Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:49:12 -0500, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 18:33, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:13:20 +0800, csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 +0100,

Getting Totally [OT] was Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-28 Thread csj
At Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:47:46 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [...] ..WWII was won on 3 major factors: Russian (and Chechen!) blood, FDR's New Deal policy reforming US capitalism by banning it ;-), giving _all_ of American industry a fair deal on re-tool flexing, and, everybody knew _deep_ in

Re: Getting Totally [OT] was Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:29:15 +0800, csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:47:46 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [...] ..WWII was won on 3 major factors: Russian (and Chechen!) blood, FDR's New Deal policy reforming US capitalism by banning it

Re: Getting Totally [OT] was Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On hindsight a reformed Soviet Union probably wasn't a bad idea. Now we have all these little despots waging their little wars and sometimes getting smart-bombed for it. ..this notion or whatever, _might_ be worth a mention in http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/

Re: Getting Totally [OT] was Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:09:50 -0400, Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On hindsight a reformed Soviet Union probably wasn't a bad idea. Now we have all these little despots waging their little wars and sometimes getting smart-bombed

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 03:59:53PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:22:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread csj
At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:59:53 +0100, Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:22:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread csj
At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:44:57AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:26:05 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: If Swen is the shape of things to come, it's the

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread csj
At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:49:00 +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mailfilter? There are others: popsneaker

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:13:20 +0800, csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:44:57AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 22

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 18:33, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:13:20 +0800, csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:13:53 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying Subject: Congratulations: You've just won a million $$, I could always ask the sender to resend it. Any email which can't

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 08:20:34PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self said: on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:03:47PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've received far more invalid, than valid, C-R challenges. This is simply spam by another name.

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-26 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:22:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying Subject: Congratulations: You've just won a million $$, I

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-26 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mailfilter? -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Bob McElrath said: Wayne Gemmell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's as effective for reducing the bulk of your inbox as sending 550 executables not accepted, especially if you don't have control over the mail server and you match this virus with 100% accuracy. Either way, /dev/null or 550 after DATA

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Bob McElrath said: Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's as effective for reducing the bulk of your inbox as sending 550 executables not accepted, especially if you don't have control over the mail server and you match this virus with 100% accuracy. Either way, /dev/null

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob McElrath said: Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's as effective for reducing the bulk of your inbox as sending 550 executables not accepted, especially if you don't have control over the mail server and you match this

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Bob McElrath said: Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob McElrath said: Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's as effective for reducing the bulk of your inbox as sending 550 executables not accepted, especially if you don't have control over the mail server and

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob McElrath said: Darn, I was hoping (aren't we all) for a way to reject it before the whole thing is sent. You know...it wouldn't be hard to scan the input for the EXE header and close the connection as soon as it's seen. Then you'd only

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:44:57AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:26:05 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: If Swen is the shape of things to come, it's the end of dial-up POP3 mail accounts. There's a simple solution. Have the list munge the email addresses

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Bob McElrath said: Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob McElrath said: Darn, I was hoping (aren't we all) for a way to reject it before the whole thing is sent. You know...it wouldn't be hard to scan the input for the EXE header and close the connection as soon as it's seen. Then

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:42:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: [snip]

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:07:26AM +0200, Elie De Brauwer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't think that many isp's are concerned about the user-isp connection, who needs to pay extra for that ? It's the internet-isp connection that eats all the money. The isp will simply apply a quota,

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:49:00 +0300, Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mailfilter?

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:31:34 -0600 (MDT), Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If it's a real server, I thought that it would just try the connection again because it didn't get a yes 250 or a no 5xx or even a maybe later 3-4xx, and you might not want to

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:03:47PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a company that provides this service. First time emails to you get an auto-response You aren't authorized to send me email, visit this web page to get authorized or something like that. I Googled and

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:46:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 19:40, Joyce, Matthew wrote: Maybe this would be the future for e-mail, deny all but specified... It is probably (should be imo) the future of all computing. Permit this Permit

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Karsten M. Self said: on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:03:47PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a company that provides this service. First time emails to you get an auto-response You aren't authorized to send me email, visit this web page to get authorized or something

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mutt and telnet are my

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-25 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:22:33AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: 3) modify my attached ~/.mailfilterrc with your POP3 username and password details. The DENY rules to filter out viral crap are translated from posts by Greg Lehey and David Lloyd on the LinuxSA list. These rules are not

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread cr
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 12:38, Vineet Kumar wrote: * cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030920 20:47]: I love Kmail too, but I'm running 1.3.2 (the version that comes with Woody) and I'm not sure it offers that facility.I believe the newest version does, but when I installed it briefly

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Clive Menzies
On (24/09/03 04:22), Pigeon wrote: I've just found getting mailfilter up on woody to be a suitable means of passing the time while microwaving pizzas. It's dead easy: I think my pizza would be crisped by now ;) but thanks for this. Coincidentally, I was trying to confilgure mailfilter last night

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread John Hasler
Pigeon writes: apt-get install mailfilter - it only depends on libc, libstdc++ and debconf, so no baddies there. Mailfilter is not in Woody. I didn't try installing the deb from Unstable: just the source package. It has some source dependencies I didn't feel like bothering with. -- John

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Clive Menzies
On (24/09/03 07:43), John Hasler wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MS mail bombs From: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:43:10 -0500 Pigeon writes: apt-get install mailfilter - it only depends on libc, libstdc++ and debconf, so no baddies

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread csj
At Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:14:27 -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:52:20AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For telnet

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread John Hasler
Clive writes: I am not sure I agree with you You're right. Mailfilter is in Woody. I had forgotten that I had been mucking about with sources.list. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: MS mail bombs - This does work ;)

2003-09-24 Thread Clive Menzies
Apologies to Pigeon - this does work ;) On (24/09/03 11:48), Clive Menzies wrote: On (24/09/03 04:22), Pigeon wrote: I've just found getting mailfilter up on woody to be a suitable means of passing the time while microwaving pizzas. It's dead easy: I think my pizza would be crisped by now

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 07:43:10AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Pigeon writes: apt-get install mailfilter - it only depends on libc, libstdc++ and debconf, so no baddies there. Mailfilter is not in Woody. I didn't try installing the deb from Unstable: just the source package. It has some

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:48:43AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: On (24/09/03 04:22), Pigeon wrote: I've just found getting mailfilter up on woody to be a suitable means of passing the time while microwaving pizzas. It's dead easy: I think my pizza would be crisped by now ;) but thanks for

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Michael C.
In linux.debian.user, Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael C. wrote: I asked this on alt.os.linux. I was told to search freshmeat.net for a perl script called poppy. It will get headers only, and ask what you want to do with the mail one by one, but it also includes a script

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Bob McElrath
Wayne Gemmell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the weekend, and I the

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-24 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying Subject: Congratulations: You've just won a million $$, I could always ask the sender to resend it. On my system, that'd

Re: MS mail bombs - This does work ;)

2003-09-24 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 06:05:35PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: Apologies to Pigeon - this does work ;) Accepted :-) I have the SHOW_HEADERS option and being either stupid or inexperienced (you take your pick) didn't realise that it would show me all headers rather than just the deleted

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 21:25, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:46:45 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this kindred to C-R? No. It is C-R. At least the message they were replying to was. And wasn't there a big, long thread last month where most in the thread

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread kmark
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 02:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Wayne Topa
Ron Johnson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 20:28, John Hasler wrote: Wayne Gemmell writes: I can't see any solution to this. Downloading this amount of mail during the day would cost me a fortune *sniff* Set up fetchmail or mailfilter to delete

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Jacob Anawalt writes: There's a company that provides this service. First time emails to you get an auto-response You aren't authorized to send me email, visit this web page to get authorized or something like that. I Googled and can't find it again. Interesting idea. I've received spam

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Wayne writes: With fetchmail and mailfilter, it is. It is possible with fetchmail alone, though at a small risk of loss of mail. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:26:42 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And wasn't there a big, long thread last month where most in the thread excoriated C-R? Yup. Which goes to show that these people clearly didn't read it, don't care, or are just plain stupid. I vote for all three.

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Ron Johnson said: On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 02:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:11:48 -0500, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wayne writes: With fetchmail and mailfilter, it is. It is possible with fetchmail alone, though at a small risk of loss of mail. ..case in point: fetchmail: 5.9.11 querying pop.net

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mutt and telnet are my favourite programs. For mutt simply run: mutt -f pop://pop.server.com then it will ask you for username and

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 12:31, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:26:42 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And wasn't there a big, long thread last month where most in the thread excoriated C-R? Yup. Which goes to show that these people clearly didn't read it, don't

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:10:42 +0200, Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:11:48 -0500, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wayne writes: With fetchmail and mailfilter, it is. It is possible with

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030920 20:41]: My only wish is that I knew exiscan-acl well enough to figure out if I could have a custom script run upon a positive hit. In doing so have the infected IP automatically added to Shorewall's blacklist. It would also Don't deny the initial

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Vineet Kumar
* cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030920 20:47]: I love Kmail too, but I'm running 1.3.2 (the version that comes with Woody) and I'm not sure it offers that facility.I believe the newest version does, but when I installed it briefly (with RedHat 9, before I switched to Debian) it warned me

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Vineet Kumar
* csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030921 15:54]: This delete-before-download feature can be done by other, stand alone applications applications: popsneaker, popcheck, pop surgeon, pop browser, Save My Modem. mail filter, and for those with the fortitude, telnet. mutt is good at this, too. You can

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check popservers before fetchmail'ing? mutt and telnet are my

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:49:33 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I stopped reading the thread soon after the acrimony started flying. Calling people stupid without a valid reason is pretty much *wrong*. Given the verbage written about C-R and the problems it causes one has to

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Wayne Topa
Arnt Karlsen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:11:48 -0500, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wayne writes: With fetchmail and mailfilter, it is. It is possible with fetchmail alone, though at a small risk of loss

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:52:20AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For telnet simply run: telnet pop.server.com 110 USER username PASS password LIST TOP number (to show only the

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread John Hasler
Wayne writes: I guess you could use fetchmail to weed them out but I found that spending time on the DENY rules in mailfilter was better spent. Fetchmail can be used alone to delete oversize mails on the server. I do so because I am too lazy to get mailfilter up on Woody. -- John Hasler

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Michael D Schleif
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:09:23:21:18:48-0500] scribed: Wayne writes: I guess you could use fetchmail to weed them out but I found that spending time on the DENY rules in mailfilter was better spent. Fetchmail can be used alone to delete oversize mails on the server. I do so

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:14:27 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:52:20AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:02:20 -0400, Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: Fetchmail can be used alone to delete oversize mails on the server. I do so because I am too lazy to get mailfilter up on Woody. mds writes: What do you do about legitimate attachments sent to you? Legitimate attachments of over 140k in size are rarely sent to me. For the time

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:18:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Wayne writes: I guess you could use fetchmail to weed them out but I found that spending time on the DENY rules in mailfilter was better spent. Fetchmail can be used alone to delete oversize mails on the server. I do so because

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:26:42 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And wasn't there a big, long thread last month where most in the thread excoriated C-R? Yup. Which goes to show that these people clearly didn't read it, don't care, or are just plain stupid. I

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:00 -0600 Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they gave up early on it due to content. I just forced myself to drudge through the whole of it. Lots of good ideas and reasons to not use C-R* from the I'll take it all to not miss one email camp. Easier to

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:12:40 -0500 Legitimate attachments of over 140k in size are rarely sent to me. For the time being if any are I'll lose them. When the current worm storm abates I will stop the deletion. When? Ladies and gents, we have an optimist in the house. :) --

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:00 -0600 Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they gave up early on it due to content. I just forced myself to drudge through the whole of it. Lots of good ideas and reasons to not use C-R* from the I'll take it all to not miss one email

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-23 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:50 -0600 Jacob Anawalt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While reading that certainly clarified the woes of the challenge-response system, I'm unsure if it would have cleared me of your charges since they said to read the thread: Touche'. I think that reading the essay

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Monday 22 September 2003 07:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: The other way is a neat little trick I use on my ISP account- limit the size of

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: [snip] If Swen is the shape of things to come, it's the end of dial-up POP3 mail accounts.

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Olav Lavell
Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: [snip] If Swen is the shape of

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:09:53 +0200 Olav Lavell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: What's going to happen (nay, *is* happening) is that ISPs are starting to offer spam virus filtering. Yeah, but for a fee... ...and even then it is very poor spam and

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:09, Olav Lavell wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:19, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:09:53 +0200 Olav Lavell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: What's going to happen (nay, *is* happening) is that ISPs are starting to offer spam virus filtering. Yeah, but for

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Monday 22 September 2003 10:09, Olav Lavell wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Monday 22 September 2003 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:09, Olav Lavell wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:07, Elie De Brauwer wrote: On Monday 22 September 2003 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:09, Olav Lavell wrote: Op ma 22-09-2003, om 09:42 schreef Ron Johnson: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Wayne Gemmell
Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the weekend, and I the last 12 hours I recieved another 10Mb. I have a

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread csj
At Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:26:05 +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: The other way is a neat little trick I use on my ISP account- limit the size of

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 16:07, Wayne Gemmell wrote: Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the weekend,

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread daniel
Wayne Gemmell wrote: Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the weekend, and I the last 12 hours I recieved

RE: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Joyce, Matthew
Maybe this would be the future for e-mail, deny all but specified... -- -daniel It is probably (should be imo) the future of all computing. Permit this Permit that Deny everything else -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Wayne Gemmell([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Walt L. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming is increasing exponentially. I recieved 10Mb of mail over the

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Jacob Anawalt
daniel said: Wayne Gemmell wrote: [snip] I can't see any solution to this. Downloading this amount of mail during the day would cost me a fortune *sniff* Maybe it sounds drastic but I even thought of making some type of acl of who can send me e-mail and deny the rest with a msg of If you

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread John Hasler
Wayne Gemmell writes: I can't see any solution to this. Downloading this amount of mail during the day would cost me a fortune *sniff* Set up fetchmail or mailfilter to delete messages over 140k on the server. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To

RE: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 19:40, Joyce, Matthew wrote: Maybe this would be the future for e-mail, deny all but specified... -- -daniel It is probably (should be imo) the future of all computing. Permit this Permit that Deny everything else Isn't this kindred to C-R? --

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 20:28, John Hasler wrote: Wayne Gemmell writes: I can't see any solution to this. Downloading this amount of mail during the day would cost me a fortune *sniff* Set up fetchmail or mailfilter to delete messages over 140k on the server. Is that possible with

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-22 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:46:45 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this kindred to C-R? No. It is C-R. At least the message they were replying to was. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El sábado, 20 de septiembre de 2003, a las 21:03, Ron Johnson escribe: There goes Britany kissing Madonna... Did she? I should watch more TV... What about Justin? Regards, Ismael -- Tout fourmille de commentaries; d'auteurs il en est grande cherté signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread kmark
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 21:18, Carla Schroder wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 2:27 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: The other way is a neat little trick I use on my ISP account- limit the size of messages to download, I limit them to 2000 bytes. You

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 04:39, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: El sábado, 20 de septiembre de 2003, a las 21:03, Ron Johnson escribe: There goes Britany kissing Madonna... Did she? I should watch more TV... What about Justin? It was all over the talk shows that B kissed M at some award show.

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread Alexander Winston
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 08:05, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 04:39, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: El sbado, 20 de septiembre de 2003, a las 21:03, Ron Johnson escribe: There goes Britany kissing Madonna... Did she? I should watch more TV... What about Justin? It was all

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2003, a las 08:28, Alexander Winston escribe: The 20th MTV Video Music Awards, but isn't this getting off-topic? :) Yes, but, we were talking about spam, thus, all this horny teens lesbian action is on-topic. xD Regards, Ismael -- Tout fourmille de commentaries;

Re: MS mail bombs

2003-09-21 Thread Alexander Winston
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 09:26, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: El domingo, 21 de septiembre de 2003, a las 08:28, Alexander Winston escribe: The 20th MTV Video Music Awards, but isn't this getting off-topic? :) Yes, but, we were talking about spam, thus, all this horny teens lesbian action is

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