Re: IRC stuff (was: bitchx (sucks!))

1999-03-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 03:40:22PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I would try talking to them, inviting them to participate in whatever the channels mission is, what else could I do? Then you don't understand the nature of these people. It is like going into alt.nuke-the-usa (I think that is

Re: IRC stuff (was: bitchx (sucks!))

1999-03-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:16:08 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Then you don't understand the nature of these people. It is like going into alt.nuke-the-usa (I think that is it) and trying to rationally discuss topics with anyone there. No, it

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read. But for a new IRC user they sure confusing. I have been trying to Window it but, as of yet, no luck. Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately that's like saying MS Office

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: bitchx (sucks!) Date: Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:45:18PM -0600 In reply to:steven walsh Quoting steven walsh([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BitchX suffers from it's own unique form of feature creep. Use IRCII with a nice

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
steven walsh dixit: On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read. But for a new IRC user they sure confusing. I have been trying to Window it but, as of yet, no luck. Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steven walsh dixit: On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read. But for a new IRC user they sure confusing. I have been trying to Window it but, as of yet, no luck.

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Rafael Kitover
Check out http://www.innerx.net/~nuke I need not say more. The package for epic in debian is called epic4. -- Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpyyBFY6cHF4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:17:40 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read. But for a new IRC user they sure confusing. I have been trying to Window it but, as of yet, no luck. As for anything new, it is

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:44:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, most of the docs you pointed out say next to nothing. One may try to guess (as surely most bitchx users do) how to work things out, and that works some times, but not always. I

Re: bitchx (sucks!) (forwarded, oops!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
- Begin Forwarded Message - Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:24:00 -0600 (CST) From: steven walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bitchx (sucks!) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-MD5: tm9kkgAIpk3NEqxSyKGLDg== I didn't guess, I RTFM'd. I read in the docs

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread steven walsh
[l] Help on Topic: index 4OP ABORT ADDIDLE ADDSHIT ADDUSER ADDLAME ADDFORWARD ADDWORD ADMIN AJOIN AJOINLIST AWAY BACK BAN BANS BANSTABANTYPE BANWORD BEEP BKBOTLIST BYE C CDCDCC

Fwd: Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 99 Professional (2.10.0382) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bitchx (sucks!) On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:24:01 -0600 (CST), steven walsh wrote

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:51:00 -0600 (CST), steven walsh wrote: Funny, looks alphabetized to me. Man, cwhom. Chgaop cghchanch... VERY INFORMATIVE. Alphabetical sorting isn't enough, help should be helpful. You said it wasn't

Re: Fwd: Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 02:06:18PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: The ability of some IRCers to blatantly ban entire countries because of the acts of a few is why EfNet is in a decline. Too many little kids fighting for power in a virtual medium. It's funny in a sad sort of way. It was on

Re: bitchx (sucks!) (forwarded, oops!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
Could that be because your domain is banned? I bet it is. And why? Because they had problems with people from your domain flooding, spamming and clonning on their channel. Some of the channels I ran banned entire COUNTRIES because of people like that. Now I can freely assume that

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 3/9/99 4:33:12 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See what you want, just know that you're more than likely 100% wrong. I can only see what you project with your attitudes and behaviors. Which are only a reflection of your own.

Re: Fwd: Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:24:21 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Yeah, why should we try to improve our social life when a simple ban command makes us feel powerful. Banning and ignoring is the simplest way to deal with social problems. No, banning

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
Steve Lamb dixit: [ ... ] btw, so please, stop preaching to the choir. and just what's calling someone publicly a clueless newbie... whining... ? Horacio

Re: Fwd: Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 02:55:43PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: No, banning is the way to get control of an otherwise unwieldy situation. Have you been on a channel that gets 10-20 clone/flood attacks per week? You can that a social problem but tell me, exactly how would *YOU* solve it,

IRC stuff (was: bitchx (sucks!))

1999-03-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:32:39 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: There is no general solution to such a problem, but I have seen worse in Real Life. Sure, you can lock the door, but then? See who is knocking. I would try talking to

bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread homega
Sorry about that (), but even if the program itself is damn good, the docs and /help really suck... further more, #bitchx SUCKS. I've been desperately trying to get help around, and even went to #bitchx at irc.chat.org, just to be kicked out every time I try to join it, the reason being spammers

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread Lawrence Walton
: Sorry about that (), but even if the program itself is damn good, the docs and /help really suck... further more, #bitchx SUCKS. I've been desperately trying to get help around, and even went to #bitchx at irc.chat.org, just to be kicked out every time I try to join it, the reason being spammers

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread steven walsh
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BitchX suffers from it's own unique form of feature creep. Use IRCII with a nice script (one you are comfortable with and hopefully has no nasty backdoors like the ircN script that mIRC had *snicker*). I hear EPIC is a nice client as

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread homega
Thanks Lawrence and Stephen, I downloaded ircii and it looks better documented than bitchx. I still don't know how to deal with the scripts, but they look promising and fun, and I even found a mailing list for ircii. Horacio

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:53:26 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that (), but even if the program itself is damn good, the docs and /help really suck... further more, #bitchx SUCKS. /bhelp, not /help. /help is the ircII help files

Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-08 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: bitchx (sucks!) Date: Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:30:33PM -0800 In reply to:Steve Lamb Quoting Steve Lamb([EMAIL PROTECTED]): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:53:26 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that (), but even