Re: Failed to boot on linux-image-4.19.0-27-cloud-amd64 under Xen 4.7

2024-07-25 Thread DdB
Am 25.07.2024 um 06:52 schrieb Sam Lander: > Rackspace Xen 4.7 linux-image-4.19.0-26-cloud-amd64 works, > linux-image-4.19.0-27-cloud-amd64 does not work. FWIW: I do not use the *clowd* kernels, but the regular ones in my VM's: > uname -a > Linux SuperServer 4.19.0-27-amd64 #

Failed to boot on linux-image-4.19.0-27-cloud-amd64 under Xen 4.7

2024-07-24 Thread Sam Lander
Summary Rackspace Xen 4.7 linux-image-4.19.0-26-cloud-amd64 works, linux-image-4.19.0-27-cloud-amd64 does not work. I am running Buster on Rackspace inside a 1GB basic model VM At the end of June, linux-image-4.19.0-27-cloud-amd64 was added as a security update My unattended-upgrades script

Kali Linux is not Debian - no support here [WAS Re: LINUX-IMAGE-6.8.11 headers cannot be installed]

2024-07-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
> > > Hello, > > > I am using a Kali Linux > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=kali+linux+support > > > > Aleix, That's not a Debian kernel version, potentially. Kali Linux? We've tried to tell you - most of us don't run / have never run Kali for an

Re: LINUX-IMAGE-6.8.11 headers cannot be installed

2024-07-24 Thread Aleix Piulachs
How do you install them and tell me the characteristics of your computer El El mié, 17 jul 2024 a las 2:38, Greg Wooledge escribió: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 19:30:20 -, Prajnanaswaroopa wrote: > > Hello, > > I am using a Kali Linux > > https://www.google.com/search?q=kali+linux+support > >

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share? [Dvorak]

2024-07-21 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 07:55:29PM -0600, Shawn Jefferds wrote: Your final statement makes me curious about learning Dvorak. Shawn Jefferds ??n ??f?rdz Noli fovere canem ardentum Vote Vader 2024! On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 11:37 Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 04:48:19PM

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
; to write a virus for Linux than for Windows, but the R number for such > a virus, as epidemiologists would put it, would be very much less than > one, so there's no point. No propagation. I think this would change, > but this is of course just an opinion. > Linux servers are running headles

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share? [Dvorak]

2024-07-21 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 04:48:19PM +0800, hlyg wrote: On 7/21/24 02:33, Russell L. Harris wrote: The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather than Dvorak: = The precedent set by the first to market is powerful. = The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 12:19 PM Hans wrote: > > I do not agree to this. Updates should be installed as soon as they are > available. Especially security updates. It shows , that within 24 hours after > the release of an update, an exploit is available for this security hole. I think you may be

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > - software updates that run as root (including Debian updates) > > can run anything else as root > > So, maybe a more relevant discussion is: what will happen when a Debian > stable security update comes with a "big blunder" that crashes the most > machines in

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Anssi Saari
hlyg writes: > why free OS hasn't gained more share even after 30 years of development? But it has. The internet and what connects to it now mostly run Linux, other than Microsoft's single niche. Mobile phones run a Linux variant. The PC desktop is the only exception where they have dominat

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-07-20 at 22:07, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:46 PM The Wanderer > wrote: > >> On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote: >>> The problem is the Windows Systems Administrators who contracted >>> for / allowed unattended remote updates of kernel drivers on >>> live

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Hans
I do not agree to this. Updates should be installed as soon as they are available. Especially security updates. It shows , that within 24 hours after the release of an update, an exploit is available for this security hole. But you should do it corrdectly, like some hospitals did: First check

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread The Wanderer
run things also value what their MBA >> says. And since there is no one to sue to cover their personal butt >> in case the system goes south like cloudflare has in the last 3 >> days, M$ & cloudflare are a brick and morter legal target they can >> sic the legal team onto

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Richmond
Dan Ritter writes: > Richmond wrote: >> Jeffrey Walton writes: >> >> Yes the updates should be tested at every stage. Maybe people think that >> they cannot stop updates, but they can use Group Policy to stop Windows >> Update. Or maybe they are afraid if they don't allow virus updates then

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
Joe (12024-07-21): > And the important phrase there is 'if you want to'. The point is that > many people, especially those accustomed to running with admin > privileges on their Windows computers, would continue to do that. No, they will not. They will continue to follow the system default,

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
Alain D D Williams (12024-07-21): > I only needed root as it was for another user. Exactly. On a computer with only one user account, once the pirate have access to that account, they can do everything that matters. Including spy the root password next time it is typed, but why waste the time

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
ff to Google (but not keystrokes I think), MS Edge does likewise - which is why I stick to Firefox. But if you have root access it is easy, I did it on a Unix system V machine in the late 1980s, a few minutes work. I only needed root as it was for another user. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
Joe (12024-07-21): > I accept what you say, the point I was making is that the more users, > and they will be less IT-competent users, the more will login as root. No, they will not. And it does not matter, because on a personal computer the root account is not what matters, what matters is the

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Joe
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:13:00 +0200 Hans wrote: > > You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a > > large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it > > would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux. > > Linux woul

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> - software updates that run as root (including Debian updates) > can run anything else as root So, maybe a more relevant discussion is: what will happen when a Debian stable security update comes with a "big blunder" that crashes the most machines in early boot? Admittedly, the wider

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Richmond wrote: > Jeffrey Walton writes: > > Yes the updates should be tested at every stage. Maybe people think that > they cannot stop updates, but they can use Group Policy to stop Windows > Update. Or maybe they are afraid if they don't allow virus updates then > they will allow a virus?

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Richmond
Jeffrey Walton writes: > This is alarming (to me) from the YC post: > > "we push software to your machines any time we want, > whether or not it's urgent, without testing it" seems to be > core to the model... > > Updates need to be tested inside an organization's lab, and then >

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 12:40 AM wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 03:27:17PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > And even you Hans, leave out the major, all encompassing, reason for the > > lack of market share, which is that most business that have a > computerized > > system to run things

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread George at Clug
Contrary to popular belief, the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the typist down, but rather to speed up typing. Indeed, there is evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, placing often-used keys farther apart increases typing speed, because it encourages alternation between the

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
hlyg (12024-07-21): > is it possible to remap keyboard to Dvorak in X Window? Yes, of course. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Debian+dvorak > does anyone use it > to speed up typing? No, only to feel smug. # Later experiments have shown

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-21 Thread hlyg
On 7/21/24 02:33, Russell L. Harris wrote: The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather than Dvorak: = The precedent set by the first to market is powerful. = The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in discernment and addicted to novelty is deadly. Add to

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 2:15 AM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:28:28AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Crowdstrike did not strike at Linux or BSD UNIX systems - only MS Windows > > systems. > > Except that time just a few months ago when it *did* happe

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
lesson will not be learned and that most will largely forget this before too long. :-( -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information:

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Alain D D Williams
ell you what to do but not why, I have sometimes found that the recommendation is wrong and that enabling something else is a better solution. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliam

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 03:27:17PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > And even you Hans, leave out the major, all encompassing, reason for the > lack of market share, which is that most business that have a computerized > system to run things also value what their MBA says. And since there is

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:28:28AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Crowdstrike did not strike at Linux or BSD UNIX systems - only MS Windows > systems. Except that time just a few months ago when it *did* happen to Crowdstrike+Linux? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41005936 N

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread Bret Busby
and the CEO's and the CIO's of the institutions - government departments and businesses, who were not running Linux or BSD UNIX instead of MS Windows. Crowdstrike did not strike at Linux or BSD UNIX systems - only MS Windows systems. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:46 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote: > > [...] > > The problem was not CrowdStrike as such. It happens in the best of > > operations. > > > > The problem is the Windows Systems

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread jeremy ardley
On 21/7/24 07:28, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Again lacking data center experience? Every server in your data center that is outward-facing will be contacted by intruders on its open ports. That includes your Debian servers. If your apache server or application server running on Debian is

Re: CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread jeremy ardley
On 21/7/24 06:38, The Wanderer wrote: The first would be poor institutional practice; the others would be potentially-questionable software design, although it's hard to know without seeing the internal architecture of the software in question and understanding*why* it's designed that way.

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread gene heskett
On 7/20/24 16:45, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote: crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens it is evident that many people around still use Windows i wonder if linux is more reliable than

CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 21-07-2024 at 08:38 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote: > >> > >>> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue > >>> screens > >> > >>

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 2:09 PM Joe wrote: > > You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a > large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it > would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux. Linux > would become as virus-ri

CrowdStrike and drivers (was Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?)

2024-07-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-07-20 at 09:19, jeremy ardley wrote: > On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote: > >> On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote: >> >>> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue >>> screens >> >> The CrowdStrike issue was not a Windows issue, it was a CrowdStrike >>

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread hlyg
Thank Clug and all that reply ! On 7/20/24 18:36, George at Clug wrote: Do you think Windows is not reliable? Why is that? Windows used to crash often, i rarely use it now, they say it's more stable these day Do you use Linux yourself? surely i use as this is debian user list Have you

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Andy Smith (12024-07-20): > And yes here in the UK where we allowed the Post Office to pay > billions to Fujitsu to develop the Horizon IT system that > incorrectly accused hundreds of postmasters of fraud, resulting in > criminal prosecutions and at least one case of suicide. That was not a bug,

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Andy Smith
no real consequences for those people to blame. We will be lucky to see any criminal prosecution of Post Office management, if there are any they will be a joke, and absolutely nothing will happen to the vendor Fujitsu UK. There is still nothing stopping a Horizon IT incident on Linux. So yes, agreed,

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread debian-user
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote: > > crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens > > > > it is evident that many people around still use Windows > > > > i wonder

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Jeff Pang
I would think linux is better as server OS due to reasons of security, performance and Operability etc. Once aol mail was running on windows. But now aol is merged into yahoo mail which was originally run on freebsd but now linux mostly. And the initial hotmail was running on freebsd too

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 11:54:06AM +0800, hlyg wrote: > crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens > > it is evident that many people around still use Windows > > i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows For this specific issue, if Linux were u

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Hans
> You missed one: Linux is virtually a virus-free environment, and a > large user base would mean many more people running as root, and it > would become worth the time of malware writers to target Linux. Linux > would become as virus-ridden as Windows. > > It would also become

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread gene heskett
and when the market will rule things, then many good developers will be pushed away or demoralied. Because it will become common, that people will no more cherish theire work. The development of a few people will be cherished, those, who create programs, the market wants. I am using linux since more than

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Joe
be cherished, those, who create > programs, the market wants. > > I am using linux since more than 30 years and it is impressive, what > people can do, when they can do, what they want and what they like. > > And look at the quality, look, what has been created since the > beg

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
The same reasons the standard typewriter keyboard is QWERTY rather than Dvorak: = The precedent set by the first to market is powerful. = The influence of advertising upon a populace lacking in discernment and addicted to novelty is deadly. Add to that extortion and bribes and a compromised

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
> > Because people don't have it hammered into them via the educational > > formats, it doesn't come preinstalled on almost every computer you buy: > > offered as the only option, Linux isn't advertised, and probably never > > will be. > Both writers are ignoring the places w

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Hans
, you have in coding in linux. Also here are some rules (GPL, ethicness, kindness whatever), but those do not techniocal restrict you in any way. Best regards Hans > Which the current rules for such does not allow, by FCC edicts, only > sealed FCC approved blobs are allowed to play in th

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread gene heskett
there are around 10 linux installs here, half running armbian, they get better uptimes than x86-64's. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect f

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
gene heskett (12024-07-20): > > If they were, you'd have support for software-defined radio signal > > processing in FFmpeg, for example. > Which the current rules for such does not allow, by FCC edicts, only sealed > FCC approved blobs are allowed to play in the rf field. > So don't blame the

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread George at Clug
ished, those, who create > programs, > the market wants. > > I am using linux since more than 30 years and it is impressive, what people > can do, when they can do, what they want and what they like. > > And look at the quality, look, what has been created since the beginnin

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread gene heskett
On 7/20/24 04:28, Nicolas George wrote: hlyg (12024-07-20): Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who develop more apps, The programmers who are attracted by market share are not necessarily the ones

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Hans
, then many good developers will be pushed away or demoralied. Because it will become common, that people will no more cherish theire work. The development of a few people will be cherished, those, who create programs, the market wants. I am using linux since more than 30 years

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Larry Martell
I’ve never owned a machine running windows in my life.

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread jeremy ardley
On 20/7/24 18:35, George at Clug wrote: On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 13:54 hlyg wrote: > crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens The CrowdStrike issue was not a Windows issue, it was a CrowdStrike issue. The problem did not affect our Windows computers as we have

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Jeff Pang
My reason to keep windows is that I can’t play Starcraft under Linux. -- Jeff Pang jeffp...@aol.com

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-20, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 20 Jul 2024 16:57 +0800, from hlyg2...@outlook.com (hlyg): >> statistics about market share might come from web servers and game servers, >> they know how many users use linux and Windows. > > No. They at most can know what platfo

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-20, Michael Grant wrote: > OpenOffice is quite featureful, it is not 100% bug for bug compatible with > real MS Office products. I failed to read an old version word file on a newer word. And succeed with libreoffice. So yes it's not 100% bug compatible :) > choices. There is no

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 20 Jul 2024 16:57 +0800, from hlyg2...@outlook.com (hlyg): > statistics about market share might come from web servers and game servers, > they know how many users use linux and Windows. No. They at most can know what platform user agents report. Which isn't necessarily the same thing

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
e, then >> there's usually little that a programmer, no matter how motivated, can >> do to extend that support to include Linux; especially if the product >> in question is heavily dependent on OS-specific APIs. > > There are plenty of applications that run O/S agnostic. Ye

why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread DdB
pic some more, let me add: As a former developer, i came to linux quite late, and although my willingness to learn was huge, i found it not exactly easy to switch. At least, i can say: "I do not regret a single bit following my decision to change, and i can do more things now, than what i

Re: Re[2]: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread George at Clug
Well said, Michael. On Saturday, 20-07-2024 at 20:19 Michael Grant wrote: > My opinions only... > > 1) MS Office (Word/Excel/PPT/etc) has never been available for > Unix/Gnu-Linux. Word and Excel have long been 2 apps users require. > Not OpenOffice. While OpenOffice is q

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread George at Clug
ays with. > > it is evident that many people around still use Windows I would agree that Windows is the most used OS for desktop PCs. > > i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows Do you think Windows is not reliable?  Why is that? > > according to some statistics linu

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread hlyg
On 7/20/24 15:02, Michel Verdier wrote: Linux is not on the market. I buy M$ but download debian. How can you say how many people is using debian? Once upon a time there was a linuxcounter... Thank tomas, Verdier and George! statistics about market share might come from web servers and game

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread jeremy ardley
ort Mac OS and Windows, for example, then there's usually little that a programmer, no matter how motivated, can do to extend that support to include Linux; especially if the product in question is heavily dependent on OS-specific APIs. There are plenty of applications that run O/S agnostic. Th

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
support Mac OS and Windows, for example, then there's usually little that a programmer, no matter how motivated, can do to extend that support to include Linux; especially if the product in question is heavily dependent on OS-specific APIs. And let's not forget how many regularly conflate "commo

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
hlyg (12024-07-20): > Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable > recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who > develop more apps, The programmers who are attracted by market share are not necessarily the ones who are interested in developing

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread hlyg
Thank David! market share is important though it isn't "reliable recommendation for quality": more users attract more programmers, who develop more apps, which attract more users. e.g. many vpn providers support Windows and android, not linux. linux can get distributed by wor

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-20 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-20, hlyg wrote: > i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows no doubt :) > according to some statistics linux has only 4% desktop market, 73% for MS, 15% > for MacOS Linux is not on the market. I buy M$ but download debian. How can you say how many people is using deb

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-19 Thread tomas
formats, it doesn't come preinstalled on almost every computer you buy: > offered as the only option, Linux isn't advertised, and probably never > will be. All of them good factors. I may add yet another: because in the current economic ideology, investing in things seems preferrable than inve

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-19 Thread David
On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 11:54 +0800, hlyg wrote: > crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens > > it is evident that many people around still use Windows > > i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows > > according to some statistics linux has o

why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-19 Thread hlyg
crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens it is evident that many people around still use Windows i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows according to some statistics linux has only 4% desktop market, 73% for MS, 15% for MacOS why free OS hasn't gained more

Re: Fwd: using xorriso to create a bootable Linux ISO

2024-07-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vijay Kirpalani wrote: > I am using xorriso to create a bootable Linux ISO and facing some issues. > Please suggest what i might be doing wrong or missing. I answered to your identical mail on bug-xorr...@gnu.org . See: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-xorriso/2024-07/msg

Re: Kali Linux problem and support question [WAS Re: w4sp-lab]

2024-07-17 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 3:10 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 18/7/24 01:43, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: > >> installing w4sp-lab in Kali-linux-2024.2-installer-everything-amd64.iso > >> gives me an error

Re: Kali Linux support forum info [WAS Re: kali and w4sp-lab]

2024-07-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 18/7/24 05:22, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:37:38PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: I am installing with virtualbox w4sp-lab to kali-linux-2024.2-installer-everything-amd64.iso and the module (import w4sp from w4sp_webapp.py ) gives an error: import os import re import

Kali Linux support forum info [WAS Re: kali and w4sp-lab]

2024-07-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:37:38PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: > I am installing with virtualbox w4sp-lab to > kali-linux-2024.2-installer-everything-amd64.iso and the module (import > w4sp from w4sp_webapp.py ) gives an error: import os import re import sys > import pwd import

Re: Kali Linux problem and support question [WAS Re: w4sp-lab]

2024-07-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 18/7/24 01:43, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: installing w4sp-lab in Kali-linux-2024.2-installer-everything-amd64.iso gives me an error when I press w4sp_webapp.py in python module error: import w4sp and error in module: from w4sp_app

Kali Linux problem and support question [WAS Re: w4sp-lab]

2024-07-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Aleix Piulachs wrote: > installing w4sp-lab in Kali-linux-2024.2-installer-everything-amd64.iso > gives me an error when I press w4sp_webapp.py in python module error: > import w4sp and error in module: from w4sp_app import * and I cannot change &

Re: LINUX-IMAGE-6.8.11 headers cannot be installed

2024-07-16 Thread George at Clug
Prajnanaswaroopa, What sources are you using to upgrade from? e.g. what do you see for: # cat /etc/apt/sources.list I do not know what Kali Linux might use for non-free firmware. Debian Bookworm can use something like: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free

Re: LINUX-IMAGE-6.8.11 headers cannot be installed

2024-07-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 19:30:20 -, Prajnanaswaroopa wrote: > Hello, > I am using a Kali Linux https://www.google.com/search?q=kali+linux+support

LINUX-IMAGE-6.8.11 headers cannot be installed

2024-07-16 Thread Prajnanaswaroopa
Hello, I am using a Kali Linux 6.6.9 version. When I tried to update and upgrade, the terminal shows that the header linux-header-6.8.11-amd64 cannot be installed. I tried several commands, but all seen to return the same comment. In addition, the error the terminal shows is as follows: dpkg

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix. [SOLUCIONADO]

2024-06-23 Thread JavierDebian
El 23/6/24 a las 10:05, JavierDebian escribió: El 23/6/24 a las 03:54, Camaleón escribió: El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del navegador, no hay problemas. Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-23 Thread JavierDebian
El 23/6/24 a las 03:54, Camaleón escribió: El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del navegador, no hay problemas. Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se "apaga" la imagen, es decir, muestra el video unos

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-23 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) > Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del > navegador, no hay problemas. > Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se "apaga" la imagen, es decir, muestra el > video unos 10 segundos, y se pone negra un par de

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-22 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
ue que hay en Netflix mejor es chupar un clavo. En Windows en OTRA maquina NO me pasa, en Windows en Máquina virtual sobre Linux tengo el mismo problema. Para mi que es algún problemilla de los navegadores que se dan de cabeza con los drivers de Linux. A mi hermana que tiene Fedora (que tiene otr

OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-22 Thread JavierDebian
Buen día. Tema totalmente OT. Tengo un sistema Debian 6.7.12 bookworm. Por primera vez en mi vida, ante un cambio de i7 2014 a un Ryzen 9 2024, he comprado una placa de video; siempre usé las "on-board". Es una Radeon RX 6400. Hasta ahora, anda 99% bien; el 1% mal, es lo que voy a comentar:

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-04 Thread songbird
e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 6/4/24 10:59, songbird wrote: >> t...@tommiller.us wrote: >> >>> Hello! >>> >>> last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. >> ... >> >>i've been using the "more" command

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-04 Thread songbird
Ash Joubert wrote: > On 2024-06-05 02:59, songbird wrote: >> t...@tommiller.us wrote: >>> last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. >>i've been using the "more" command provided by the util-linux >> package. > > You m

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-04 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-06-05 02:59, songbird wrote: t...@tommiller.us wrote: last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. i've been using the "more" command provided by the util-linux package. You might be thinking of less(1), a program similar to more(1). The ori

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-04 Thread eben
On 6/4/24 10:59, songbird wrote: t...@tommiller.us wrote: Hello! last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. ... i've been using the "more" command provided by the util-linux package. How do you use "more" to do what "last" do

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-04 Thread songbird
t...@tommiller.us wrote: > Hello! > > last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. ... i've been using the "more" command provided by the util-linux package. songbird

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread tom
subscribed to this list. > > Thanks for your help! > > Best! > > Tom > > <8> > > # Prior to upgrade, last(1) is present in 12.5 > > root@lol ~ # cat /etc/debian_version > > 12.5 > > root@lol ~ # which last > > /usr/

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-06-04 16:09, t...@tommiller.us wrote: last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. I remember seeing in the NEWS for util-linux that last(1) was moved to the wtmpdb package: $ zcat /usr/share/doc/util-linux/NEWS.Debian.gz util-linux (2.40.1-2) unstable

last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread tom
Prior to upgrade, last(1) is present in 12.5 root@lol ~ # cat /etc/debian_version 12.5 root@lol ~ # which last /usr/bin/last root@lol ~ # last --version last from util-linux 2.38.1 root@lol ~ # # Update, upgrade, and reboot 12.5 to prepare for sid root@lol ~ # apt-get update && apt-get f

Re: [HS] (serveur dedié Linux)

2024-05-17 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 5/7/24 14:17, David Martin wrote: Bonjour, Savez vous quelle est la meilleure solution aujourd'hui pour un serveur dédié sous Debian Linux ? Un serveur dédié pour quoi faire? C'est différent s'il gère une association locale de libristes ou de joueurs de bridge (dans ce cas, une

Re: Linux mobilise désormais 15 % de parts sur les desktops en Inde, une performance qui contraste avec les 4 % à l'échelle globale

2024-05-07 Thread Erwann Le Bras
Sharepoint. Et je trouve curieux ces entreprises qui confient toutes leurs données à des américains parfois concurrents sur le segment. En tant qu'utilisateur imposé de ces solutions je n'ai pas accès à ces informations de sécurité. C'est du coté serveurs que Linux s'impose (chez nous Redhat)... tant

Re: Re : Re: Linux mobilise désormais 15 % de parts sur les desktops en Inde, une performance qui contraste avec les 4 % à l'échelle globale

2024-05-05 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Gabriel Moreau a écrit : > Vrai pour Apple dont le noyau Darwin est un dérivé des BSD. Non, le noyau est un micronoyau avec des serveurs de type Unix par dessus (du code pompé à Free et NetBSD). C'est le pire truc qui puisse exister. > Faux pour > Windows qui n'a rien d'UNIX. Windows NT

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