Re: chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
debian.org/debian <http://archive.debian.org/debian> >> > >> > and it worked ok,but when I try to chroot within it : >> > >> > root@marietto-Z87-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# >> >> > chroot ./jessie-armhf /bin/bash &

Re: chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
http://archive.debian.org/debian <http://archive.debian.org/debian> > > > > and it worked ok,but when I try to chroot within it : > > > > root@marietto-Z87-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# > > > chroot ./jessie-armhf /bin/bash &g

Re: chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

2023-06-18 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
bian.org/debian> and it worked ok,but when I try to chroot within it : root@marietto-Z87-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# chroot ./jessie-armhf /bin/bash it gives the following error : chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

Re: chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

2023-06-18 Thread Darac Marjal
bian.org/debian> and it worked ok,but when I try to chroot within it : root@marietto-Z87-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# chroot ./jessie-armhf /bin/bash it gives the following error : chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
7-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# chroot ./jessie-armhf /bin/bash it gives the following error : chroot: can't execute command "/bin/bash": No such file or directory but I see the file bash within the directory /bin of the debootstrapped directory called

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-16 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Me Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 19:23:26 +0200 Message-id: <[🔎] 568e7aa9-e061-194a-13f8-8e2379f69...@nodatagrabbing.com> In-reply-to: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> References: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> and

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 15 juin 2023, 20:15 de m...@nodatagrabbing.com: > Although I have never used it myself (I am 100% a vim and by extension a > vimwiki person) > +1 for vimwiki. > I know someone who used (not sure if he still does) Basket Notes > (https://basket-notepads.github.io/) and loves it. > In that ca

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Me
On 2023-06-15 12:54, Susmita/Rajib wrote: My dear illustrious Leaders of the Debian-user List and Senior List Members, There is Wiki.js but a Debian package for wiki.js isn't available. Then there is libreoffice-wiki-publisher in Debian, the LibreOffice extension for working with MediaWiki arti

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > From: Michel Verdier > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:54:35 +0200 > Message-id: <[🔎] 87edmdaql0@free.fr> > In-reply-to: <[🔎] > caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> > References: <[🔎] > caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gm

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Michel Verdier Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 13:54:35 +0200 Message-id: <[🔎] 87edmdaql0@free.fr> In-reply-to: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> References: <[🔎] caeg4czxryyivofecor24n8o8bkbrvvuc+hhu2mmrzwyjrlj...@mail.gmail.com> [ ... ] > emacs ? Tha

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread 황병희
On Thu, 2023-06-15 at 13:54 +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2023-06-15, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > > I require a WYSIWYG editor. Zim is one. But I also need another > > supporting editor to further polish up files. > > emacs ? > +1; emacs is good! Also i use emacs very heavy ^^^ Sincerely, -

Re: Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-06-15, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > I require a WYSIWYG editor. Zim is one. But I also need another > supporting editor to further polish up files. emacs ?

Is there no other tool but Zim, the graphical text editor based on wiki technologies, in Debian, to create intertwined wiki pages locally?

2023-06-15 Thread Susmita/Rajib
My dear illustrious Leaders of the Debian-user List and Senior List Members, There is Wiki.js but a Debian package for wiki.js isn't available. Then there is libreoffice-wiki-publisher in Debian, the LibreOffice extension for working with MediaWiki articles. But files created with zim don't appe

Re: chromecast: no audio when casting screen

2023-06-13 Thread javibarroso
Hello, I'm trying to repply to an old thread, not sure if it will work (I'm using the link from https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/02/msg00394.html openned with thunderbird) *** Old thread *** I have just find a posible solution https://www.linuxuprising.com/2020/04/how-to-cast-your-gn

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Darac Marjal writes: On 10/06/2023 16:08, S M wrote: On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:12:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: Is command-line editing part of POSIX, then? Are you suggesting that dash is missing some bit of POSIX compliance? That's possible. Command-line editing in vi-mode is defined by

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On 10/06/2023 16:08, S M wrote: On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:12:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: Is command-line editing part of POSIX, then? Are you suggesting that dash is missing some bit of POSIX compliance? That's possible. Command-line editing in vi-mode is defined by POSIX, but it's not m

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
around that start with "#!/bin/sh" and fail to work with dash - > these are the reasons I can think of. I have serious doubts about that. I'm sure that *in Debian*, virtually all scripts have been fixed to use the correct syntax for their shebang. But outside of Debian? The worl

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-06-09 12:06 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-06-09 at 12:00, Charles Curley wrote: > >> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:38:25 + >> S M wrote: >> >>> I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that >>> dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows t

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread S M
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 09:49:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > There's no point debating any further. S M has a unique desire, which > is not shared by any other person I've ever heard of, and they're going > to do what they want. I didn't mean this to be a d

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread gene heskett
On 6/9/23 20:33, S M wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:00:51PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh pointing to bash and chsh to that. Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread S M
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:12:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Is command-line editing part of POSIX, then? Are you suggesting that dash is > missing some bit of POSIX compliance? That's possible. Command-line editing in vi-mode is defined by POSIX, but it's not mandatory as far as I know.

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
to me. > Is command-line editing part of POSIX, then? Are you suggesting that dash is > missing some bit of POSIX compliance? That's possible. There's no point debating any further. S M has a unique desire, which is not shared by any other person I've ever heard of, and they're going to do what they want.

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On 10/06/2023 01:32, S M wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:00:51PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh pointing to bash and chsh to that. Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread S M
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:00:51PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: > > Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh > > pointing to bash and chsh to that. > > Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you wan

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: > Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh > pointing to bash and chsh to that. Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you want as your interactive shell? Are you somehow relying on bash's disabling

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread S M
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 04:07:03PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Nothing you wrote here is incorrect, but none of it explains the policy > change that has occurred. I won't even say it's a bad policy change. > It makes at least a little bit of sense... Yeah, I'd also like to know what was the re

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > Huh. Well, that's rather important, isn't it? > > The package maintainers seem to have forgotten to TELL us this, at least > in the NEWS.Debian.gz file, which still says only: > > unicorn:/usr/share/doc/dash$ zless NEWS.Debian.gz > dash (0.5.5.1-2.1) unstable; urgency=l

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:20:52PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/06/2023 à 15:38, S M a écrit : > > I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure > > no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is > > apparently i

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le 09/06/2023 à 15:38, S M a écrit : Good day. I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is apparently intentional as per the following: https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/dash/0.5.11

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-06-09 at 12:00, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:38:25 + > S M wrote: > >> I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that >> dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from >> dash to bash. > > You can

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:38:25 + S M wrote: > I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that > dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from > dash to bash. You can still change it manually (rm ; ln -s). -- Does anybody read signatures any mor

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 07:20:29AM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > >From the comments on > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/-/commit/c322a1c9fc6be11d7eb4439407c0a398aba8bbb7, > this is intentional and permanent. /bin/sh pointing to bash is no > longer supported. Huh. Well

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Fri, Jun 09 2023 at 01:38:25 PM, S M wrote: > Good day. > > I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that > dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from > dash to bash. This is apparently intentional as per the following: > > https:/

"dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

2023-06-09 Thread S M
Good day. I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is apparently intentional as per the following: https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/dash/0.5.11+git20210903+057cd650a4ed-4 I couldn&#

Re: no web

2023-06-02 Thread CL
Hello, I'm not an expert but I think you can use package `broadcom-sta-dkms`. You will find it in the non-free repo. Please refer to (Debian Packages)[https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/broadcom-sta-dkms] also. If you don't want use non-free packages I see not a real chance to get it unfo

Re: no web

2023-05-31 Thread David Christensen
On 5/31/23 21:20, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i’m using bullseye 7 in a hp compaq 6830s i386 intel pentium dual t3400 and i can’t find the network drivers broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) STFW "debian BCM4312", the first hit is: https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx David

no web

2023-05-31 Thread Aleix Piulachs
i’m using bullseye 7 in a hp compaq 6830s i386 intel pentium dual t3400 and i can’t find the network drivers broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)

Re: no pwm

2023-05-30 Thread David Christensen
, it looks like that laptop has one fan and one heat sink/ heat pipe: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-6830s-notebook-pc/3688712/manuals The fan runs from windows7 because stays in ram but from bullseye no and the temperature is over 55 or so degrees Again, please "Reply to lis

Re: no pwm

2023-05-29 Thread David Christensen
ory heat sink and fan with the factory connection (3- or 4-wire), and no other fans. Does the fan run at any time? Does it change speeds? Please answer the remaining questions: >> Boot the computer into Setup and reply with all available fan control >> settings for all fa

Re: no pwm

2023-05-29 Thread David Christensen
On 5/28/23 19:27, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i use instead of pwm because it gets very hot Computer model? Processor? Does it have the factory heat sink and fan? Is the motherboard CPU fan pin header 3- or 4-wire? Is the fan 3

no pwm

2023-05-28 Thread Aleix Piulachs
i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i use instead of pwm because it gets very hot

PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-21 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good morning Dear Gene Sorry I could no find Your anwswer Thank You Regards Sophie Von: gene heskett Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Mai 2023 11:51 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible On 5/20/23

Re: AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-20 Thread gene heskett
On 5/20/23 07:32, Schwibinger Michael wrote: AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible Good afternoon Thank You for email. I think in Linux I shall post here a file where the other users of the group can see the mistake I did. Which file shall I read out and mail here to

AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-20 Thread Schwibinger Michael
AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible Good afternoon Thank You for email. I think in Linux I shall post here a file where the other users of the group can see the mistake I did. Which file shall I read out and mail here to the group? Regards Sophie The computer is using

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > >> other servers. > > Nowadays, time is something that can be handled locally with a Gossip > > protocol. Let your watch or phone or television or toaster tell your > > computer what time it is. No need for a

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
wadays, time is something that can be handled locally with a Gossip > protocol. Let your watch or phone or television or toaster tell your > computer what time it is. No need for a remote call to a server. > >> Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server >>

Re: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-19 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
had gone straight > down the line and changed everything directly under "/" to a third > party username. No root, no 1001 for that one back then. After thinking about it again, I take that back. I THINK Adobe affected only the directories it touched, not all "/" direct

Re: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-19 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
g it this time. And they're perping it in a different way. Adobe had gone straight down the line and changed everything directly under "/" to a third party username. No root, no 1001 for that one back then. Cindy :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *

PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-19 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon I did the update and when doing new start: Crash Regards Sophie Von: CL Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2023 08:34 An: Schwibinger Michael ; Andrew M.A. Cater ; debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: NEW problem PANIC AW: SOLUTION AW: EPSON ..

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-18 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 10:42 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2023 10:07:05 -0400 > Default User wrote: > > > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet- > > connected > > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, > > would > > there be any rea

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 18 May 2023 10:07:05 -0400 Default User wrote: > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet-connected > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, would > there be any reason to use ntp instead? NTP is a protocol, like TCP or UDP. One program that

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-18 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 10:20 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Default User wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > > > want to ru

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Default User wrote: > On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > > > other ser

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-18 Thread Default User
On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > > other servers. > > Concur. > > > > > Debi

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > other servers. Concur. > > Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server > and chrony, at l

Delete printer emails YES NO?

2023-05-17 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good evening Is it polite to delete all EPSON emails? I think Yes. Thank You to all Sophie

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
05-16 11:15:22.564093+00:00 > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > other servers. ++. Let the software handle it. Nowadays, time is something that can be handled locally with a Gossip proto

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > In case someone runs into the same problem, for some reason I can't > quite understand "sudo hwclock --set" wasn't working. Someone helped > me: > > https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/util-linux/hwclock.8.en.html > https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime > > and "date" wo

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-17 Thread Albretch Mueller
> Yes, I did. I had to reset the BIOS to "factory settings" which also > changed the clock time which then I couldn't change with hwclock ... "Another day another problem": computer clock back to BIOS factory settings Your Computer Clock is Wrong: Your computer thinks it is 8/7/2022, which pre

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
s NTFS of my laptop and my employer's as well without any problems whatsoever. I just open the file browser/viewer and click the drive to mount it in order to unmount, eject it you right click on it. It works. >> $ cp "No space left on device" > No_space_left_on_device.txt >

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Albretch Mueller writes: > I have been mounting an NTFS file system on a Windows laptop without > any problems whatsoever with a Debian Live DVD: Mounting how exactly? And what is the contents of /proc/mounts? Maybe you mounted the partition read only?

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-15 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Joe wrote: > > First thing to try is to boot back into Windows and see if there is a > message about the drive. If so, let Windows 'fix' it. I've had cases > where the drive was not cleanly unmounted and Linux has mounted it > read-only. Windows was able to repair it, whatever the problem was. Oh

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-15 Thread Joe
0F Sun 14 May 2023 07:13:43 PM UTC > > 166G/media/user/60320G593EB7250F > > > > real0m45.230s > > user0m1.073s > > sys 0m15.443s > > $ > > > > when I try to save or download a file I consistently get the same > > error message: > > &

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 15 May 2023 00:32:01 + Albretch Mueller wrote: > when I try to save or download a file I consistently get the same > error message: > > $ cp "No space left on device" > No_space_left_on_device.txt > bash: No_space_left_on_device.txt: No space left on devi

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
hen I try to save or download a file I consistently get the same error > message: > > $ cp "No space left on device" > No_space_left_on_device.txt > bash: No_space_left_on_device.txt: No space left on device > > that started happening right after a WiFi connection at a

No space left on device ...

2023-05-14 Thread Albretch Mueller
7:13:43 PM UTC 166G/media/user/60320G593EB7250F real0m45.230s user0m1.073s sys 0m15.443s $ when I try to save or download a file I consistently get the same error message: $ cp "No space left on device" > No_space_left_on_device.txt bash: No_space_left_on_device.txt:

Re: shame on me (was: Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs))

2023-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 May 2023 at 12:10:48 (+0200), DdB wrote: > I notice, that, even though i did change the name of the sda2 partition, > the PARTLABEl remained unchanged. It's rather confusing that gdisk (my preferred partitioner, which I use outside the installer) refers to the PARTLABEL as the partition

Re: shame on me (was: Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs))

2023-05-02 Thread songbird
DdB wrote: ... > I notice, that, even though i did change the name of the sda2 partition, > the PARTLABEl remained unchanged. > This proves my previous post wrong and i am sorry for the confusion, > this may have caused. You were correct all along. > DdB yes, but i also recall you saying somethi

shame on me (was: Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs))

2023-05-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.05.2023 um 05:50 schrieb David Wright: > On Tue 02 May 2023 at 02:21:20 (+0200), DdB wrote: >> Am 01.05.2023 um 21:38 schrieb David Wright: >>> And PARTLABELs aren't interfered with even by the installer. >> >> This at least i can contradict for a fact. > > So is this post the rebuttal, or a

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-02 Thread David Christensen
tand and consider. Just keep in mind, that if a problem arises, i might not be able too deal with, i will be cut off from everything, no paper based calendar even exists. So i am careful. DdB It seems like you are trying to solve several issues at the same time: 1. How to install Debian onto

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 May 2023 at 02:21:20 (+0200), DdB wrote: > Am 01.05.2023 um 21:38 schrieb David Wright: > > And PARTLABELs aren't interfered with even by the installer. > > This at least i can contradict for a fact. So is this post the rebuttal, or are you posting the evidence elsewhere? > VM is funct

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.05.2023 um 21:38 schrieb David Wright: > And PARTLABELs aren't interfered with even by the installer. This at least i can contradict for a fact. VM is functional with known and documented partlabels, then the installer handles partitions (reformat is permitted) and the UUID's AND the PARTUUI

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread DdB
erns, somthing i am trying to understand and consider. Just keep in mind, that if a problem arises, i might not be able too deal with, i will be cut off from everything, no paper based calendar even exists. So i am careful. DdB

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread DdB
ption here: (1) Funny little detail: Ubuntu is suffering way less, because their distribution is based on more recent version than debian stable is. At least i saw some guy posting a video on youtube showing, how he upgraded gnome-shell to experimental thereby creating a frankendebian, something,

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 13:08:56 (+0200), DdB wrote: > One explanation of my choice to stick with PARTUUID's: > In my overall stategy of using my computer, i am sometimes copying (dd) > whole partitions into a backup, a secondary partition or a VM, which can > easily lead to difficulties, if the sam

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread David Christensen
method Device-mapper (dm-crypt) Encryption aes Key size256 IV algorithmxts-plain64 Encryption key Random key Erase data no Bootable flag

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
;Debian Desktop" selected, the installer chooses a Desktop Environment for you. And guess which one it chooses by default? That's right: GNOME. Assuming you're using a standard installer image, and not one that has a DE in its name. I have no idea why this confusing default auto-selection exists, but it does.

No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.05.2023 um 10:23 schrieb Michel Verdier: > Le 1 mai 2023 DdB a écrit : > >> But omitting GNOME from the list lead to a system failing to boot with >> tons of messages stating the absense of all kind of gnome parts. > > To install without gnome I select the task ssh server then after I > man

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 1 mai 2023 DdB a écrit : > Any suggestions/questions/hints from the power-users in here? > ... would be wildly appreciated ... When installing you have to stop on your first problem. The others could be created from it. It's longer but easier to cope with. So give us full details on your first

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-05-01 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 1 mai 2023 DdB a écrit : > But omitting GNOME from the list lead to a system failing to boot with > tons of messages stating the absense of all kind of gnome parts. To install without gnome I select the task ssh server then after I manually select what I want, and a WM if needed.

Re: No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-04-30 Thread David Wright
tall failures due to the 4GB of RAM apparently > not being enough for that VM. I can install bullseye and bookworm-RC1 standard software (no DE) on an i386 laptop with ½GB memory using no swap, so that surprises me. > Another problem, similar but distinctly different happens around the OS >

No fool like an old fool (debian installation probs)

2023-04-30 Thread DdB
Hello list, after receiving so much good advice, i finally made up my mind and began playing through the installation (debian bullseye, current stable) in my simulation-VM in order to learn about the pitfalls to avoid. After more than a dozen tries, i am running out of fuel, because i am continuou

Re: Re: (Thread restarted!) Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-29 Thread Valentin Caracalla
Hello everyone, I partly solved my problem and I would like to share my solution: Until now, I thought that the EFI removable media path (\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) is really a fallback location, i.e. a location for putting the boot loader that just always works. Therefore I thought that I could fo

Re: (Thread restarted!) Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Apr 2023 at 10:18:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 22:57, Valentin Caracalla wrote: > > the issue with the BIOS boot interface (see my original posting) is still > > unsolved > > I had impression that there was no issue with booting in BIOS (legacy,

Re: (Thread restarted!) Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/04/2023 22:57, Valentin Caracalla wrote: the issue with the BIOS boot interface (see my original posting) is still unsolved I had impression that there was no issue with booting in BIOS (legacy, compatibility, CSM) mode, of course when it is chosen in firmware/BIOS setup (requires

(Thread restarted!) Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-26 Thread Valentin Caracalla
at it uses the EFI fallback location which is guaranteed to work in every EFI implementation and doesn't depend on EFI variables. On my hardware, the problem exists no matter which of the two recipes I use. Can you reproduce the issue on your hardware? Or is it just my old hardware causing the p

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-26 Thread Nicolas George
David Wright (12023-04-25): > Don't knock it! The Human Era is much easier for us to parse than ;-) > the French Republican calendar (pre 2018). I had not realized I had fans devoted to the point of tracking the eras of my mail attribution. ;-)² Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc De

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-26 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-04-25): > find /mnt/boot/efi -exec ls -dl {} + zsh ls -dl /mnt/boot/efi/**/* Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Apr 2023 at 09:14:25 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: > > Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): [ … ] > P.S. Nicolas, it seems your mailer has issues with parsing or > formatting timestamps. Don't knock it! The Human Era is much easier for us to parse th

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 09:34:11AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: > > > > user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) > > find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- > > should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in > thi

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/04/2023 05:02, Valentin Caracalla wrote: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) find /mnt/boot/efi -print0 | xargs -0 ls -dl -- should be more resistant to peculiar file names, but it does not matter in this case. ... -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 126 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/04/2023 00:42, Nicolas George wrote: Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was inform

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-26): > EFI variables are not supported on this system. To install GRUB in UEFI, you need to have booted the kernel in UEFI. Try to find a live image that does, and you can reinstall GRUB from there. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Valentin Caracalla
Here's the output you requested: user@host:~$ ls -dl $(find /mnt/boot/efi) drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/boot/efi drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   32768 Apr 25 13:59 /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/debian -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Steve McIntyre (12023-04-25): > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything > >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with > >less. > Please STOP giving this advice to people! That was not advice, that was information. Make your own advice with it.

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
Nicolas George wrote: >Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): >> 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by >> https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) > >If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything >besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12023-04-25): > 0.5GB is usually enough, e.g. 550MiB recommended by > https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#esp_sizing) If you do not intend to install a Microsoft bootloader or anything besides GRUB, 16 megaoctets is plenty enough, probably can work with less. Regards, --

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/04/2023 21:40, Valentin Caracalla wrote: I checked my partition table using "sudo parted /dev/sda print" Number  Start   End    Size   File system  Name  Flags 1  1049kB  128GB  128GB  fat32    init  boot, esp 2  128GB   256GB  128GB  ext4 root Please, show

Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
vorubergeh...@tutanota.com wrote: >By the way: > >The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the >following will not show a GRUB command line: > >sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda > >The same thing works for the BIOS boot interface, however (as in my

Re: Re: Debian installation using debootstrap and grub-install - no entry in ESC boot menu

2023-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Valentin Caracalla (12023-04-25): > The disadvantage of using EFI is that it doesn't work in QEMU, i.e. the > following will not show a GRUB command line: > > sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -smp 2 -m 2G /dev/sda Oh, I must check if the KVM virtual machine booting on UEFI I have been toying w

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