not be experienced with Linux.
I think nobody argued that Ubuntu is most of the times better for
newcomers.
That is not a criticism of Debian or a request for change. It is just
information that may be useful for someone deciding between the two
distributions if ease of installation is a priority
Doofus wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
chris roddy wrote:
so, just switch to mepis and unsubscribe from debian-user already. your
show has gotten tiresome.
Might I suggest a filter? Or maybe just pressing delete? I find it
mildly ironic that people who flock to a distribution
On Monday 24 April 2006 09:27, Steve Lamb wrote:
I find it
mildly ironic that people who flock to a distribution supposedly for it's
social contract are some of the most anti-social one can run across.
I think Chris could just as easily say the same about you.
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Kent West wrote:
I believe you misunderstand Joey's post. He's not asking for any help.
He's just pointing out to Steve Lamb that Steve has ignored his previous
post, which follows this timeline (as I recall it).
I haven't ignored it. I am just not prone to me too posts. If I agree
with
Joey Hess wrote:
Er, my point is that whinging about Debian's policy not allowing it to
support installing to hardware that needs non-free drivers is pointless
when there are examples of hardware that needs non-free drivers which
Debian has been made to install to just fine. Most of this
Steve Lamb wrote:
No. I am not advocating that Debian do anything legal. But there is a
Of course I meant illegal here, not legal. Oh for the ability to stop
sending upon seeing errors like this a split second after hitting send. :)
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Christopher Nelson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't quote it.
I was referring to my only other post to this thread, namely
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Okay,
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:11:06PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
No. I am not advocating that Debian do anything legal. But there is a
Of course I meant illegal here, not legal. Oh for the ability to stop
sending upon seeing errors like this a split second after
Hi there.
On 04/20/06 17:21, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
If all the Ubuntu patches make into Debian then that would be a
huge boost for Debian!
Well, this seems to be a point where there must be some work left to do: not all
patches are being feed back to Debian (or upstream, for that matter).
On 04/21/06 19:58, Steve Lamb wrote:
And, of course, why there's UBUNTU and KUBUNTU. Waiting for XUBUNTU
myself. ;)
Indeed. I'm on the same boat here...
After using pure ubuntu on an old laptop of mine I wouldn't expect it to run
s poorly.
With all the talk about Gnome getting
On 2006-04-23, Rogério Brito penned:
He translated a helluva strings and, still, after talking with the
responsible people on IRC (to get the work of this student
integrated soon), I asked if they were willing to feed it back to
Debian or upstream and the response I got wasn't that human or
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Here's what I don't understand: If you like what other distributions
do better, why are you so busy trying to convince debian to change?
Why not just switch to one of the several distros you've mentioned?
Several? I've mentioned one. Why? Because at the core
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Who are these most people, and why should it matter to the developers
what most people want when they're not paying customers?
Go through the archives of this list and read how many times people cite
Apt as the reason they use and stick with Debian. The social
of
pride and actually attempt to address t he userbase every once
and a while.
Here's what I don't understand: If you like what other distributions
do better, why are you so busy trying to convince debian to change?
Why not just switch to one of the several distros you've mentioned
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 10:13:34PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
snip
I believe you misunderstand Joey's post. He's not asking for any help.
He's just pointing out to Steve Lamb that Steve has ignored his previous
post, which follows this timeline (as I recall it).
snip
Thank you Kent and
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:28:43AM +0100, Doofus wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't quote it.
I was referring to my only
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 10:52:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
Did you buy it knowing you were going to use it under linux? If so,
it's you problem. If not, the answer's simple--don't give them any more
money and tell us, so we don't give them money until they
Hal Vaughan wrote:
From my observation, whenever something like this comes up on this list,
there are those who listen and are willing to pay attention to
constructive criticism and others who can't and keep saying things like
the above comment or developers that can't accept criticism and
On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:47, Joey Hess wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
From my observation, whenever something like this comes up on this
list, there are those who listen and are willing to pay attention
to constructive criticism and others who can't and keep saying
things like the above
On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:23, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Who are these most people, and why should it matter to the
developers what most people want when they're not paying
customers?
Go through the archives of this list and read how many times
people cite Apt as the
Hal Vaughan wrote:
I do know this: after the one bug report I filed recently and the lack
of dialog and negative response I got from a developer, I'll be rather
unlikely to ever file bug reports again. It's a different situation,
but the same frustration: This is the way it is, and if you
On 2006-04-23, Hal Vaughan penned:
Here's what I don't understand: If you like what other distributions
do better, why are you so busy trying to convince debian to change?
Why not just switch to one of the several distros you've mentioned?
This may not be a logical fallacy
On 2006-04-23, Kevin Mark penned:
[some snippage]
In this context, free software user can never buy the software from
a company because their is no company and their is no legal monetary
contact between Debian and its developers and thus no one can make
the free software developers do
think, as Gnome-centric as Ubuntu has been in the past,
nor does Debian's defaulting to Gnome imply that other environments
won't work just as well under Debian. Is the same not true for Ubuntu?
If not, that would seem to be a fairly significant difference between
the two distributions (just
to someone pointing out the
disadvantages of those goals when considering the relative merits of two
distributions.
There is also some confusion in that some people have been talking about
software/firmware that is not excluded because it is covered by a
licence that would make it illegal to do so
On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:14, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
I don't understand why the idea of spending money to get an open
source solution seems, apparently, unreasonable to you. I'm grateful
for all of the free (as in beer) open source software I'm able to use.
But as a developer, I'd get
Michael M. wrote:
Well, this is a pretty OT question for a Debian mailing list, but does
Ubuntu not work as well with an alternate DE or WM as Debian does?
...
Of course it does. I've used Kubuntu with icewm.
Jeff
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software. Or perhaps we can find a way to make it easier for people to
avoid buying hardware that relies on license restricted software in the
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On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:14, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
I don't understand why the idea of spending money to get an open
source solution seems, apparently, unreasonable to you. I'm grateful
for all of the free (as in beer)
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:14:27PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2006-04-23, Kevin Mark penned:
[some snippage]
In this context, free software user can never buy the software from
a company because their is no company and their is no legal monetary
contact between Debian and its
Kamaraju Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 21 April 2006 09:53, Chris Lale wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop
Ubuntu wins over debian any moment.
I don't follow this. Install just one package (KDE or Gnome) and you
On Saturday 22 April 2006 09:50, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 21 April 2006 09:53, Chris Lale wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop
Ubuntu wins over debian any moment.
I don't
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:55:15AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Digby Tarvin wrote:
My personal experience has been that it us much easier and faster to get
a workable system installed using Ubuntu, but Debian is the more versatile
once you have spent the time getting it setup
On 2006-04-21, Steve Lamb penned:
Because Debian sucks just as much. What wins people over? It
certai nly isn't Oh, well, that can work if you do this and
this and this... Know what most do Ok, fine, hi Bill, here's
another $300 for the pro edition this 3 years. See you
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Well, debian is pretty obvious about its purpose. It's a link right
from the front page. Maybe people should be choosing other distros if
they don't like bullet item number one of the social contract. Debian
without the social contract would be just another distro.
On Saturday 22 April 2006 14:14, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Well, debian is pretty obvious about its purpose. It's a link right
from the front page. Maybe people should be choosing other distros if
they don't like bullet item number one of the social contract. Debian
On Saturday 22 April 2006 11:14, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Well, debian is pretty obvious about its purpose. It's a link right
from the front page. Maybe people should be choosing other distros if
they don't like bullet item number one of the social contract. Debian
Paul Johnson wrote:
There's nothing stopping you from installing nonfree software on your system.
You just probably won't be able to apt-get it. Case in point: You can get
games for Linux at WalMart for around $20 per title.
Sure there is. We're talking about the install here.
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 11:14 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
[snip]
I don't even understand this paragraph.
1% = total Linux install.
I'd say 5%, but that's just a quibble.
Subset of 1% = Debian's cut of the above.
More like 20%.
IE, if Debian users have
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 01:04:09PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
There's nothing stopping you from installing nonfree software on your
system.
You just probably won't be able to apt-get it. Case in point: You can get
games for Linux at WalMart for around $20 per
On Saturday 22 April 2006 13:04, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
There's nothing stopping you from installing nonfree software on your
system. You just probably won't be able to apt-get it. Case in point:
You can get games for Linux at WalMart for around $20 per title.
Sure
Paul Johnson wrote:
First, there isn't an Ethernet card Linux can't find these days, so that's
kind of an empty argument.
Bull, Paul. Want me to mail you the one that's useless for me since it
wasn't detected and the documentation to get it going was beyond confusing?
It's best use right
Congrats on ignoring my message to this thread and contining with
semi-uselesss discussions on issues that were addressed in it, rather
than doing anything useful or interesting..
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Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
On Saturday 22 April 2006 14:14, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
Well, debian is pretty obvious about its purpose. It's a link right
from the front page. Maybe people should be choosing other distros if
they don't like bullet item number one
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 01:34:51PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 22 April 2006 13:04, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
There's nothing stopping you from installing nonfree software on your
system. You just probably won't be able to apt-get it. Case in point:
You can get
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 02:30:34PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
First, there isn't an Ethernet card Linux can't find these days, so that's
kind of an empty argument.
Bull, Paul. Want me to mail you the one that's useless for me since it
wasn't detected and the
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 06:13:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Congrats on ignoring my message to this thread and contining with
semi-uselesss discussions on issues that were addressed in it, rather
than doing anything useful or interesting..
If you didn't get an answer to a question, care to
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't quote it.
I was referring to my only other post to this thread, namely
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't quote it.
I was referring to my only other post to this thread, namely
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Okay, after some searching I found it (at:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't quote it.
I was referring to my only other post to this thread, namely
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Christopher Nelson wrote:
Okay, after some searching I found it (at:
http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20060421.170836.4a9c52cc.en.html
for the interested) and I'm afraid I cannot comment too much on it. I
also don't know how much useful response you would get here, even if the
post
On 2006-04-23, Christopher Nelson penned:
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
I have no idea what post you're talking about since you didn't
quote it.
I was referring to my only other post to this thread, namely
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Okay,
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 22:13 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 07:31:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Christopher Nelson wrote:
Major snips
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Here's what I don't understand: If you like what other distributions
do better, why are you so busy trying to convince debian to change?
Why not just switch to one of the several distros you've mentioned?
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On 2006-04-22, Steve Lamb penned:
Funny, the #1 point for most people is apt, not the social
contract. #1 for *you* maybe.
Who are these most people, and why should it matter to the developers
what most people want when they're not paying customers?
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 10:08:12PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2006-04-22, Steve Lamb penned:
Funny, the #1 point for most people is apt, not the social
contract. #1 for *you* maybe.
Who are these most people, and why should it matter to the developers
what most people
Christopher Nelson wrote:
Did you buy it knowing you were going to use it under linux? If so,
it's you problem. If not, the answer's simple--don't give them any more
money and tell us, so we don't give them money until they rectify the
situation.
I bought it based on recommendations *on
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions.
Maybe the Linux Distribution Chooser can help:
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?firsttime=true .
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Digby Tarvin wrote:
My personal experience has been that it us much easier and faster to get
a workable system installed using Ubuntu, but Debian is the more versatile
once you have spent the time getting it setup correctly.
That has not been my experience at all. I can get a workable
Steve Lamb wrote:
I agree. I'm all for openness and freedom, don't get me wrong. But I
hardly see how openness and freedom that forces people into a certain position
is either open or free. It's just another close position. If it is our
machine then where's the fault in us doing what
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 09:01 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
I agree. I'm all for openness and freedom, don't get me wrong. But I
hardly see how openness and freedom that forces people into a certain
position
is either open or free. It's just another close
Fernando Augusto Bender wrote:
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 09:01 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
I agree. I'm all for openness and freedom, don't get me wrong. But I
hardly see how openness and freedom that forces people into a certain
position
is either open or free. It's
Andrew Schulman wrote:
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions.
Maybe the Linux Distribution Chooser can help:
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?firsttime=true .
Ha! This put Debian 4th on my list - use with caution.
Chris
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop
Ubuntu wins over debian any moment.
I don't follow this. Install just one package (KDE or Gnome) and you
have an instant, fully functional desktop.
Chris.
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Steve Lamb wrote:
Digby Tarvin wrote:
Consequently I think Debian's more restrictive policy on hardware support
during and after installation is a disadvantage. By all means give preference
to free and open software where there are alternatives, but the time to worry
about the open source
Steve Lamb wrote:
Digby Tarvin wrote:
Consequently I think Debian's more restrictive policy on hardware support
during and after installation is a disadvantage. By all means give
preference
to free and open software where there are alternatives, but the time to
worry
about the open
Chris Lale wrote:
Andrew Schulman wrote:
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions.
Maybe the Linux Distribution Chooser can help:
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?firsttime=true .
Ha! This put Debian 4th on my list - use
Chris Lale wrote:
Ha! This put Debian 4th on my list - use with caution.
On the other hand it is how I found about Mepis. :D
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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
What if the not-so-open alternative is not redistributable without some
sort of licensing agreement. Then the Debian project can strike an
agrement with the developers, but then you would not be allowed to make
copies and give them to your friends.
I'd be fine
On Friday 21 April 2006 09:53, Chris Lale wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop
Ubuntu wins over debian any moment.
I don't follow this. Install just one package (KDE or Gnome) and you
have an instant, fully functional desktop.
The
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
The Ubuntu guys felt that it would be cool to install GNOME without bothering
the user. Both have different goals and are targetted to different users. Both
decisions are good. It is an issue with defaults.
And, of course, why there's UBUNTU and KUBUNTU. Waiting
On Friday 21 April 2006 14:03, Steve Lamb wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
What if the not-so-open alternative is not redistributable without some
sort of licensing agreement. Then the Debian project can strike an
agrement with the developers, but then you would not be allowed to make
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 15:58 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
And, of course, why there's UBUNTU and KUBUNTU. Waiting for XUBUNTU
myself. ;)
I want IceBUNTU :-)
Hans
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Paul Johnson wrote:
Instead of ranting at how Debian sucks for taking the moral high ground, why
not rag on developers that take the moral low ground with inferior and
proprietary licensing? Why should Debian play nicely with developers that
won't play nice themselves? Why should Debian
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 03:58:20PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
The Ubuntu guys felt that it would be cool to install GNOME without
bothering
the user. Both have different goals and are targetted to different users.
Both
decisions are good. It is an issue with
On Friday 21 April 2006 16:31, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Instead of ranting at how Debian sucks for taking the moral high ground,
why not rag on developers that take the moral low ground with inferior
and proprietary licensing? Why should Debian play nicely with developers
On Saturday 22 April 2006 00:11, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
On Friday 21 April 2006 09:53, Chris Lale wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop
Ubuntu wins over debian any moment.
I don't follow this. Install just one package (KDE or
Dear Debians,
I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive.
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much of DEBIAN does UBUNTU
incorporate or does it matter since UBUNTU accesses
Attila Horvath wrote:
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
Debian is a free operating system almost always used with the Linux
kernel, available on x86, m68k, sparc, alpha, ppc, arm, mips, hppa,
ia64, s390, and (in development) amd64 and ppc64
Have you tried searching the list archives? There is already a lot of
coverage for this set of questions. Also, your subject-line is very
likely to provoke a flamewar.
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My question was/is genuine. It's not my intention to start a flamewar.
However, I will search thru the archives for past opinions/suggestions. I
apprecaite your response.
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions. I'd like to set up a LINUX-based server
On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
Dear Debians,
I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive.
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much of DEBIAN does UBUNTU
will give you
honest, straightforward advice. :)
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions. I'd like to set up a LINUX-based server for mail, web,
personal commerce, etc. Since this is for personal purposes, I decided on
LINUX based system because [1]it's
distributions. I'd like to set up a LINUX-based server for mail, web,
personal commerce, etc. Since this is for personal purposes, I decided on
LINUX based system because [1]it's free and [2]my perceived notion that
it's more stable than windows environment.
For server Debian Stable
Being new
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
Although Ubuntu is derived from Debian, they are managed very
differently.
Debian Stable tends to lag, and Debian Testing can be flaky
for production work. A new
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
Dear Debians,
I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive.
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much
On Thursday 20 April 2006 05:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
Dear Debians,
I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive.
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
Both are excellent distributions. Both have its advantages and their own
On Thursday 20 April 2006 16:29, Jeff wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
Dear Debians,
I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive.
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions
Attila Horvath wrote:
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On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 11:02 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
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On Thursday 20 April 2006 15:19, lostson wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 11:02 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Attila Horvath wrote:
Mutsuura Associates, Inc. /\ \
Vienna, VA 22181 / \ \
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is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much of DEBIAN does
UBUNTU incorporate or does it matter since UBUNTU accesses DEBIAN's
repositories for package updates?
hello Paul,
here is a link to a video, its
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 05:45:14AM -0400, chris roddy wrote:
Ubuntu uses Debian's software packaging technology, the Advanced
Packaging Tool (APT). Their installation system is also (or at least was
at one time) derived from Debian's installer. The two distributions
maintain their own
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 08:20:07AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote:
What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN
installations/distributions?
Although Ubuntu is derived from Debian, they are managed very
differently.
Debian Stable tends
On Thursday 20 April 2006 12:19, lostson wrote:
Hey now wait a minute I am a debian user and I have the aliens on mine.
Are these offensive in some way ??
Large ASCII art signatures tend to be information-sparse and usually aren't
novel after the first impression. In some parts of the
was/is genuine. It's not my intention to start a flamewar.
However, I will search thru the archives for past opinions/suggestions. I
apprecaite your response.
I am new to LINUX and somewhat dismaid/confused about the various
distributions. I'd like to set up a LINUX-based server for mail, web
Digby Tarvin wrote:
Consequently I think Debian's more restrictive policy on hardware support
during and after installation is a disadvantage. By all means give preference
to free and open software where there are alternatives, but the time to worry
about the open source friendlyness of the
about the various
distributions. I'd like to set up a LINUX-based server for mail, web,
personal commerce, etc. Since this is for personal purposes, I decided on
LINUX based system because [1]it's free and [2]my perceived notion that
it's more stable than windows environment.
Being new to LINUX
of both the functional
maturity and user-friendliness (highlighted by Sarge) push Debian to
cannabilize other Linux distributions, such as Redhat, Mandriva and
especially other Debian-based distribution such as Xandros and Ubuntu
(after Debian speeds up its release cycle and catches up the most
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