Re: Bug in 'more' command

> (I do use less, FWIW). FWIW, I do use less more as well, but I also use more, tho less so. Stefan

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 03:45:44PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 10:26:33AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more? > > > > If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to dis

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 16:49:20 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Some people have habits ingrained over 40 years, more or less. > > This could be the next big emacs vs vi religious debate. More or less. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.c

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:20 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more? > > If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to discard > it. > > Some people have habits ingrained over 40 years, more or less. This

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Hi all, Am 16.10.2024 um 16:45 schrieb Chris Green: On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 10:26:33AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Chris Green wrote: Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more? If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to discard it. Some people have hab

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed 16 Oct 2024 at 10:38:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:14:20 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:48:07 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Exporting MORE set to some unknown option (I did MORE=-q) leads to > > >

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 10:26:33AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > > > Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more? > > If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to discard > it. > > Some people have habits ingrained over 40 years, more or

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Chris Green wrote: > > Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more? If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to discard it. Some people have habits ingrained over 40 years, more or less. -dsr-

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:14:20 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:48:07 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Exporting MORE set to some unknown option (I did MORE=-q) leads to > > > more complaining and refusing service (so it seems to behave as if >

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:48:07 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Exporting MORE set to some unknown option (I did MORE=-q) leads to > > more complaining and refusing service (so it seems to behave as if > > one passed that option directly in the command line). > > D'oh!

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Greg Wooledge (12024-10-16): > I still think that *conditionally* exporting MORE=-e (after performing > whatever version-number-checking backflips are needed) Do not check the version number, check if the option is supported: if more -e /dev/null; then MORE=-e export MORE fi Regards, --

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 09:54:32AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:48:07 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Exporting MORE set to some unknown option (I did MORE=-q) leads to > > more complaining and refusing service (so it seems to behave as if > > one passed that option d

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:48:07 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Exporting MORE set to some unknown option (I did MORE=-q) leads to > more complaining and refusing service (so it seems to behave as if > one passed that option directly in the command line). D'oh! What a disaster. OK, now I have

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 09:41:41AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:34:51 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > > $ ls|more -e > > more: unknown option -e > > Try 'more --help' for more information. > > > > I included the reason in my post by listing the Linux environments I use > >

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 15:34:51 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > $ ls|more -e > more: unknown option -e > Try 'more --help' for more information. > > I included the reason in my post by listing the Linux environments I use > and where I expect this to work. Interestingly the man page for more in > Deb

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Greg Wooledge writes: > Why did you make it so complicated? What's wrong with simply: > > alias l='ls -lF|more -e' > > or perhaps: > > export MORE=-e > alias l='ls -lF|more' $ ls|more -e more: unknown option -e Try 'more --help' for more information. I included the reason in my pos

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 3:40 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: >> For additional (and _possibly_ interesting) context, this >> isn't a Debian-specific change. It's part of the upstream >> util-linux-2.38 release¹. It was submitted to the >> util-linux mailing list in 2021² and ref

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 3:40 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the > > behavior of the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 > > has the annoying habit, upon reaching end of the file, of > > displaying extra empty lines

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On 15/10/2024 11:06, Todd Zullinger wrote: For additional (and _possibly_ interesting) context, this isn't a Debian-specific change. It's part of the upstream util-linux-2.38 release¹. It was submitted to the util-linux mailing list in 2021² and referenced the POSIX specification as the ration

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 16:01:41 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > For decades, I've had an alias like this: > > alias l="ls -lF|more" > > Convenient, no pager unless the directory listing is long. And now it's > become this code: > > more_version=$(more --version|awk '{print $4}'|cut -d. -f1-2) > if

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Jim Anderson writes: > One time usage is not bad, but if you use 'more' often, as I do, this > behavior is a repeating waste of time. I hope the developers will > revert to the traditional behavior. I doubt that but who knows. For decades, I've had an alias like this: alias l="ls -lF|more" C

Re: Bug in 'more' command

Jim Anderson wrote: > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the > behavior of the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 > has the annoying habit, upon reaching end of the file, of > displaying extra empty lines to fill a terminal window, > then inserting the text: > >   (END)

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 15:09:48 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 14:38:36 (-0400), Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the behavior of > > the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 has the annoying habit, > > upon reaching end of the

Re: Bug in 'more' command

On Mon 14 Oct 2024 at 14:38:36 (-0400), Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the behavior of > the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 has the annoying habit, > upon reaching end of the file, of displaying extra empty lines to fill > a terminal windo

Re: BUG in Debian SID

On Thursday, 01-08-2024 at 02:54 Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > Hi, > > > I did further test on VirtualBox and on KVM. > > VirtualBox on Linux somehow blocks IPv6 in bridged mode of the network > configuration, so I created VM on KVM in bridged mode of the network > > brctl addbr bri0 > > brct

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, I did further test on VirtualBox and on KVM. VirtualBox on Linux somehow blocks IPv6 in bridged mode of the network configuration, so I created VM on KVM in bridged mode of the network brctl addbr bri0 brctl addif bri0 eth1 ifconfig bri0 up connected cable rj45, because we cannot add

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, I did another test, on fresh Debian 12.6 on Virtualbox where IPv6 works I did the following: I added on line to sources.lists deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free-firmware and removed all other entries. Then I did apt update apt full-upgrade and after installa

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Łukasz, I wanted to do another try, but this time stay with the initial Debian installation, that is not alter /etc/network/interfaces file. So this time I just built Bookworm, then upgraded to Sid. Good news is I still cannot replicate your issue. Hopefully the issue was because of the non si

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Łukasz, You do need to remove (comment out) all sources (e.g. bookworm/trixie) and only leave sid.  This may solve your issue. After creating a VM using Virt-Manager, I do get a ipv6 address, and I do not get the message  "Link local ipv6 for interface is not configured" when checking journalctl

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, I had besides sid also trixie sources but I bet that with only sid the result will be the same. Could you try to reproduce on VirtualBox at your side. You do not need dhcpv6 server. In normal behavior you should get timeout, but this bug will cause quick end with error from the first post. Be

Re: BUG in Debian SID

OK, I will give that a try and post back. George. On Wednesday, 31-07-2024 at 18:15 Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: Hi, Are you able to reproduce at your side? You can verify this on VirtualBox even without DHCPv6 server. In normal circumstances you should get timeout on dhclient but the BUG cau

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, Are you able to reproduce at your side? You can verify this on VirtualBox even without DHCPv6 server. In normal circumstances you should get timeout on dhclient but the BUG causes that Debian should end immediately without timeout and with the error mentioned in the first post in syslog. So ar

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Łukasz, I wonder if the issue is that you are missing "non-free-firmware" which provides the non-free drivers for things like sound, network and WiFI devices? (Hopefully you only have 'sid' sources and no sources for other versions, for example 'bookworm' or 'backports') It could help to at l

Re: BUG in Debian SID

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 08:33:28AM +0200, Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > Hi, > > I added only this to sources list: > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free > > and nothing else > > Best regards, > Łukasz > So that was the _only_ line in your /etc/apt/sources.list at that p

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, Yes I tried that also with the same result. Best regards, Łukasz śr., 31 lip 2024 o 01:09 Jeffrey Walton napisał(a): > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:00 PM Łukasz Kalamłacki > wrote: > > > > > > I detected and issue with Debian SID and DHCP for IPv6. > > > > In my network I use DHCPv6 server w

Re: BUG in Debian SID

Hi, I added only this to sources list: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free and nothing else Best regards, Łukasz śr., 31 lip 2024 o 00:50 George at Clug napisał(a): > > > On Wednesday, 31-07-2024 at 06:01 Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > I detected and

Re: BUG in Debian SID

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:00 PM Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > > > I detected and issue with Debian SID and DHCP for IPv6. > > In my network I use DHCPv6 server which works fine on stable versions of > Debian or Trixie but when I add to sources.list sid source and do update > and upgrade I get and err

Re: BUG in Debian SID

On Wednesday, 31-07-2024 at 06:01 Łukasz Kalamłacki wrote: > Hello, > > > I detected and issue with Debian SID and DHCP for IPv6. > > > In my network I use DHCPv6 server which works fine on stable versions of > Debian or Trixie but when I add to sources.list sid source and do update Pleas

Re: Bug Report

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 05:49:47AM GMT, Richard Bostrom wrote: > /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography It isn't supposed to. You may block specific domains by adding lines like 0.0.0.0www.google.com in /etc/hosts. The second part is the domain to block, the first is the IP add

Re: Bug Report

On 16/07/2024 15:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Richard Bostrom wrote: Bug in my opinion. /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography [...] I'd put it in other words: DNS doesn't serve porn :-) Are you sure that no troll have put some funny ASCII-art in their txt records? And /etc/resol

Re: Bug Report

On 7/16/24 02:06, Richard Bostrom wrote: Bug in my opinion. /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography That is not its job. Yours sincerely Richardh Bostrom Sent with Proton Mail secure email. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in

Re: Bug Report

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 03:32:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Richard Bostrom wrote: > > Bug in my opinion. > > > > /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography > > > /etc/resolv.conf is where you configure one or more DNS servers. > Three is usually optimal. > > If you choose DNS servers t

Re: Bug Report

Richard Bostrom wrote: > Bug in my opinion. > > /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography /etc/resolv.conf is where you configure one or more DNS servers. Three is usually optimal. If you choose DNS servers that resolve everything, you get everything. If you choose DNS servers run by cen

Re: Bug?

On 7/14/24 00:57, Richard Bostrom wrote: Executing this script halts it after the tar with the following message. -- #!/bin/sh tar -zcvf bak.tar.gz /home/user/Documents && gpg -r backup@user.local -e bak.tar.gz && rm -rf bak.tar.gz && rsync -vac --delete /home/user/Documents/bak.tar.gz.gpg /medi

Re: Bug?

Richard Bostrom (12024-07-14): > tar -zcvf bak.tar.gz /home/user/Documents && Information missing: what is the current directory. > gpg -r backup@user.local -e bak.tar.gz && > rm -rf bak.tar.gz && > rsync -vac --delete /home/user/Documents/bak.tar.gz.gpg /media/user/6548-2136 > &&rm -rf bak.tar

Re: Bug processo di installazione debian 32 bit

вс, 30 июн. 2024 г. в 17:23, Uno Qualsiasi : > > Buongiorno vi contatto per segnalare un problema nel processo di > installazione di debian 12.5.0 dvd iso 32 bit, ossia che quando arriva al > momento di eseguire “grub-install” su disco primario mi fa errore. Su > qualsiasi pf 32 bit lo provi è f

Re: Bug processo di installazione debian 32 bit

On 30 Jun 2024 09:11 +0200, from unoqualsiasi...@icloud.com (Uno Qualsiasi): > Buongiorno vi contatto per segnalare un problema nel processo di > installazione di debian 12.5.0 dvd iso 32 bit, ossia che quando arriva al > momento di eseguire “grub-install” su disco primario mi fa errore. Su > qu

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On 30/01/2024 12:50, David Wright wrote: On 30/01/2024 02:51, David Wright wrote: . Press HOME, . Type any letter that makes a "wrong" command name (eg aokular), . Press END, [...] However, using my "wrong" command method, Tab Tab lists are complete all the way down the path. You can then corr

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 10:34:21 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/01/2024 02:51, David Wright wrote: > > . Press HOME, > > . Type any letter that makes a "wrong" command name (eg aokular), > > . Press END, > > The escape "Esc /" workaround has been posted in this thread already. Yes, I believe I

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On 30/01/2024 02:51, David Wright wrote: . Press HOME, . Type any letter that makes a "wrong" command name (eg aokular), . Press END, The escape "Esc /" workaround has been posted in this thread already. It uses built-in readline path completion instead of BASH programmable completion. It may

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On 1/29/24 20:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: complete -r isn't intended as a workaround. It's intended as a diagnostic step. Seeing the problem go away when completion goes away means that the problem is *in* the completion. Thus, he knows which package to file a bug report against. Yes, I underst

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 01:51:19PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 19:31:50 (+0100), Michael Kiermaier wrote: > > Thank you for your responses! After 'complete -r' the problem > > disappears. I should add that I never touched the autocomplete settings. > > No, but you lose your

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 19:31:50 (+0100), Michael Kiermaier wrote: > On 1/29/24 18:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Let me test that as well > > > [...] > > > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On 1/29/24 18:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: Let me test that as well [...] unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes a

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 12:59:39 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Let me test that as well > > [...] > > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file > > > > "okular" is important h

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Let me test that as well > [...] > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file > > "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes are > allowed for some commands

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: Let me test that as well [...] unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes are allowed for some commands. You do not need to have okular installed, completion rules are part of

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 07:40:13 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Michael Kiermaier wrote: > > I would like to run okular opening the pdf file > > ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/dir2/file.pdf > > via command line. In konsole I type > > okular ~/dir1\ with\ b

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Michael Kiermaier wrote: > I would like to run okular opening the pdf file > ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/dir2/file.pdf > via command line. In konsole I type > okular ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/ > and hit the tab key twice for autocomplete. But I won't get

Re: Bug on upgrade to bookworm with Apache/PHP?

On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 17:50:03 + Andrew Wood wrote: > Found the following issue when running an upgrade. > > Apache refuses to restart with error: > > apache2_reload: Your configuration is broken. Not restarting Apache 2 > apache2_reload: apache2: Syntax error on line 146 of > /etc/apache2/a

Re: Bug on upgrade to bookworm with Apache/PHP?

Andrew Wood wrote: > This is because the php7.4 files have now been replaced with php8.2 > > Specifically sym linsk in  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ which link to  > /etc/apache2/mods-available/ > php7.4.conf -> ../mods-available/php7.4.conf > php7.4.load -> ../mods-available/php7.4.load > > Shoul

Re: Bug report

Iman Hajibagheri wrote: > Hello > My laptop model is asus zenbook duo ux481 and I installed ubuntu desktop > After installation, when I log in to my account for the first time, a > welcome to ubuntu tab appears. I click on the help improve ubuntu section. > My laptop stops after the yes option and

Re: Bug#1056998: cdrom: Installation media changes after booting it

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 3:30 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > . > This seems to indicate that the firmware has a stake in the problem ... > > > Both the Thinkpad E14 Gen 5s had the same specifications and type number, > > differing only in that the one with corruption of the installer has 24GB > of >

Re: bug report

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 11:13:44AM +, Sarah Marsh wrote: > I am emailing to find information on how to file a bug report with Debian. https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting > I received a message on my command line to file a report for the issue that I > am having with the command line and the

Re: bug report question

On Sep 07, 2023, duh_gently...@simplelogin.com wrote: > Thank you for your advice! No problem. > > lspci says: > 00:01.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models > 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge Okay so it's the root PCI bridge on the motherboard. Are there any BIOS/UEFI upd

Re: bug report question

Thank you for your advice! lspci says: 00:01.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge The only 2 PCIe devices I have are my video card and my m.2 drive. I have had different kernel versions as I have had this problem for at least 6 months (

Re: bug report question

On Sep 07, 2023, duh_gently...@simplelogin.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to submit a bug, but I'm not quite sure which package it > should be. > I could not find anything similar in the bugtracker. > > The problem occurs every 10-20 times. After the system has been suspended > and then resumed

Re: Bug with audio muting - which package?

пн, 5 июн. 2023 г. в 05:36, Paul Martz : > If I mute audio in the desktop, then reboot into console mode, the SpeakUp > screen reading software is also muted. I think this is a bug - muting the > desktop should be a desktop property and should not affect the console screen > reader. But I’m not

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 23:05:53 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/04/2023 11:26, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure > > > if it is possible to complete installation with

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 21/04/2023 11:26, David Wright wrote: On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure if it is possible to complete installation with no ESP at all. If you mean: to install Grub but not write to the ESP, No,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure > if it is possible to complete installation with no ESP at all. If you mean: to install Grub but not write to the ESP, I think you can do this by saying Yes to: ┌──

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/15/23 15:51, David Christensen wrote: > "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install" On 18/04/2023 15:51, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/23 21:47, David Wright wrote: As in "Permission to break an egg, sir"? Did not pressing Enter in reply to "Install" imply something? d-i

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 18/04/2023 11:47, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, in computer engineering and science terms, the design and implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Tuesday 18 April 2023 12:47:44 am David Wright wrote: > > I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, > > in computer engineering and science terms, the design and > > implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD, or > > Windows, or macOS) for all the pos

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/17/23 21:47, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, in computer engineering and science terms, the design and implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD, or

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/17/23 07:41, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > > On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > On 4/16/23 03:41,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/17/23 03:35, Max Nikulin wrote: My point is that UEFI and MBR install may have different behavior. You might underestimate role of implicit conventions and agreements. I used to think that d-i would inform me and get my permission before making changes to my computer. It is unfortuna

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/17/23 07:41, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" S

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a ho

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 17/04/2023 15:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer ... The SSD

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer and configured BIOS Setup: "Boot" -> "UEFI Boot" -> "E

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer and configured BIOS Setup: "Boot" -> "UEFI Boot" -> "Enable" The SSD would not boot. New

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: I installed a 2.5" SATA SSD, inserted a debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst CD, booted the CD, and installed Debian: "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install" ... "Partitioning method" -> "Manua

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: I installed a 2.5" SATA SSD, inserted a debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst CD, booted the CD, and installed Debian:     "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install"     ...     "Partitioning method" -> "Manual" -> <2.5" SATA SSD> Perhaps at thi

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer? S.W.A.G.

7My reason for suggesting changing debconf priority to low was that perhaps additional questions might have uncovered some strangeness in the installer. It was not intended to fix this bug but only as a means to further analyze the bug. Apparently those on this list failed to understand but that'

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer? S.W.A.G.

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:09:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:37:54PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:20:58PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > [1] I needed a websearch on S.W.A.G. Did find > > > - Sharing Warmth Around the Globe > >

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

d-i makes no distinction between nvme and usb. Maybe another problem is the chosen installation destination might not be passed to the code that does the grub install. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed How

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 15:51:46 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/15/23 02:36, Andrew Wood wrote: > > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick > > to do an install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a > > 'portable PC'. > > > > When it got to the Grub insta

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 03:37:54 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > I think it's either "Stupid Wild-Ass Guess" or "Silly Wild-Ass Guess". In my experience (and usage) it was "Scientific Wild Ass Guess". -- rhk | No entity has permission to use this email to train an AI.

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 4/15/23 02:36, Andrew Wood wrote: Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do an install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a 'portable PC'. When it got to the Grub install stage I was expecting it to ask me which disk I wanted Grub installed on as it h

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:20:58PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > [1] I needed a websearch on S.W.A.G. Did find > - Sharing Warmth Around the Globe > - Sealed With A Gift > - Stolen Without A Gun > - So What? Another Giveaway? > - Sub-Watershed Advisory Group > - Some Women Are Great > - Souvenir

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 06:24:34PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > On 15/04/2023 18:20, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:02:02AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > > > >

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

You've never seen debian main menu in the installer. That's selection 19 on that main menu and selection 21 helps big time with debugging since you choose that to save log files and selection 3 under that will save logs to /var/log/installer directory. Two ways to get to main menu. First and slo

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 15/04/2023 18:20, Geert Stappers wrote: Time will tell if original poster shares information on whether or not if priority for debian-install was changed. Nothing was changed. I dont even know what that is. Ive installed Debian on many  systems over the past 12 years and have never alter

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:02:02AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > > > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do > > > an > > > install (AMD64/UEFI) on another

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On 15/04/2023 14:12, Geert Stappers wrote: Way before "grub install" should have been asked On which disk to install I do read "two devices were effected", I think it is the same error of On which disk to install If you mean did it install Debian on the NVme ssd then no, the

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

A s.w.a.g. here. Priority of questions asked was not set to low in the main menu. I routinely change that to low when doing a debian install and preserve logs for future reference. Default priority if memory serves is medium. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soa

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do an > install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a 'portable PC'. > > When it got to the Grub install stage I was expecting it to ask me which > disk I wa

Re: quite the end of an era: Re: Bug#931659: transition: rm python2

Greg wrote: >On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:42:31PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, songbird wrote: >> >> > kudoes to everyone who helped with this in getting it done, finding >> > bugs, fixing problems, converting code, updating docs and testing. :) >> > >> >> What does debian u

Re: quite the end of an era: Re: Bug#931659: transition: rm python2

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:42:31PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, songbird wrote: > > > kudoes to everyone who helped with this in getting it done, finding > > bugs, fixing problems, converting code, updating docs and testing. :) > > > > What does debian use for moinmoin? Is

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