On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 01:57:28PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
No package creates /etc/apt/apt.conf that I know about.
And if it did then it would be a bug because that is supposed to be
reserved for the local sysadmin. If a package did want to create a
configuration for apt then it should
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
By default, source.lists uses the naming stable, testing and
unstable; However, you can use instead woody or sarge that would
be simlinks that will always point to the right directory, whatever of
the eventual switch.
No, that's backwards. stable, testing and
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:39:02PM -0400, Marty wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (10/06/05 13:13), Marty wrote:
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
file.
I wonder how apt can function without it? In particular, how do you
specify
your Debian version?!
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 05:12:41PM -0500, Colin Ingram wrote:
In a nut shell you can control your version with the
apt.conf/preferences files or by only downloading a package list from a
single release.
Three questions (gotta get Monty Python outta this)
1) User copies
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:39:02PM -0400, Marty wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (10/06/05 13:13), Marty wrote:
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
file.
I wonder how apt can function without it? In particular, how do you
specify
Hi !
I'm actually the one who launched this subject. Arguments have fused
quite well. I think now everybody knows about packages versions and
repositories.
I let you remember what was the questions i firstly ask.
I run sarge since september and i really appreciate it. I used to update
Right,
This could be interresting to debate about.
It's still about debian version, packages version and repositories.
Broadly, package are evoluting that way : The package is in really beta
version in the unstable tree. Then most of the bugs are fixed and this
package slides to the testing
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
It seems that the BIG SWITCH let my system a kind of orphelin
I think you are massively overcomplicating the problem...
You wrote ealier that your last upgrade was on the 2nd of june (FYI
here in the US 02/06/2005 is usually interpreted as Feb 6 2005) and
you
Marty wrote:
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
It seems that the BIG SWITCH let my system a kind of orphelin
I think you are massively overcomplicating the problem...
Marty,
I know i'm overcomplicating the problem. But i think there is really
something that bugs.
This means you are
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:35:00PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
[...]
There is a problem. A package with the same
version number won't contain the same binaries at different T time in
the different trees.
Apt doesn't know about binaries. It only looks at the
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Marty wrote:
This means : the package-2.0 is my system (taken from the testing
repositories at (BIG-SWITCH -4)) could be different than the
package-2.0 in the stable repositories. And APT won't see it and won't
upgrade this package. Therefore it seems it's not
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Right,
This could be interresting to debate about.
It's still about debian version, packages version and repositories.
Broadly, package are evoluting that way : The package is in really
beta version in the unstable tree. Then most of the bugs are fixed and
this
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Apt doesn't know about binaries. It only looks at the version number.
Correct.
This means : the package-2.0 is my system (taken from the testing
repositories at (BIG-SWITCH -4)) could be different than the package-2.0
in the stable repositories.
No that is
Chris Bannister wrote:
Three questions (gotta get Monty Python outta this)
1) User copies /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf to /etc/apt/apt.conf
and edits to suit?
No. That is an example configuration file to illustrate features
configuration file and a very few possible features, that
Marty wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
APT does not know or care about any Debian version that you seem to
be trying to make up. It does not exist. Don't try to create one.
I guess these guys didn't hear the news:
algernon:/home/marty# dlocate debian_version
base-files: /etc/debian_version
Bob Proulx wrote:
Marty wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
snip
You are very close to trolling. Please don't do that.
Bob
Hi Bob,
He may be close to trolling, but I am glad they all got those posts out
of you. What great explanations of the situation. I have tried to impart
this information in
Joe Potter wrote:
He may be close to trolling, but I am glad they all got those posts out
of you.
I'm not trolling nor did I make up idea of the debian version. I just
asked a few questions about it, seeking clarification. Thanks to all
who responded, and thanks for your patience too.
Guillaume TESSIER writes:
A package with the same version number won't contain the same binaries at
different T time in the different trees.
What ever gave you that idea? of _course_ it will. In fact, it is exactly
the same _file_. Look up package pools.
This means : the package-2.0 is my
Colin Ingram wrote:
packages with the same version number have the same binaries and are
exactly the same no matter if they are in unstable, testing, or stale
Bob and Colin,
Thanks for giving me all these informations and lead my behaviour in the
right way.
Yes, i missed something : i
Marty wrote:
So what you are saying is consistent with the others -- apt does not know
or care about the Debian version. I knew this to be true with dpkg,
but not apt.
APT does not know or care about any Debian version that you seem to
be trying to make up. It does not exist. Don't try to
Bob Proulx wrote:
APT does not know or care about any Debian version that you seem to
be trying to make up. It does not exist. Don't try to create one.
I guess these guys didn't hear the news:
algernon:/home/marty# dlocate debian_version
base-files: /etc/debian_version
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Marty,
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Marty,
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages
will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically,
Another point :
in sources.list : changing testing by stable or testing by sarge
returns me error when updating. Like apt can't find the repositories
Does someone remember the command to reconfigure to get the choice of
mirrors?
G
I use apt-spy to find mirrors. You can update the
Colin Ingram wrote:
On a side note: I installed sarge fresh a couple of months ago and I
didn't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file or /etc/apt/preferences. I created
both by hand.
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf file.
I wonder how apt can function
On (10/06/05 13:13), Marty wrote:
Colin Ingram wrote:
On a side note: I installed sarge fresh a couple of months ago and I
didn't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file or /etc/apt/preferences. I created
both by hand.
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
Colin Ingram wrote:
Another point :
in sources.list : changing testing by stable or testing by sarge
returns me error when updating. Like apt can't find the
repositories
Does someone remember the command to reconfigure to get the choice
of mirrors?
G
I use apt-spy to find
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (10/06/05 13:13), Marty wrote:
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
file.
I wonder how apt can function without it? In particular, how do you specify
your Debian version?!
I think it's mainly for situations where you have multiple
Marty wrote:
Colin Ingram wrote:
On a side note: I installed sarge fresh a couple of months ago and I
didn't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file or /etc/apt/preferences. I
created both by hand.
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an
apt.conf file.
I wonder how apt can
Marty writes:
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
file.
toncho/~ 1 ls /etc/apt
apt-file.conf apt.conf.d listchanges.conf sources.list
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This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf
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Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Apt can fonction without [apt.conf]. Unless you have specific network settings
(like access through proxy) then you don't need it. Either its an empty
file either it's not there. If you use testing it might be there of not
depending of the moment of your upgrade.
Marty wrote:
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Apt can fonction without [apt.conf]. Unless you have specific network
settings (like access through proxy) then you don't need it. Either
its an empty file either it's not there. If you use testing it might
be there of not depending of the moment of
Marty wrote:
Colin Ingram wrote:
On a side note: I installed sarge fresh a couple of months ago and I
didn't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file or /etc/apt/preferences. I
created both by hand.
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an
apt.conf file.
I wonder how apt
Colin Ingram wrote:
Marty wrote:
Colin Ingram wrote:
On a side note: I installed sarge fresh a couple of months ago and I
didn't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf file or /etc/apt/preferences. I
created both by hand.
This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an
apt.conf
Marty wrote:
Colin Ingram wrote:
Apt uses its default behavior if you don't have an apt.conf file. As
for version this default behavior is to update to the newest version
available.
It seems like you are referring to package version. I was referring to
Debian version, e.g. sarge,
Hi!
I have been using debian sarge while in testing for some times and got
really satisfied.
However, i tought i'd just continue to use when it well get frozen.
I'm not that much of a purist but Woody was really outdated.
The problem is that i did some apt-get upgrade a fiew days ago (don't
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Hi!
I have been using debian sarge while in testing for some times and got
really satisfied.
However, i tought i'd just continue to use when it well get frozen.
I'm not that much of a purist but Woody was really outdated.
The problem is that i did some apt-get
On (09/06/05 15:05), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Hi!
I have been using debian sarge while in testing for some times and got
really satisfied.
However, i tought i'd just continue to use when it well get frozen.
I'm not that much of a purist but Woody was really outdated.
The problem is
En/La Guillaume TESSIER ha escrit, a 09/06/05 15:05:
Hi!
snip
My question would be : am i really using etch by now? And broadly : what
am i running
It's a bit irritating not knowing what you're running..
Thanks, as i guess i'm not alone to wonder what is in his comp
On (09/06/05 17:50), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (09/06/05 15:05), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Hi!
I have been using debian sarge while in testing for some times and got
really satisfied.
However, i tought i'd just continue to use when it well get frozen.
I'm not
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (09/06/05 17:50), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (09/06/05 15:05), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Hi!
I have been using debian sarge while in testing for some times and
got really satisfied.
However, i tought
Marty wrote:
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
what is this : dpkg/apt var package directories
should tell the story.
What is the absolut path of it?
There are many individual files that get updated, in directories
or in subdirectories of, /var/lib/dpkg and /var/lib/apt,
/var/cache/apt,
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (09/06/05 15:05), Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
[snip]
The problem is that i did some apt-get upgrade a fiew days ago (don't
remember exactly which days...) and i hear yesteday that debian sarge
got frozen. Therefore everything has slided : and as my apt-sources are
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Marty wrote:
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
what is this : dpkg/apt var package directories
should tell the story.
What is the absolut path of it?
There are many individual files that get updated, in directories
or in subdirectories of, /var/lib/dpkg and /var/lib/apt,
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the debian version. e.g. mine contains:
APT::Get::Show-Upgraded true;
On (09/06/05 14:07), Marty wrote:
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the debian version. e.g. mine
According to Marty,
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the debian version. e.g. mine contains:
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Marty,
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the debian version. e.g. mine
According to Marty,
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Marty,
Basajaun wrote:
For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
get updated (or not), take a look at man apt_preferences.
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the
Tony Godshall wrote:
Uh, your dlocate seems to show no /etc/apt/apt.conf file either.
Nor here:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelistword=aptversion=stablearch=i386page=1number=all
There seem to be a number of contexts in which conffiles aren't
regarded as
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