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On 07/09/2024 06:01 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list
Max writes:
> Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI.
Yes, of course Gnus: it's what I use. But there is no point in
mentioning anything connected with Emacs when talking about enticing
people away from Facebook et al even though it is actually quite easy to
use these days.
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On 09/07/2024 23:15, John Hasler wrote:
I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
Even easier might be a browser plugin.
Thunderbird supports NNTP and likely Claws as well. Gnus (Emacs) should
be a bit more than just text UI.
I am in doubts what you mean by "browser
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
> KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
>
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Other
On 7/9/24 16:32, cgi...@surfnaked.ca wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler wrote:
> I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
> Even easier might be a browser plugin.
The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical
as you'd want to
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:20:01 +0200, John Hasler
wrote:
> I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could.
> Even easier might be a browser plugin.
The Pan newsreader does the job nicely and is about as graphical
as you'd want to get. Although I normally use slrn for Usen
On 07/09/2024 12:30 PM, Van Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that ned
On 07/09/2024 12:25 PM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 07:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
> for
> KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
This is somewhat tangential to the main question, but I find that nedit
has everything I need. If you can't
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group
> for KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
>
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Others must have the same general problem
your name. :-D
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others must have the same general problem.
In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something,
anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good
resource, I bookmark it so that
On 07/09/2024 08:59 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I
just don't know how to find suitable list.
Did you try the general KDE mailinglist?
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde
Sirius writes:
> Usenet is rather quiet these days, something I hope will change once
> people tire of web-forums that is more preoccupied with showing you
> ads than they are solving your problem.
Not as long as browsers fail to support it and the myth that it cannot
handle anything but plain tex
they would
create a list for the audience you seek if there isn't one already. Or
check with the KDE project if they have a dedicated list for Kate and if
not, would they be happy to create one >
If you want to create a mailing list, yourself, with free hosting (for
up to 100 subscribers),
how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
> Others must have the same general problem.
In general, I leverage presearch or duckduckgo to find something,
anything, pertinent relating to what I am researching. If I find a good
resource, I bookmark it so that I have it to hand.
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
> When posting, I assumed a mailing list would be the more likely solution. I
> just don't know how to find suitable list.
Did you try the general KDE mailinglist?
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde
On 07/09/2024 08:25 AM, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
For usenet you can search the active file of your server.
I was using news.eternal-september.org
Subscribe to some groups and see if
On 2024-07-09, Richard Owlett wrote:
> In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
For usenet you can search the active file of your server.
I was using news.eternal-september.org
Subscribe to some groups and see if someone respond. But usenet is almost
dead nowadays :/
My particular problem is finding an active user oriented list/group for
KDE's Kate editor. All I found is a developers' list.
In general, how does one find a suitable mailing list or USENET group?
Others must have the same general problem.
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On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
If you change subject
or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
For example: New question [WAS Old topic]
Are square brackets intention
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > If you change subject
> > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
> > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
> >
> > For example: New question [WA
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > If you change subject
> > or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
> > accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
> >
> > For example: New question [WA
On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
If you change subject
or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email
accordingly so that this can be clearly seen.
For example: New question [WAS Old topic]
Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips "(wa
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 03:26:03AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> > If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> > thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> > the new s
Hello,
On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> the new subject would get buried in the old thread.
Personally I prefer that. I
On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new
> thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header,
> the new subject would get buried in the old thread.
There's a difference between natural
The refactoring and headers are an improvement, thank you.
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:56:03 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the
> subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly
> seen.
>
> For example: New ques
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Could we perchance add something to the FAQ about the
inappropriateness of reposting private replies to the list without
first confirming with the people involved that doing so is acceptable?
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Hi,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> * It may also be useful to for someone to post a summary email from time to
> time to explain long threads.
You did not move the old "to" but rather added a new one during the change
from the text in 2023/12/msg00045.html to the new one:
> > * It may also be usef
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> > I'm subscribed, but I don't receive that badge of honour.
> > This is from my other post in this thread—no LDOSUBSCRIBER:
> >
> > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=CAPINIT,FOURLA,
> > > HE
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 20:39:51 (+), piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
> >
> > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
> > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-
Hi,
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> I'm subscribed, but I don't receive that badge of honour.
> This is from my other post in this thread—no LDOSUBSCRIBER:
>
> > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=CAPINIT,FOURLA,
> > HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,LDO_WHITELIST,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,
> >
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 17:24:53 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
>
> I got your message via the list.
>
> > Have received any messages since Nov 30
>
> Normal traffic yesterday and today, i'd say.
On 12/1/23 11:36, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Pocket wrote:
Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
Have received any messages since Nov 30
I can not tell if I am still subscribed
I get
Error: Overload
On thehttps://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Looks like I
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:39:51PM +, piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
> >
> > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
> > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:47PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
> >
> > > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > > privat
piorunz writes:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>>> Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
>>
>> Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
>> the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Oh, ok
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 16:32:44 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100
> Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
> >
> > > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the
> > > next three were on 29th at
> > > 08:39
> > > 13:14
> > > 15:5
On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
Cheers
Oh, ok, I didn't know that. That's why the
Hi,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> * Before posting, it may be useful to check your post for spelling mistakes
> and scan it for redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy.
Some wisdom cannot be repeated enough.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
>
> > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > private conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
>
>
> Have a nic
Hi,
there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
> * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> private conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
Have a nice day :)
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Pocket wrote:
> Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
>
> Have received any messages since Nov 30
>
> I can not tell if I am still subscribed
>
> I get
>
> Error: Overload
>
> On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Your message ma
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100
Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
>
> > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the
> > next three were on 29th at
> > 08:39
> > 13:14
> > 15:55
> > then normal flow was resumed, which is typically about 50 mess
Hi,
> Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
I got your message via the list.
> Have received any messages since Nov 30
Normal traffic yesterday and today, i'd say.
> I can not tell if I am still subscribed
The "From:" address poc...@columbus.rr.com se
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 03:24:33PM +, piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 15:05, Pocket wrote:
> > Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
> >
> > Have received any messages since Nov 30
> >
> > I can not tell if I am still subscribed
>
> Your
Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
> I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the next
> three were on 29th at
> 08:39
> 13:14
> 15:55
> then normal flow was resumed, which is typically about 50 messages per
> day.
>
> So yes, there was a problem.
> Times UTC by the wa
Am 01.12.2023 um 10:05:02 Uhr schrieb Pocket:
> I get
>
>
> Error: Overload
>
> On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Works perfectly fine for me.
On 01/12/2023 15:05, Pocket wrote:
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On 8/14/23 12:24, zithro wrote:
On 12 Aug 2023 04:39, gene heskett wrote:
On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote:
Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing.
Are you really an engineer ?!
No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a
much rarer breed of cat
cipating (except the OP, who doesn't know how to
unsubscribe, or how to spell it) is fully competent at efficiently
managing email but still posts as they posted?
Funnily enough, if you look carefully, you can see some utterly
slapstick confusion of that very nature in this thre
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote:
[...]
Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning
the linux distro called Alpine Linux.
[3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html
Then Greg points out, in
On 12 Aug 2023 04:39, gene heskett wrote:
On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote:
Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing.
Are you really an engineer ?!
No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a much
rarer breed of cat than your run of the mill EE. W
ow how to
unsubscribe, or how to spell it) is fully competent at efficiently
managing email but still posts as they posted?
Funnily enough, if you look carefully, you can see some utterly
slapstick confusion of that very nature in this thre
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 4:33 PM davidson wrote:
> [...]
> Somebody else posts a red-herring link, to a mailing list concerning
> the linux distro called Alpine Linux.
> [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/08/msg00355.html
>
> Then Greg points out, in reply to the
that
> everyone participating (except the OP, who doesn't know how to
> unsubscribe, or how to spell it) is fully competent at efficiently
> managing email but still posts as they posted?
Funnily enough, if you look care
On 2023-08-12, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> In the US, the banks are laxed. Banks claim they don't want to lose
> customers with inconveniences. I understand things are different from
> Europe.
It's a two-edged sword, though: I had to purchase a new smart phone in
order to continue banking with one
Hello,
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote:
> The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's
> threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find
> irrelevant to my interests
Unfortunately no matter how advanced your MUA is, it doesn't help
aga
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> [...]
> No one of us is perfect: the temptation to just add a bit more when you
> are irritated or something is wrong on the internet can be very strong.
>
> Obligatory xkcd cartoon: https://xkcd.com/386
Yeah, some threads refuse to die.
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N 18288 15:45 Erwan David (8K) > Swap size in debain 12
18292 12:
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18292 12:35 Greg Wooledge (7K) Re: Mailing list unsub
* N 18293 Wednesday Carl Fink (6K) > Sound loses my anal
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:17 PM David Wright wrote:
>
> On Fri 11 Aug 2023 at 17:39:28 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > The recommended procedure usually w
On 8/12/23 12:18, Curt wrote:
On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote:
Larry didn't write the next quote, he was echoing the OP which I snipped.
Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have
no clue
who is who here.
Larry did write this:
Gene may be many things, bu
ways be sent to
> the -request address of a mailing list.
>
> If a mailing list is called for example "thel...@lists.debian.org", then
> the -request address can be inferred from this to be:
> "thelist-requ...@lists.debian.org".
>
> To subscribe to a ma
On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote:
>
>
> Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have
> no clue
> who is who here.
>
Gene may be many things, but he's not random. He's *old*, though, so I
think certain breaks are to be given on that account.
But what I want to know is:
27;t read the FAQ either :(
>
> So, please, shut the two threads down, so the mailing list can return to the
> subject matter for which the list was created and is maintained; discussionWW
> of the use of Debian, and, seeking help with the operating system, and, not
> the extraneous
u just moved the goalpost: the Debian mailing lists are not your
bank. Whatever your bank does... I think I don't want to know that.
The current context was the Debian mailing list. Not your bank. Not
some dystopian lock-in software for some (at first cheap) hardware.
Not anything el
On Fri 11 Aug 2023 at 17:39:28 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a
> > > different browser or has
On 8/11/23 21:10, Larry Martell wrote:
Larry, whom I've known for 20 years, is only echoing.
Are you really an engineer ?!
No, I am not an EE, but I am a Certified Electronics Technician, a much
rarer breed of cat than your run of the mill EE. We teach EE's how to
get their hands dirty i
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 6:03 PM zithro wrote:
> On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote:
> > No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all
> > the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least
> > a decade.
>
> With all due respect, can you stop sp
bscribe, have been posted, and, if
some subscribers need to be told how to input the name of this mailing
list ("If you look at that black rectangle in front of you, with those
white markings on it, that is named a keyboard. On that thing, if you
look along the rows of the markings, you should be ab
On 11 Aug 2023 23:39, gene heskett wrote:
No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all
the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least
a decade.
With all due respect, can you stop spreading misinformation to this list ?
Not only this has nothi
30 character pw it would take eons to
guess, doesn't mean a thing to them.
Your bank's authentication policy has NOTHING AT ALL to do with
unsubscribing from a mailing list.
And, I fail to see how a web browser version or operating system version
influences the response to a subscr
and its been that way for at least a
> decade. The fact that I have a nearly 30 character pw it would take eons to
> guess, doesn't mean a thing to them.
Your bank's authentication policy has NOTHING AT ALL to do with
unsubscribing from a mailing list.
d the mailing list software an unsubscription
request for a specific mail address: either by sending
a mail or by performing a HTTP GET on a specific URL
(aka "clicking on a link")
2. the mailing list software sends a mail (containing a
token) to confirm the unsubscription r
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a
> different browser or has installed a new version of the OS.
Sorry, Gene, this is plain wrong. The way it works is this:
1. you send the mailin
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>> If I'm not wrong, RFC compliance may even be required in some areas (via
>> contracts).
> That might happen, but it wouldn't be a great idea from a legal
> standpoint: RFCs are often ambiguous in surprising ways.
Most contracts are ambiguous in surprising ways anyway :-)
Stefan
zithro wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2023 01:15, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > zithro wrote:
> > > On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ?
> >
> > Sort of.
> >
> > At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take
> > notes. Not quite c
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