS sele

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/4/15, David Wright wrote: > > With hot plugging and so on, you really can't get away with /dev/... > any more unless you want to accidently reformat the wrong partition. > And not everyone sets LABELs, so there's not much choice. As long as > you don't clone a partition without changing the U

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 05 Mar 2015 at 00:03:28 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > No, it was not about labelling the swap partition. > > The original posting, was, I believe, seeking stepwise instructions > for recovery of the GRUB multi-OS selection bootloader, using the > Debian LiveCD. My recollection is that you go

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > Neither that screen, nor the one that showed the partitions, > identified using the UUID's (which, to a user like me, in the context > of trying to restore the GRUB multi-OS selection bootloader, are > meaningless, and, as useful as listing the subato

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 04 March 2015 16:03:28 Bret Busby wrote: > Neither that screen, nor the one that showed the partitions, > identified using the UUID's (which, to a user like me, in the context > of trying to restore the GRUB multi-OS selection bootloader, are > meaningless, and, as useful as listing th

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/03/2015, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20150228_1557-0500, Ric Moore wrote: >> On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: >> >On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: >> > >> >>On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: >> >>> >> >>>Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-03-03 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150228_1557-0500, Ric Moore wrote: > On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >>On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: > >>> > >>>Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching > >>>someone struggle. :) > >>> > >

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). I often trust the opinion of our" hive-mind" more than I

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching > >someone struggle. :) > > > >e2label(8). > > I often trust the opinion of our" hive-mind" more than I do a man > page. I hat

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created an

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to > > >the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are > > >created and it helps to make a n

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): > On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote: > >of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. > > Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric And AFAICT you have to label a swapfile with mkswap because, unless you avoid it, the

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:21:23 -0600 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian > > 7.8 installer iso "removable media" disk from the computer, that, > > like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, us

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > >I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to > >the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are > >created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely > >unmemorable. (I use LABELs

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 installer iso "removable media" disk from the computer, that, like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager, sh

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 > installer iso "removable media" disk from the computer, that, like > Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager, > show Properties for partitions, and, in o

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:40:05 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote: > > Have you tried configfile? > > configfile is a grub command that can be used to 'connect' to grub > eg > > 1. if your (working) debian's root is in /dev/sda5 >Then at the grub prompt try issuing the command >c

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:08:12 Ric Moore wrote: > On 02/25/2015 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote: > >> Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an > >> "Abort installation" option (at each screen, although, eve

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: > In trying to use a standard Debian installer iso, and booting into > rescue mode, I got toa screen "select partition into which to install > the root system", or words to that effect. Does it say "Rescue mode" in the corner? It should. Here is the official documentation for i

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/25/2015 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote: Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an "Abort installation" option (at each screen, although, even, a single instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebootin

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:40:05 AM UTC+5:30, Bret Busby wrote: > On 20/02/2015, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Bret Busby wrote: > >> The Debian 7.60 LXDE LiveCD does not have an option to boot into rescue > >> mode. > > > > You could always download the standard debian-installer and use that >

Re: correctio - Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:44:35 Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/02/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:21:42 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:10:24 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > Because that paper clip hole cannot be found on the face of the > >> > bla

Re: correctio - Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/02/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:21:42 Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:10:24 Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Because that paper clip hole cannot be found on the face of the >> > blackfaced dvd drive when the tower is out of the direct light under >

correctio - Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:21:42 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:10:24 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Because that paper clip hole cannot be found on the face of the > > blackfaced dvd drive when the tower is out of the direct light under the > > next table over and invisible ev

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:10:24 Gene Heskett wrote: > Because that paper clip hole cannot be found on the face of the blackfaced > dvd drive when the tower is out of the direct light under the next table > over and invisible even with 300 equ watts of ccfl lighting on the ceiling > turned on

Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:18:20 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote: > > Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an > > "Abort installation" option (at each screen, although, even, a single > > instantiation, on the primary m

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