Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-25 Thread Katipo
Steve Lamb wrote: Katipo wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Yes, because Government has nothing better to do than fritter it's citizens money on something that probably nets them no gain. Sorry, that's a huge negative in my book. That would seem to be somewhat inconsistent,

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-25 Thread Katipo
Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 24 August 2006 14:29, Katipo wrote: You're in the States, and therefore classified as American market source. I'm in Australia, and it's all China and Korea here. Very little from South America or EU. I used to get a *lot* from Korea, almost all of it

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote: Perhaps your experience of government is, but Brazillian government doesn't answer to the description of coercive. Government, by definition, is coercive. That is why it should be limited in scope. They're not giving away money. They simply don't have it to give away.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote: But in many cases, they're not knock-offs. They're simply 'Black and Gold', or 'Home Brand' wrappings of the same product, while corporates disguise the act with screams of 'Patent theft'. Cites? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream?

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 03:22, Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32:52 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Katipo
Steve Lamb wrote: Katipo wrote: Nothing, even remotely close to the volumes generated by Americans and their contracted bodies in Korea and China. They hire out entire ISPs for the purpose. Which would be China and Korea's problems respectively and does not excuse Brazil's ills.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] Corporates employ off-shore spammers because they have the cheap labour resources ( a lot of the ISPs clients get free online in return for spamming), act as an identity buffer for public image

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Yes, because Government has nothing better to do than fritter it's citizens money on something that probably nets them no gain. Sorry, that's a huge negative in my book. That would seem to be somewhat inconsistent, coming from somebody that supposedly

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 24 August 2006 14:29, Katipo wrote: You're in the States, and therefore classified as American market source. I'm in Australia, and it's all China and Korea here. Very little from South America or EU. I used to get a *lot* from Korea, almost all of it from Kornet. I have to

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread cr
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:39, Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: I tried Mepis for a while. It was fine for the 1st six months or so, but once the testing and unstable got out of sync, I had more and more problems adding packages when I had to. I just got it because it had an easy

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Matt Johnson
- Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32:52 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) Steve Lamb wrote: Furthermore (not to you Hal) I find it mildly Ironic

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32:52 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Matt Johnson wrote: Excuse me? You are joking, right? Relevant opinion from only certain nationalities on this list? You've lost me here, lads. Perhaps you could exlain this clearly. Just as I wrote. It is ironic that someone from Brazil, which is notorious for it's black-hacker

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote: Nothing, even remotely close to the volumes generated by Americans and their contracted bodies in Korea and China. They hire out entire ISPs for the purpose. Which would be China and Korea's problems respectively and does not excuse Brazil's ills. ...and to counterbalance

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Matt Johnson
- Original Message From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 2:18:56 PM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) Matt Johnson wrote: Excuse me? You are joking, right? Relevant opinion from

ON TOPIC: comparative distros (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-23 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 07:49:18AM +1200, cr wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:39, Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: I tried Mepis for a while. It was fine for the 1st six months or so, but once the testing and unstable got out of sync, I had more and more problems adding packages when

Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip nice Start Trek story] LOL, that just made my day :))) Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 03:22, Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2006 1:32:52 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) Steve Lamb

Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-23 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 21:51 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip nice Start Trek story] LOL, that just made my day :))) Andrei Yeah, that was impressive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello, First of all, I would like to say that I am a very happy user of Debian, and always received a lot of kind help from the members of this list. If I can manage myself in running Debian the way I do, is due to the support I obtain continuosly from this list. I apologize very much if I was

RE: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-23 Thread Daniel Rose
Osama Bin Laden Take Over List! It looks like the young man who started all this was at least partly successful!! People who don't like off-topic threads need a thread-aware email reader, then the problem goes away

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now, and every gas station in the country would have converted back to full-service. Full service is exceptionally rare in Oregon, minimum-service is the norm. There is a

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 20:45, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]: [snip] Motorcyclists and scooters drivers have their choice for that reason. Though knowing how to

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now, and every gas station in the country would have converted back to full-service. Full service is

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Matt Johnson
- Original Message From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 August, 2006 2:30:54 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Johnson
Laden Take Over List!) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 August, 2006 1:20:46 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now, and every gas station in the country would have converted back to full-service. Full service is

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: No. On the other hand, hard to argue with gas being cheaper in Oregon when you can see the difference in an hour round trip to Vancouver... Which doesn't mean the reason you gave is the reason for the difference. As has been pointed out if the reason you gave were true

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Rich Johnson
On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: No. On the other hand, hard to argue with gas being cheaper in Oregon when you can see the difference in an hour round trip to Vancouver... Which doesn't mean the reason you gave is the reason for the difference. As

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... Thanks a lot! Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Clive Menzies
On (22/08/06 11:30), Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... Thanks a lot! Marcelo :-) You're not obliged to read this thread, you can filter,

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... Thanks a lot! C'mon. Give everyone a break. Some of us have no life at all,

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Nate Duehr
On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now, and every gas station in the country would have

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 05:28 -0500]: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by now, and every gas station in the country

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 22:30 -0500]: In the US, farmers are exempt from paying sales tax on gasoline. So, if you qualify as a farmer, you can have a fuel (gas or diesel) tank on your property. Distributors, though, dye the fuel, to mark it as farm fuel. Only in

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Joey Hess
Clive Menzies wrote: :-) You're not obliged to read this thread, you can filter, delete or ignore the posts. FWIW gas here costs c. £1/litre (no matter who pumps it) which translates to c. $8.00 /gallon. So we pay more to contribute to global warming :) That's certianly true. My personal

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Clive Menzies
On (22/08/06 14:13), Joey Hess wrote: That's certianly true. My personal preference when filtering continually offtopic traffic on mailing lists is to /dev/null anything the people who keep the thread going say. You may want to keep that in mind if you have any interest in using this list for

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 09:23, Nate Duehr wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 20:43, Ron Johnson wrote: Someone in the other 48 states would have figured that out by

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read lists.debian.org again. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP Google Talk): [EMAIL

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Joey Hess
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read lists.debian.org again. You seem to have missed the

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Hex Star
Ah the debian community is so caring XPOn 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? Sorry, this list was made for

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 12:25, Joey Hess wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? Sorry, this list was made for Debian users. Go read

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... C'mon. Give everyone a break. Some of us have no life at all,

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread John Schmidt
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:35, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 12:25, Joey Hess wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions

Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-22 Thread Owen Heisler
Spam to Gas pumping in Oregon to Whether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)))

2006-08-22 Thread Hex Star
Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it?On 8/22/06, Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam toGas pumping in Oregon toWhether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow!--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:21, Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... C'mon.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread edwardsa
He should get a clue, and you should get a life! If you look at this list over time, you will find a rich history of OT threads. They can be cathartic, offering another kind of support-- relief from boredom and a place to run your mouth-- for debain users. If you need relief from downloading

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very

Re: Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)))

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:56, Hex Star wrote: Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it? On 8/22/06, Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam to Gas pumping in Oregon to Whether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow! Who invented top posting? Or breaking threads when

Re: About the WikiMedia Foundation (WAS: Re: Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))))

2006-08-22 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote: On 8/22/06, Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam to Gas pumping in Oregon to Whether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow! Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wow See the

Re: About the WikiMedia Foundation (WAS: Re: Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))))

2006-08-22 Thread Hex Star
oh I see, very interesting Your continued donations keep Wiktionary running! wow From Wiktionary Jump to: navigation, search Contents [hide] 1 English 1.1 Pronunciation 1.2 Interjection 1.2.1 Translations 1.3 Verb [edit] English [edit]

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: So if we use Ubuntu... ;) You should be drawn, quartered, stabbed, hung, shot and then REALLY hurt. Of course I'm the one with Mepis on my desktop. But in my defense Debian's on my laptop and router/file server. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who

Re: About the WikiMedia Foundation (WAS: Re: Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))))

2006-08-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:25:46PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote: Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wow See the Wikimedia Foundation for all the information you'll ever need. Especially useful

Re: About the WikiMedia Foundation (WAS: Re: Where'd wow come from (WAS:Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))))

2006-08-22 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:25:46PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0700, Hex Star wrote: Where did the word wow come from? Who invented it? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wow See the Wikimedia

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 21:33, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: So if we use Ubuntu... ;) You should be drawn, quartered, stabbed, hung, shot and then REALLY hurt. Of course I'm the one with Mepis on my desktop. But in my defense Debian's on my laptop and router/file

Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 19:52 -0500]: Spam to Gas pumping in Oregon to Whether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow! Profit!!! -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread CaT
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 07:00:09PM -0600, edwardsa wrote: He should get a clue, and you should get a life! If you look at this list over time, you will find a rich history of OT threads. They can be cathartic, offering another kind of support-- relief from boredom and a place to run your

Re: Off Topic Topics (WAS: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!))

2006-08-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 22:30, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 22 19:52 -0500]: Spam to Gas pumping in Oregon to Whether Off Topic Topics are Permitted Wow! Profit!!! The bridge went dark and the entire ship lurched, throwing

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Hal Vaughan wrote: I tried Mepis for a while. It was fine for the 1st six months or so, but once the testing and unstable got out of sync, I had more and more problems adding packages when I had to. I just got it because it had an easy install and installed decent video drivers. For

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Hex Star
On 8/22/06, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Or has Mepis gone to the Ubuntu repository now, like Libranet and some other distros did?)Not sure.Ubuntu's repositories are one of the reasons I don't like it.If Mepis went that way I'd be a sad panda. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Katipo
Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: It could be possible to use this list for what was created: Debian related questions *only*? the rest of the world will appreciate this very much... C'mon. Give everyone a

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Hex Star wrote: lol, referring to this panda? :P That'd be the one. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Katipo wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 22 August 2006 10:30, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: [snip] Nothing, even remotely close to the volumes generated by Americans and their contracted bodies in Korea and China. They

Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Shapiro
Paul Johnson wrote: The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for gas than neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive than hiring someone to sit in the kiosk and wrangle pumps, and the gas line moves faster since you're not having to wait behind

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for gas than neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive than hiring someone to sit in the kiosk and wrangle pumps, and the gas line

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:34:16 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote: I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being unused.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Patrick Rittich
Paul Johnson wrote: Go to Vancouver (WA or BC, either of them, doesn't matter). Or Seattle. There's usually a standing puddle of gasoline in front of at least one pump and the place reeks of gasoline by comparison to even a truck stop gas station in Oregon. This isn't to say that even the

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: The upswing day-to-day upswing is that we usually pay less for gas than neighboring states: Insurance for self service is more expensive than hiring someone

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:50, Jacob S wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:34:16 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 11:07, Marc Shapiro wrote: I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 16:48, Hal Vaughan wrote: Maybe the engineers who have jobs designing those things actually know more about what they're doing than we do? Even if that is the case, it's not going to stop me from getting gas at five or six in the morning anyway, the morning rush hour

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Matt Johnson
- Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 August, 2006 1:20:46 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) Usually a quick run through and the first few fills supervised to make sure

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone and only take thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines, right tank or not. But if you go to well-staffed high-volume stations like truck stops or stations off the beaten path like taxi stands, So

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, 22 August, 2006 1:20:46 AM Subject: Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!) [snip

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]: Actually, I have found that the lines are longer, here in Oregon, than when I lived elsewhere. I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get to sit in a long line and look at the other, empty lane, being unused. For those of us

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone and only take thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines, right tank or not. But if you go to well-staffed high-volume stations like truck

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
Self serve pay at the pump. Get in, get out. No fussing with attends, etc. I only buy my fuel at stations that have pay at the pump. - Nate -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Gnu-Raiz
Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: Snip Snip One major point he made about auto fuel was that it is stored in a tank that is, at least in VA, 15 feet or more underground, kept at a constant temperature and pressure, and that this effect the delivery much more than the air temperature.

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:29, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Depends on where you gas up, too. If you shop by price alone and only take thoroughfares, yeah, you're gonna hit long lines, right tank or not. But if you go to well-staffed high-volume stations like truck stops or

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Ron Johnson wrote: Oregonians don't sound very competent. The reason nobody actively fights it, and why all five petitions that made it to the ballot to overrule the DEQ and fire marshal on the self-service issue, largely has to do with getting gas cheaper than

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]: Actually, I have found that the lines are longer, here in Oregon, than when I lived elsewhere. I do not have a right hand gas tank, so I get to sit in a long line and look at

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Only if you want to get it at evening rush and have a lefthand tank. If you plan ahead and go in the morning or at lunch, usually there's a pump available at almost any station without a line no matter what side your filler neck faces. My point was right-hand and

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 21:50 -0500]: I also wonder about the poor farmers, who fills there tanks? If an exception exists for farmers, what qualifies as a farm? If I have say 2 acre's of land and want my own fuel tank can I qualify? Am I also allowed to have say ten ten

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gnu-Raiz wrote: Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote: Snip Snip One major point he made about auto fuel was that it is stored in a tank that is, at least in VA, 15 feet or more underground, kept at a constant temperature and pressure,

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nate Bargmann wrote: * Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 21:50 -0500]: [snip] NUTS! You went where I was wanting to go! I was thinking along the lines of what if I had the station jerk fill my jerry cans and then I go across the street

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Ron Johnson wrote: Oregonians don't sound very competent. The reason nobody actively fights it, and why all five petitions that made it to the ballot to overrule the DEQ and fire marshal on

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 19:01, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Aug 21 13:11 -0500]: [snip] Motorcyclists and scooters drivers have their choice for that reason. Though knowing how to pump gas

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: As far as gerrycans of fuel for your generator, I don't know if there are any regulations on that. No one said anything when we stock up on gerrycans preparing for Katrina. But Katrina didn't hit Oregon. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they

Re: Pumping Gas in Oregon (WAS: Re: Osama Bin Laden Take Over List!)

2006-08-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: As far as gerrycans of fuel for your generator, I don't know if there are any regulations on that. No one said anything when we stock up on gerrycans preparing for Katrina. But Katrina didn't hit