Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On 5/15/24 10:50, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else.

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread James H. H. Lampert
of them. . . . Actually, it isn't necessarily the user's fault. Thanks to the "business standard," (and think about the initials) of top-posting over the complete, unpared quote of the entire thread, there are an awful lot of email readers (and especially webmail interfaces) that make it

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Henning Follmann
pro and con in previous discussions, and there is no need to repeat them. It is a matter of personal choice though I have to admit I feel a bit emboldened by the posting guidelines. And in my experience a polite question goes a long way with most civilized people. You can ignore my request, well

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely > accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else. The MUAs who write “RE: ” are wrong.

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On 5/15/24 10:06, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense to me. Git

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 09:46:08AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. > > PS

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message- From: Greg Wooledge To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 13:41:17 On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. Git is an order of magnitude younger than

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message- From: gene heskett To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 10:54:50 On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote: Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing

Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting)

2024-05-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Larry Martell
>>> >>> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >>> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >>> > >>> > Hi Richard, >>> > >>> > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: >>>

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 14 May 2024, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> don't y'all have any thing better to do > > You must be new here. sorta i've only been using versions of linux since the early 90's :) downloaded it from an archie

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > don't y'all have any thing better to do You must be new here. Get used to reading with a "mark thread read" key in your MUA of choice, is my best advice. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > In this particular instance, we've got a person from the second > culture who seems to have no idea that other cultures exist, or that > a mailing list might not adhere to their own expectations. This > person is acting belligerantly, and will not listen to gentle >

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. I can't be sure where they're coming from exactly, but every once in a while I see messages on debian-user, bug-bash or help-bash which have extra asterisk characters

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ts cannot do that, its time to switch to an agent >> that can. There are dozens of them. >> >> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >> > >> > Hi Richard, >&g

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
the software in between cannot take, i.e. most of it. And the “(s)” tells us which culture is more efficient and why. The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, and inline quoting is nigh impossib

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do > i know > how about some real debian issues > Hi, Have a quick look at the Debian-user FAQ posted each month and the Debian

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Nicolas George
t. And the “(s)” tells us which culture is more efficient and why. > The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products > in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, > and inline quoting is nigh impossible. Messages are often sent in ei

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 5/14/24 10:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: We have a clash of two cultures here. More than just *nix vs. M$. In business communications by email, the norm is to quote the *entire* thread, every time, without paring anything down, purely for the sake of CYA. As such, top-posting is the only

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
on a terminal, or a terminal emulator. Characters are displayed in a fixed-width font. ASCII art is possible, albeit frowned upon as juvenile. The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, and inli

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
how many times has this top post crap been dug up don't y'all have any thing better to do i know how about some real debian issues

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:08:19PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not > standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a > setting. Most people prefer inline quoting around here (I know I do). That's because

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
> > Hi Richard, > > > > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > > > > > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being > replied > > > to) is literally industry standard behavior. > >

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread gene heskett
:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply t

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
tes: > > > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > > to) is literally industry standard behavior. > > Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? > > Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply to this ne

OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Loris Bennett
Hi Richard, Richard writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply to this newsg

Re: Banning a user from posting to Debian lists

2024-02-19 Thread Charles Kroeger
just checking -- CK

Banning a user from posting to Debian lists

2024-02-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
[Also posted to commun...@debian.org / listmas...@lists.debian.org] Subject: Banning of a user from posting to Debian lists === As noted in the monthly FAQ, among the events that can take place on Debian lists as a result of breach

Re: OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

2023-06-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Manphiz wrote: > Personally I don't have a strong preference either way, but would like > to hear more opinions on this. The complaint about a top-posted forwarded message just because it had a contextual hint at the top, seemed excessive to me. I

OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

2023-06-22 Thread Manphiz
David Christensen writes: > On 6/22/23 03:28, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> Am 21/06/2023 um 15:46 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > >>> ... top posting ... > >> ... When the message is forwarded ("Weitergeleitet", ... you have no >> other choice

[OT] Re: Android email client that does bottom posting

2022-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le jeudi 28 avril 2022 à 12:41 +, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : > Good Evening All > > I top posted last night, in error.  Sorry > > I have asked the devs where the bottom posting setting has gone. Hello, (K9 Mail) Account Settings > Sending mail > Reply after quoted text

Android email client that does bottom posting

2022-04-28 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good Evening All I top posted last night, in error. Sorry I have asked the devs where the bottom posting setting has gone. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com Sent from my aPhone. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: Subject: Mr. Dan Ritter, why is it that you appear to be posting your POV on my posts? Are you a covert agent of the anti-FSF cabal, trying to subvert something "positive for FSF, but detrimenta

2021-03-31 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Dan Ritter writes: > Laura Smith wrote: >> On Wednesday, March 31st, 2021 at 18:28, Dan Ritter >> wrote: >> >> > That was the subject line of a message I just received from a >> > - I am not a covert agent of an anti-FSF cabal [...] >> >> Unless you were a very bad covert agent, you would

Re: Subject: Mr. Dan Ritter, why is it that you appear to be posting your POV on my posts? Are you a covert agent of the anti-FSF cabal, trying to subvert something "positive for FSF, but detrimental

2021-03-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Laura Smith wrote: > On Wednesday, March 31st, 2021 at 18:28, Dan Ritter > wrote: > > > That was the subject line of a message I just received from a > > - I am not a covert agent of an anti-FSF cabal [...] > > Unless you were a very bad covert agent, you would say that, wouldn't you ;).

Re: Subject: Mr. Dan Ritter, why is it that you appear to be posting your POV on my posts? Are you a covert agent of the anti-FSF cabal, trying to subvert something "positive for FSF, but detrimental

2021-03-31 Thread Laura Smith
On Wednesday, March 31st, 2021 at 18:28, Dan Ritter wrote: > That was the subject line of a message I just received from a > - I am not a covert agent of an anti-FSF cabal [...] Unless you were a very bad covert agent, you would say that, wouldn't you ;).

Subject: Mr. Dan Ritter, why is it that you appear to be posting your POV on my posts? Are you a covert agent of the anti-FSF cabal, trying to subvert something "positive for FSF, but detrimental for

2021-03-31 Thread Dan Ritter
That was the subject line of a message I just received from a Debian-user member. In case anyone is confused: - I write my point of view because that's the one I have - I am not a covert agent of an anti-FSF cabal, to the best of my knowledge. - I have no idea what 'trying to subvert

Re: Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-08-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:14:16 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > If someone can't be bothered to take the time to write a readable > message, I can't be bothered to take the time to decipher it. On the other tentacle, this sort of thing is usually the province of newbies. I think it would help to

Re: Top-posting

2020-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
Charlie Gibbs composed on 2020-08-30 09:14 (UTC-0700): > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + Andy Smith wrote: >>> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >>> difficult to read your

Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-08-30 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + > Andy Smith wrote: > >> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >> difficult to read your emails so I mostly haven't bothered. > > Hear, hear. My se

Re: [not-so-offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread davidson
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 Ajith R wrote: Hi David, Debian conformant style looks like this instead: Do I understand the style correctly now? LOL. Probably not. Maybe I should have allowed your discovery of the mailing list's quoting conventions to take its natural course. It was maybe

Re: [offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iul 20, 02:52:02, Ajith R wrote: > > Do I understand the style correctly now? Mostly. Think of it as "conversational" style, with the reply following the portion of text it addresses. Other text should be removed, unless it provides useful context (would your message make sense if

Re: [offlist] posting style [was Re: Using .XCompose]

2020-07-07 Thread Ajith R
Hi David, >>> Debian conformant style looks like this instead: >>> Do I understand the style correctly now? BTW, a query about how the original message is quoted with '<'. Is it done by hand or does any email clients do it automatically?  Is it necessary that each line s marked with '<'? Or

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-21 Thread Felix Perez
El mié., 18 de sep. de 2019 a la(s) 20:02, Fran Torres (frantorresgall...@gmail.com) escribió: > > Buenas, > > el problema del bottom posting, es que cuando necesitas encontrar una > solución x a un problema z de una forma rápida y eficiente (aquí > también entra la accesib

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
blen? > > > > Saludos. > > > > > Lo concidero la forma natural porque es una respuesta a algo ya leido, > muy diferete a la cominicación hablada, imagina hablando antes de > respoder repetir todo lo ya dicho > La verdad no se te entiende mucho, pero no es natural

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread juan
El 18/9/19 a las 18:10, Felix Perez escribió: El mié., 21 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 13:55, juan (juansanti...@riseup.net) escribió: No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir un hilo si

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
cesibilidad. > Tal y como cuando un usuario señala que se le envía copia al privado, el usuario podría solicitar que se le conteste con top posting. Saludos. > Yo, personalmente, soy editor de la Wiki Debian; tengo los permisos > necesarios; cosa que no es difícil de hacer, pero tambi

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
El mié., 21 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 13:55, juan (juansanti...@riseup.net) escribió: > > No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía > siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir > un hilo si se que tengo que hacerlo de abajo a

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-10 Thread Jaime Casanova
uesto, este otro párrafo: """ - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-10 Thread Jaime Casanova
, aunque así lo parece en realidad Debian como muchos otros proyectos de software libre es una *meritocracia*. > > Siguiendo esta línea de razonamiento pongo sobre la mesa la siguiente > discusión: > > La regla de Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en que >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-06 Thread Abogado
> Hola A mi personalmente me da lo mismo Top-posting o Bottom Posting. Lo que creo es que las normas se pueden modificar, no estamos en una dictadura,pero esa modificación debe ser por acuerdo entre todos y que esa norma acordada la cumplamos todos, y no como hasta ahora que unos hacen t

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-29 Thread Paynalton
El jue., 22 ago. 2019 a las 6:17, Debian () escribió: > Sí. > Nosotros, los propios usuarios, con un acuerdo, podemos modificar las > normas. > Son normas de convivencia, no leyes escritas en piedra bajadas desde lo > alto. > > Lo que habla Fran, invidente, es algo que debe incorporarse en las >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-22 Thread Debian
Sí. Nosotros, los propios usuarios, con un acuerdo, podemos modificar las normas. Son normas de convivencia, no leyes escritas en piedra bajadas desde lo alto. Lo que habla Fran, invidente, es algo que debe incorporarse en las normas. No se me había pasado siquiera por la mente. Podemos

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian Forever
:50, Fran Torres escribió: > > Buenas, > > yo siempre suelo hacer incapié en la accesibilidad (como usuario > invidente de debian). De hecho, si no me equivoco, en la lista > debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el > top-posting. Por qué? > Por que

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread juan
la lista debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el top-posting. Por qué? Por que con lectores de pantalla, es mucho más sencillo, rápido y eficiente, leer la última respuesta como la primera. la penúltima como la segunda y así sucesivamente. Es decir, top-posting. A demás, si

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Fran Torres
Buenas, yo siempre suelo hacer incapié en la accesibilidad (como usuario invidente de debian). De hecho, si no me equivoco, en la lista debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el top-posting. Por qué? Por que con lectores de pantalla, es mucho más sencillo, rápido y

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian
"Asunto", agregando al final la palabra "solucionado", así: Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting - [SOLUCIONADO] |Y la respuesta directa a un ||usuario||creo que la mayoría la ||consideramos||improcedente, ||creo que mailman pude bloquear esta posibilidad siempre que los corr

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread juan
|No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir un hilo si se que tengo que hacerlo de abajo a arriba, pero lo más importante es que nos pongamos de acuerdo, ya que el verdadero desbarajuste

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian
Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en que la mayoría de los usuarios Debian usábamos clientes sólo texto por su versatilidad, rapidez y muchas otras cosas que en su tiempo superaban a cualquier cliente gráfico. Sin embargo a más de una década desde entonces, además del

OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Paynalton
mayor base tecnológica de nuestros tiempos, se ha convertido en un ejemplo de lo que una organización democrática bien organizada puede lograr. Siguiendo esta línea de razonamiento pongo sobre la mesa la siguiente discusión: La regla de Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en

Paid Guest Posting

2019-07-22 Thread Jason Dunlap
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Re: (OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Kenneth Parker writes: > I have a special issue: Using Gmail on a Phone or Tablet (I have > both). Both of those devices lack a proper keyboard. That makes them unsuitable for composing anything but very short messages, and wholly unsuitable for editing text. > Seriously, how do others of you

Re: (OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-14 Thread Anders Andersson
computer. Using an inferior tool is no excuse to inconvenience others. My pet peeve here is when people try to use the Stack Exchange app or whatever, and excuse the lousy formatting on "I'm on the phone", but thanks for pointing out another one: gmail top posting! It's bad enough in an a

(OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:07 PM Ric Moore wrote: > > > > Same reason some people top post. They just ignore the conventions. > I have a special issue: Using Gmail on a Phone or Tablet (I have both). I have yet to find a Straightforward way to Snip lots of lines, using the Android App.

Re: trouble posting

2018-05-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 24 May 2018 12:16:20 -0500 Glenn Holmer wrote: Hello Glenn, >Can anyone help me diagnose this? Probably not, given the lack of information supplied. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately

Re: trouble posting

2018-05-24 Thread Joe
elp me diagnose > this? > Keep trying, use that address more. When I started posting here, most of my early posts disappeared, but eventually they were all getting through. I suspect an undocumented anti-spam feature. -- Joe

trouble posting

2018-05-24 Thread Glenn Holmer
I've been subscribed to this list from a different address for some time and receive messages properly, but the few posts I make from that address never appear on the list. Can anyone help me diagnose this? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-13 Thread cbannister
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 07:52:46PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 11 May 2016 at 06:36:43 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > > > > "Do not submit an

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 May 2016 at 06:36:43 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > >

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread cbannister
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > paste.debian.net and including a link in your post." > > > > From 

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-10 Thread cbannister
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 12:41:10PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > You know, I thought I had tried switching themes with out success. I just > tried it again and the Oxygen theme cleared up the problem. So this is the solution to a problem in another thread? :/ -- The media's the most powerful

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 04:38:53PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > You know, I just looked at http://paste.debian,net. The site seems to be > more for pasting code snippets than anything else. While there is nothing > wrong with this, I don't see why they don't just paste the code directly > into

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Gary Roach
about the posting problems. I seem to struck a nerve somewhere. I think that the discussion on attachments, file sizes and rejected email practices has been of some value in itself. Thank you everyone for your participation. Gary R.

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 07:08:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Ralph Sanchez writes: > > I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very > > rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost to > > lay wire would be more then they have. My thinking is, we have

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread heqami...@runbox.com
On 05/03/2016 05:18 AM, Gary Roach wrote: > I still haven't found a solution for the disappearance of all of my > desktop icons. They are replaced with little transparent squares. They > still work though. Try to change the theme you are using and/or install some new themes. and/or install a

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 May 2016 at 07:51:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100): > > >On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in > >>t

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100): On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless of nominal size, thus can feel safe

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Brian
of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in > the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless > of nominal size, thus can feel safe their disk space won't be wasted, and Avoid sending large attachments. is the advice: https://www.debian.org/Mai

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 04:18:59 Gary Roach wrote: > I still haven't found a solution for the disappearance of all of my > desktop icons. They are replaced with little transparent squares. They > still work though. This problem got lost. I should start a new thread and explain it clearly,

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-05-01 11:57 (UTC-0400): So I'd like to prose a compromise that recognizes the folks still on dialup and at dialup speeds. Possibly paying by the minute for access. Some pay by the byte even with high bandwidth. Not attaching binaries is about not being wasteful

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Felix Miata
in the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless of nominal size, thus can feel safe their disk space won't be wasted, and internet bandwidth won't be wasted, on things a select few have interest in or will be opening. It's little different than the waste that is HTML

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 05:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi I wouldn't send pictures

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread John Hasler
Ralph Sanchez writes: > I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very > rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost to > lay wire would be more then they have. My thinking is, we have GPS > that works nearly (ok maybe not) everywhere you'd go and want >

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 00:38:53 Gary Roach wrote: > Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without > penalizing the rest of us. "The rest of us" don't have any desire to send pictures and are not being penalised. Lisi

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Ralph Sanchez
On the subject of Dialup, and this is me speaking for just me, but I'd rather have to walk five blocks everytime I need internet then spend 20 a month on dial up :/ I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers probably live in very rural areas where maybe other forms aren't available, or the cost

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/02/2016 07:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send anything other than

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 May 2016 15:01:12 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > >

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or > > > send anything other than plain text files. This leaves me

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 May 2016 at 08:44:53 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > [...] > > > That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into > > the bit bucket [...] > > I doubt that part. Especially having already received

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: > > > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem if > > I wish to post a screen shot. I have

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 11:44 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [...] That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into the bit bucket [...] I doubt that part. Especially having

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 09:59:13AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [...] > That coupled with the fact that this list just throws rejects into > the bit bucket [...] I doubt that part. Especially having already received rejects from some Debian list due to

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 10:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:59:13 Gary Roach wrote: Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a bit on the site restrictions. Why? Most people manage fine. If you would only answer the questions you are asked, you would get more

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Richard Hector
On 02/05/16 03:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > So I'd like to prose a compromise that recognizes the folks still > on dialup and at dialup speeds. Possibly paying by the minute for > access. > > Accept the attachment, but strip it from the message that goes > back out to the list and store it on

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 09:59 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I need to re-read Gene Haskett's suggestion again and try to > impliment  > it. Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a > bit  > on the site restrictions. You could probably file a bug about reject notices. As for

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Siard
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:12:00 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send > anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a problem > if I wish to post a screen shot. I have been told that debian has a > paste bin. Does anyone know

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:59:13 Gary Roach wrote: > Dial up or no dial up I really think Debian needs to loosen up a bit > on the site restrictions. Why? Most people manage fine. If you would only answer the questions you are asked, you would get more help faster. Lisi

Re: Sorry. :-( Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/01/2016 04:46 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 12:33:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:12:00 Gary Roach wrote: I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or send anything other than plain text files. I just sent a screenshot half an hour ago and

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 10:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago.  It has not so far > > > > turned > > > > > up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up.  Whilst > > > Debian Users list

Re: Posting picture files

2016-05-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 May 2016 16:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2016-05-01 at 10:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I tried sending a screenshot 25 minutes ago.  It has not so far > > > > turned > > > > > up. But another email I sent 5 minutes ago has turned up.  Whilst > > > Debian Users list

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