Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-08 Thread Robbi Nespu
Where you saw the information? I suggest to use app password instead of real password. It also easy to identify if the apps we use misbehave and grant specific permissions. -- Regards Robbi Nespu PGP: D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-07 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 6 Mar 2022 at 15:41, Brian wrote: > I came across Disroot (disroot.org) the other day. Looks interesting > and worth considering. I've been using disroot for some time now for personal email (work is Exchange unfortunately with 2FA which I access by using davmail). Disroot works very w

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
writes: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: >> 황병희 writes: >> >> > Douglas McGarrett writes: >> > >> >> [...] >> >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug >> > >> > Yes it is

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 12:26:19PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > 황병희 writes: > > > Douglas McGarrett writes: > > > >> [...] > >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. > >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > > > Yes it is locked os. By the way

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread 황병희
황병희 writes: > Douglas McGarrett writes: > >> [...] >> I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. >> I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug > > Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux > kernel. So i love chromebook.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Richmond
Marc Auslander writes: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, > supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have > to. > > So what suggestions does anyo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
For someone that have same problem as mine, "Token has been expired or revoked" in Gmail OAuth2 authentication method each seven days, I found a how to by pass this one: https://stackoverflow.com/a/67966982/1461165 -- Marcelo

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, John Hasler wrote: Marcelo Laia wrote: Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google

Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Mar 2022 at 06:40:07 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > Find another mail host. > > > > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? > > I tend towards smaller, but established local providers.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 6 Mar 2022, Marcelo Laia wrote: we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this, b

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Marcelo Laia wrote: > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I use pobox.com . My wife uses the email service that comes with our Web site on Gandi. Both are quite satisfactory. Unlike some others I don't consider Google "evil". They're just an advertising agen

Re: Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread Marcelo Laia
> we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. Thank you! Look at posteo and mailbox plans. I have been looked at protonMail.com. What I need is IMAP and SMTP for offline uses. I plan to continue use offlineimap + msmtp + mutt for a long time. GMail offers this, but, after OAuth2 implementation, token exp

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-06 Thread tv.debian
Le 06/03/2022 à 06:40, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: Find another mail host. Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I tend towards smaller, but established local providers. For example, around here, i

Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 05, 2022 at 11:22:40PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > Find another mail host. > > Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I tend towards smaller, but established local providers. For example, around here, in Germany we have posteo.de or mailbox.org. The

Re: Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Marcelo Laia
> Find another mail host. Have you, or someone else, a suggestion for one alternative for Gmail? I have been used mutt + offlineimap + msmtp for a long years (before I have been used Sylpheed). Both, offlineimap and msmtp, can use OAUTH2. The problem remains that day by day the token expires and

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread 황병희
Douglas McGarrett writes: > [...] > I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. > I'm not looking for a Chromebook, but I'm curious. --doug Yes it is locked os. By the way chromebook runs on coreboot and linux kernel. So i love chromebook. Thanks for feedback! Si

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Ash Joubert
On 06/03/2022 12:33, Brian wrote: Should the above removal of support turm out to be the case, it takes only a moment to have mail forwarded elsewhere to be picked up. Indeed, but you will lose the ability to send email from your Gmail address via Gmail SMTP. Kind regards, -- Ash Joubert D

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Mar 2022 at 11:54:28 +1300, Ash Joubert wrote: > On 06/03/2022 02:26, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 04 Mar 2022 at 10:59:45 -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > > > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > > > authentication for apps. > > Google's email has > >> On 30 M

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Douglas McGarrett wrote: > > > On 3/4/22 22:50, 황병희 wrote: > > > Yours for a Google-free world... > > Well i like very much chromebook. Currently i'm using Debian 11 > > Bullseye under chromebook ^^^ > > > > Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee > > > > I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Ash Joubert
On 06/03/2022 02:26, Brian wrote: On Fri 04 Mar 2022 at 10:59:45 -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password authentication for apps. Google's email has > On 30 May, you may lose... That's "may", not "will". [...] There isn't any indication

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Douglas McGarrett
On 3/4/22 22:50, 황병희 wrote: Yours for a Google-free world... Well i like very much chromebook. Currently i'm using Debian 11 Bullseye under chromebook ^^^ Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee I thought Chromebook was a locked OS that you could not modify or add to. I'm not looking for a Chromeb

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Mar 2022 at 10:59:45 -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, supports > OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have to

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread 황병희
> Yours for a Google-free world... Well i like very much chromebook. Currently i'm using Debian 11 Bullseye under chromebook ^^^ Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _救濟蒼生_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread 황병희
> So what suggestions does anyone have for dealing with OAUTH2 access to > gmail? Just i did make app password (a 16-digit passcode). Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _救濟蒼生_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread dmacdoug
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 10:59:45AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, supports > OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Mar 2022 at 21:20:29 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 11:39:36AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > [...] > > > Yours for a Google-free world... > > +1 Please don't be silly :). -- Brain.

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 4 March 2022 15:20:29 EST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 11:39:36AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > [...] > > > Yours for a Google-free world... > > +1 > > Cheers > -- > t one is not enough Tomas. 10, 100, maybe even a thousand+. They exist only to sell your talk

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 11:39:36AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: [...] > Yours for a Google-free world... +1 Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Fri Mar 4 11:30:12 2022 Christian Britz wrote: > On 2022-03-04 18:30 UTC+0100, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > Find another mail host. > > And you could find a mail client which correctly replies to messages. > ;-) Actually, I'm not reading this list with a mail client at all; I read its Usenet ec

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread mick crane
On 2022-03-04 15:59, Marc Auslander wrote: Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password authentication for apps. I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if I have to. So what suggestions doe

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-03-04 18:30 UTC+0100, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Find another mail host. And you could find a mail client which correctly replies to messages. ;-) -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Fri Mar 4 09:25:02 2022 Marc Auslander wrote: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/password > authentication for apps. > > I use fetchmail and exim4 to get and send mail. Neither, AFAIK, > supports OAUTH2. I'm also still on stretch but will update if > I have to. > > So

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 4 Mar 2022 at 10:59, Marc Auslander wrote: > So what suggestions does anyone have for dealing with OAUTH2 access to > gmail? I'm using davmail [http://davmail.sourceforge.net/] for this with Outlook exchange servers as the one I have to use has also moved to oauth2 access only. I switc

Re: Google smtp and pop

2022-03-04 Thread Christian Britz
I userd getmail instead of fetchmail in the past, and a quick web search reveals that it seems to support OAUTH2: https://www.bytereef.org/howto/oauth2/getmail.html. Regards, Christian On 2022-03-04 16:59 UTC+0100, Marc Auslander wrote: > Google has now said they are pulling the plug on userid/p