On Wednesday 23 August 2006 22:39, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 18:13, Hal Vaughan wrote:
I never even knew there were moderators until one showed up a few
months ago (or sometime within the past 6 months or so) and started
censoring posts that were critical of
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Paul Johnson wrote:
¹ For those not of US origin, the US has had an electoral college to
decide it's soverign since it's inception, the popular vote for
president is legally nonbinding in nearly all states: the electoral
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 07:39:47PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 18:13, Hal Vaughan wrote:
I never even knew there were moderators until one showed up a few months
ago (or sometime within the past 6 months or so) and started censoring
posts that were critical of
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Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
what you're failing to explain is that this is pretty much a formality any way
since the EC pretty much followed the popular vote of that state. There have
been extremely rare cases where that is not
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 19:58, Steve Lamb wrote:
¹ For those not of US origin,
Ignore Paul as he slants his posts to cast the most negative light on
any non-socialist administration. Given this is a Capitalist society you
can imagine how flawed his information is. For a prime
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 19:35, Mihira Fernando wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
¹ For those not of US origin, the US has had an electoral college to
decide it's soverign since it's inception, the popular vote for president
is legally nonbinding in nearly all states: the electoral college can
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 20:33, Ron Johnson wrote:
Citizens, dead people, and illegal immigrants vote for Electors who
are pledged to vote for a specific candidate.
The EC isn't elected at all, it's appointed.
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Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Nevermind that he was impeached for lying under oath in an investigation
Er, sorry, Faced Impeachment is what I meant.
point of fact, like him or not he WAS impeached, just not found guilty.
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Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There's also the case of the Libranet help list that had a number of
quite knowledgeable people on it, but when Libranet started censoring
them (I won't go into the entire story, I'll just say they weren't
paying people to provide tech support, but many
Paul Johnson wrote:
That's not true. The UN has a similarly negative view of our electoral
college.
So? Any non-elected group which caters to terrorism, has been proven
corrupt time and again and is against free speech is a group I should care
about how exactly?
with leftover Joe
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 21:18, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
That's not true. The UN has a similarly negative view of our electoral
college.
So? Any non-elected group which caters to terrorism, has been proven
corrupt time and again and is against free speech is a group I
Paul Johnson wrote:
Wait, which are you referring to, the US or the UN? It's not clear, they
both
do...
The UN and you disseminate.
Sure there is. Socialism allows for different political models, and in
No, it doesn't. When the government gets into industry that is political
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now,
and every gas station in the country would have converted back to
full-service.
Full service is exceptionally rare in Oregon, minimum-service is the norm.
There is a
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:45, Ron Johnson wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]:
[snip]
Motorcyclists and scooters drivers have their choice for that reason.
Though knowing how to
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by
now, and every gas station in the country would have converted
back to full-service.
Full service is
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On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by
now, and every gas station in the country would have converted
back to full-service.
Full service is
Paul Johnson wrote:
No. On the other hand, hard to argue with gas being cheaper in Oregon when
you can see the difference in an hour round trip to Vancouver...
Which doesn't mean the reason you gave is the reason for the difference.
As has been pointed out if the reason you gave were true
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
No. On the other hand, hard to argue with gas being cheaper in
Oregon when
you can see the difference in an hour round trip to Vancouver...
Which doesn't mean the reason you gave is the reason for the
difference.
As
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:-) You're not obliged to read this thread, you can filter,
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
Hi!
It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian
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Thanks a lot!
C'mon. Give everyone a break. Some of us have no life at all,
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by
now, and every gas station in the country would have
* Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 05:28 -0500]:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by
now, and every gas station in the country
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 22:30 -0500]:
In the US, farmers are exempt from paying sales tax on gasoline.
So, if you qualify as a farmer, you can have a fuel (gas or
diesel) tank on your property. Distributors, though, dye the fuel,
to mark it as farm fuel.
Only in
Clive Menzies wrote:
:-) You're not obliged to read this thread, you can filter, delete or
ignore the posts. FWIW gas here costs c. £1/litre (no matter who pumps
it) which translates to c. $8.00 /gallon. So we pay more to contribute
to global warming :)
That's certianly true. My personal
On (22/08/06 14:13), Joey Hess wrote:
That's certianly true. My personal preference when filtering continually
offtopic traffic on mailing lists is to /dev/null anything the people
who keep the thread going say. You may want to keep that in mind if you
have any interest in using this list for
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 09:23, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote:
Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
Hi!
It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian
related questions *only*?
Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read lists.debian.org again.
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
Hi!
It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian
related questions *only*?
Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read lists.debian.org again.
You seem to have missed the
Ah the debian community is so caring XPOn 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*?
Sorry, this list was made for
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 12:25, Joey Hess wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
Hi!
It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian
related questions *only*?
Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian
related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this
very much...
C'mon. Give everyone a break. Some of us have no life at all,
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 12:25, Joey Hess wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
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On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:21, Steve Lamb wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
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C'mon.
He should get a clue, and you should get a life!
If you look at this
list over time, you will find a rich history of OT threads. They can be
cathartic, offering another kind of support-- relief from boredom and
a place to run your mouth-- for debain users.
If you need relief from downloading
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Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
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On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:56, Hex Star wrote:
Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it?
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On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
On 8/22/06, Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Ron Johnson wrote:
So if we use Ubuntu... ;)
You should be drawn, quartered, stabbed, hung, shot and then REALLY hurt.
Of course I'm the one with Mepis on my desktop. But in my defense
Debian's on my laptop and router/file server. :)
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:25:46PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wow
See the Wikimedia Foundation for all the information you'll ever need.
Especially useful
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:25:46PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wow
See the Wikimedia
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 21:33, Steve Lamb wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
So if we use Ubuntu... ;)
You should be drawn, quartered, stabbed, hung, shot and then
REALLY hurt.
Of course I'm the one with Mepis on my desktop. But in my
defense Debian's on my laptop and router/file
* Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 19:52 -0500]:
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 07:00:09PM -0600, edwardsa wrote:
He should get a clue, and you should get a life!
If you look at this
list over time, you will find a rich history of OT threads. They can be
cathartic, offering another kind of support-- relief from boredom and
a place to run your
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 22:30, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 19:52 -0500]:
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The bridge went dark and the entire ship lurched, throwing
Hal Vaughan wrote:
I tried Mepis for a while. It was fine for the 1st six months or so,
but once the testing and unstable got out of sync, I had more and more
problems adding packages when I had to.
I just got it because it had an easy install and installed decent video
drivers. For
On 8/22/06, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Or has Mepis gone to the Ubuntu repository now, like Libranet and some other distros did?)Not sure.Ubuntu's repositories are one of the reasons I don't like it.If Mepis went that way I'd be a sad panda.
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Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
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C'mon. Give everyone a
Hex Star wrote:
lol, referring to this panda? :P
That'd be the one. :)
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Katipo wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
[snip]
Nothing, even remotely close to the volumes generated by
Americans and their contracted bodies in Korea and China. They
Paul Johnson wrote:
The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for gas than
neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive than hiring
someone to sit in the kiosk and wrangle pumps, and the gas line moves faster
since you're not having to wait behind
On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for gas than
neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive than
hiring someone to sit in the kiosk and wrangle pumps, and the gas line
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Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get
to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being
unused.
Paul Johnson wrote:
Go to Vancouver (WA or BC, either of them, doesn't matter). Or Seattle.
There's usually a standing puddle of gasoline in front of at least one pump
and the place reeks of gasoline by comparison to even a truck stop gas
station in Oregon. This isn't to say that even the
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for
gas than
neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive
than hiring someone
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:50, Jacob S wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:34:16 -0700
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get
to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being
On Monday 21 August 2006 16:48, Hal Vaughan wrote:
Maybe the engineers who have jobs designing those things actually know
more about what they're doing than we do?
Even if that is the case, it's not going to stop me from getting gas at five
or six in the morning anyway, the morning rush hour
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Usually a quick run through and the first few fills supervised to make sure
Paul Johnson wrote:
Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone and only take
thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines, right tank or not. But if
you go to well-staffed high-volume stations like truck stops or stations off
the beaten path like taxi stands,
So
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[snip
* Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]:
Actually, I have found that the lines are longer, here in Oregon, than
when I lived elsewhere. I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get
to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being unused.
For those of us
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Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone
and only take thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines,
right tank or not. But if you go to well-staffed high-volume
stations like truck
Self serve pay at the pump. Get in, get out. No fussing with
attends, etc. I only buy my fuel at stations that have pay at the
pump.
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Snip
Snip
One major point he made about auto fuel was that
it is stored in a tank that is, at least in VA, 15 feet or more
underground, kept at a constant temperature and pressure, and that
this effect the delivery much more than the air temperature.
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone and only
take thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines, right tank or not.
But if you go to well-staffed high-volume stations like truck stops or
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Ron Johnson wrote:
Oregonians don't sound very competent.
The reason nobody actively fights it, and why all five petitions that made it
to the ballot to overrule the DEQ and fire marshal on the self-service issue,
largely has to do with getting gas cheaper than
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]:
Actually, I have found that the lines are longer, here in Oregon, than
when I lived elsewhere. I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get
to sit in a long line and look at
Paul Johnson wrote:
Only if you want to get it at evening rush and have a lefthand tank. If you
plan ahead and go in the morning or at lunch, usually there's a pump
available at almost any station without a line no matter what side your
filler neck faces. My point was right-hand and
* Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 21:50 -0500]:
I also wonder about the poor farmers, who fills there tanks? If an
exception exists for farmers, what qualifies as a farm? If I have
say 2 acre's of land and want my own fuel tank can I qualify?
Am I also allowed to have say ten ten
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One major point he made about auto fuel was that
it is stored in a tank that is, at least in VA, 15 feet or more
underground, kept at a constant temperature and pressure,
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Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 21:50 -0500]:
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NUTS! You went where I was wanting to go!
I was thinking along the lines of what if I had the station jerk
fill my jerry cans and then I go across the street
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Ron Johnson wrote:
Oregonians don't sound very competent.
The reason nobody actively fights it, and why all five petitions
that made it to the ballot to overrule the DEQ and fire marshal
on
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]:
[snip]
Motorcyclists and scooters drivers have their choice for that reason. Though
knowing how to pump gas
Ron Johnson wrote:
As far as gerrycans of fuel for your generator, I don't know if
there are any regulations on that. No one said anything when we
stock up on gerrycans preparing for Katrina.
But Katrina didn't hit Oregon.
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Ron Johnson wrote:
As far as gerrycans of fuel for your generator, I don't know if
there are any regulations on that. No one said anything when we
stock up on gerrycans preparing for Katrina.
But Katrina didn't hit
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