On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 04:30:29PM +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 11:26:04PM -0400, Jeff Maxson uttered:
> > I don't think that was their point. It is not viral in that respect, but
> > it is viral in that (from what I understand) anything GPL'ed can't get
> > sucked into an
On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 11:26:04PM -0400, Jeff Maxson uttered:
> I don't think that was their point. It is not viral in that respect, but
> it is viral in that (from what I understand) anything GPL'ed can't get
> sucked into another program without that other program being required to
> be GPL'ed
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As to linux being viral, I'm guessing that they are assuming the
> majority of viruses and worms (or what have you) are being
> produced on a linux system. After all, linux has always been a
I don't think that was their point. It is not viral in th
On Friday 17 August 2001 07:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As to linux being viral, I'm guessing that they are assuming the
> majority of viruses and worms (or what have you) are being
> produced on a linux system.
The term 'viral' in connection with Linux or Open Source software in general
On 16 Aug 2001, at 22:01, Allen Wayne Best wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 August 2001 21:44, Michael Heldebrant pronounced:
> > On 15 Aug 2001 19:48:49 -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Reames) writes:
> > >
> > > > I seriously doubt Linux or Open Source will be ever outlawed.
On Wednesday 15 August 2001 21:44, Michael Heldebrant pronounced:
> On 15 Aug 2001 19:48:49 -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Reames) writes:
> >
> > > I seriously doubt Linux or Open Source will be ever outlawed. No
> > > matter what MS does. Too many companies rely on it (
On 15 Aug 2001 12:43:38 -0500, Randy Reames wrote:
> Meanwhile, behind the facade of an innocent looking bookstore Michael
> Heldebrant wrote:
> >
> > My prediction is that Linux will be outlawed in 3 years as a system
> > which is legally declared as "primarily" for copyright circumvention.
> >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (W. Paul Mills) writes:
> Even the US Postal Service uses Linux ;-)
So that's the secret of Lance Armstrong? Linuxabolica! ;-)
SCNR
Jan Ulrich
--
Heute ist der 3. Oktober! Basta!
http://www.sudelbuch.de/1999/19991109.html
Meanwhile, behind the facade of an innocent looking bookstore Michael
Heldebrant wrote:
>
> My prediction is that Linux will be outlawed in 3 years as a system
> which is legally declared as "primarily" for copyright circumvention.
> Just wait until MS buys their way out of the lawsuit with the
>
On 15 Aug 2001 19:48:49 -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Reames) writes:
>
> > I seriously doubt Linux or Open Source will be ever outlawed. No
> > matter what MS does. Too many companies rely on it (whether they
> > admit it or not). Hotmail is still full of FreeBSD machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Reames) writes:
> I seriously doubt Linux or Open Source will be ever outlawed. No
> matter what MS does. Too many companies rely on it (whether they
> admit it or not). Hotmail is still full of FreeBSD machines.
> Besides even Hollywood, one of the biggest industries in
Meanwhile, behind the facade of an innocent looking bookstore Allen Linkenhoker
wrote:
> Matt, regarding the potential outlawing of Linux:
>
> They can take my install CD when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
>
> (with no apologies whatsoever to the NRA and Charlton Heston ;>)
>
> Given t
at could happen!
Allen Linkenhoker
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> "Martin" == Martin F Krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> can't you install a cygwin version into your
> homedirectory???
If by "homedirectory" you mean my configuration space on the
win2000 system, yes I can, but there are two complications that
make that not so usefull. The fir
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 08:24:09PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 12:34:59AM +0100, Stig Brautaset wrote:
> | Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | > ray p wrote:
> | >
> | > > Or better yet get putty. It supports SSH 2 with public key
> | > > authentication. And is small enough
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 12:34:59AM +0100, Stig Brautaset wrote:
| Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > ray p wrote:
| >
| > > Or better yet get putty. It supports SSH 2 with public key
| > > authentication. And is small enough that you can put a key the
| > > client and the scp and sftp (FTP
Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ray p wrote:
>
> > Or better yet get putty. It supports SSH 2 with public key
> > authentication. And is small enough that you can put a key the
> > client and the scp and sftp (FTP tunnled through SSH) client on ~2
> > floppies It can be run from the flopp
ray p wrote:
Or better yet get putty. It supports SSH 2 with public key authentication. And is small enough that you can put a key the client and the scp and sftp (FTP tunnled through SSH) client on ~2 floppies It can be run from the floppy and can connect to any SSH server has a lot of very cool
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:22:39AM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote:
> | also sprach Michael A. Miller (on Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:16:15PM -0500):
> | > Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a machine where I'm not
> | > allowed to install scp? (For example, win98 and
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:22:39AM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote:
| also sprach Michael A. Miller (on Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:16:15PM -0500):
| > Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a machine where I'm not
| > allowed to install scp? (For example, win98 and win2000 machines
| > in our libraries)
|
|
Thanks for the tremendous response to my initial question. As many of
you suspected, the sysadmin mainly needed to know that I was more than a
casual user of linux. I politely, and deferentially, explained that I
would only need to run an ssh server, and that I am quite conscientious
when it come
Or better yet get putty. It supports SSH 2 with public key authentication. And
is small enough that you can put a key the client and the scp and sftp (FTP
tunnled through SSH) client on ~2 floppies It can be run from the floppy and
can connect to any SSH server has a lot of very cool features. U
At 994979775s since epoch (07/12/01 19:16:15 -0400 UTC), Michael A. Miller
wrote:
> > "Haim" == Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 1. as many people stated, DON"T use ftp. it's the most
> > dangerous protocol. use scp instead.
>
> Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> can't you install a cygwin version into your homedirectory???
If the university computers there are anything like the one at my
university, there is no such thing.
The only way to do it in
hi ya michael
> > 1. as many people stated, DON"T use ftp. it's the most
> > dangerous protocol. use scp instead.
>
> Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a machine where I'm not
> allowed to install scp? (For example, win98 and win2000 machines
> in our libraries)
am assumig you know
also sprach Michael A. Miller (on Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:16:15PM -0500):
> Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a machine where I'm not
> allowed to install scp? (For example, win98 and win2000 machines
> in our libraries)
can't you install a cygwin version into your homedirectory???
martin;
> "Haim" == Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. as many people stated, DON"T use ftp. it's the most
> dangerous protocol. use scp instead.
Can anyone suggest a way to scp from a machine where I'm not
allowed to install scp? (For example, win98 and win2000 machines
in our
* Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > > They can either let you run linux, or pay for your
> > > MCSE courses.
> >
> > I like these!
>
> That's reasonable ... as long as they've paid for everyone
> else's MCSE course who uses Windows on the campus.
Not really, only for those wh
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 05:48:56AM -0400, Rob Ransbottom wrote:
> You have gotten a lot of responses, mostly addressing technical
> aspects and implying a scorn for an admin who doesn't want linux
> on his already hetero network.
Hear, hear. It's "their" network after all.
Though, if you do not
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:15:23AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
| > > > They can either let you run linux, or pay for your
| > > > MCSE courses.
| > >
| > > That's reasonable ... as long as they've paid for
| > > everyone else's MCSE course who uses Windows
| > > on the campus.
| >
| > speaking fro
Go to google.com and enter the search "linux site:ufl.edu" -- you get over 2,000
hits, such as
http://www.circa.ufl.edu/linux/ -- the University of Florida Linux Page
http://www.software.ufl.edu/matlab/ -- site license for MATLAB includes Linux
http://wireless.ece.ufl.edu/~jshea/ -- professor w
You have gotten a lot of responses, mostly addressing technical
aspects and implying a scorn for an admin who doesn't want linux
on his already hetero network.
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Brian Stults wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the fall, I will be starting a new position as Professor of Sociology
> at the
> > > They can either let you run linux, or pay for your
> > > MCSE courses.
> >
> >
> > That's reasonable ... as long as they've paid for
> > everyone else's MCSE course who uses Windows
> > on the campus.
>
> speaking from experience (oops), the mcse doesn't
> buy you jack. okay, i didn't take co
also sprach Hall Stevenson (on Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:22:19AM -0400):
> > > They can either let you run linux, or pay for your
> > > MCSE courses.
> >
> > I like these!
>
> That's reasonable ... as long as they've paid for everyone
> else's MCSE course who uses Windows on the campus.
speaking from
> > They can either let you run linux, or pay for your
> > MCSE courses.
>
> I like these!
That's reasonable ... as long as they've paid for everyone
else's MCSE course who uses Windows on the campus.
Hall
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 10:24:45PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2001 16:33, Matthew Garman wrote:
> > I've been particularly mad about all this recently, having just read an
> > article about our Redmond boys' new licensing plan. If I read the article
> > correctly, it
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The only other similar problem I can think of is vmware related.
>
>There's also the possibility that they're thinking about DHCP. A
>number of admins can tell stories of the time someone
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:51:03AM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
| 4. disable exim/postfix/sendmail. this will mean that you won't be
able
|to send
On Wednesday 11 July 2001 16:33, Matthew Garman wrote:
> I've been particularly mad about all this recently, having just read an
> article about our Redmond boys' new licensing plan. If I read the article
> correctly, it said that on one of Microsoft's new products, their license
> states that you
Brian Stults wrote:
> and 2) they want to know that I am conscious of security issues. If
> anyone has any suggestions for the kinds of things to stress, I would be
> happy to hear them.
You might try mentioning that any of the security concerns brought up in
this thread (dhcp, samba, etc), can a
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Jason Healy wrote:
> They might be referring to using Samba and setting it up as a domain
> master. This is stupid, because a) it doesn't come configured that
> way, and b) any organization worth its salt will run a backup domain
> controller to ensure that nobody can hijack
also sprach Brian Stults (on Wed, 11 Jul 2001 03:50:18PM -0400):
> The only servers I run are an ssh server and an ftp server. I do
> not allow anonymous ftp, and I tunnel all my ftp transfers through
> ssh.
um, why??? why not use scp or sftp? the thing is: anonymous ftp is
"moderately" safe, reg
Brian Stults <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> happy to hear them. I plan on emphasizing the fact that I disable most
> services in inetd. The only servers I run are an ssh server and an ftp
> server. I do not allow anonymous ftp, and I tunnel all my ftp transfers
> through ssh. I am the only perso
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:05:42PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
| Do windoze lusers also sign that? If not, you could yell "discrimination".
| Because it's _your_ desktop. Because you don't know shit about winders.
| They can either let you run linux, or pay for your MCSE courses.
I like these
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:51:03AM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
| 4. disable exim/postfix/sendmail. this will mean that you won't be able
|to send mail locally (some applications like mutt rely on local MTA
|to send their mail).
If you use ssmtp instead of exim/other_complete_MTA you can
At 994908313s since epoch (07/11/01 22:25:13 -0400 UTC), George C. Marshall
wrote:
> Samba does like to be the master browser, but it doesn't really matter who
> is the master browser; in fact, having it be a Samba system is probably
> *better* since it is more likely to be stable, cutting down on
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 03:50:18PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the fall, I will be starting a new position as Professor of Sociology
> at the University of Florida. When I interviewed, one of my
> requirements was that I be allowed to run linux on my office computer.
> They said i
SuSe Linux has a version of linux that you can run from the cd. If you
are using a FAT filesystem, it will create two files on your computer for
you to store your settings and personal data. If you are using a NTFS
filesystem, you have to run though the setup, it only takes 2 min. It
does not rep
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 03:50:18PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote:
> talk on the phone with the sysadmin of the College of Liberal Arts and
> Sciences and explain two things: 1) they want to know why I need linux
> instead of using their unix system and having MS Windows on the desktop;
> and 2) they wa
hi ya
i donno for sure
but i would suspect getting into an NT or windows box and
sniffing from there would be easier than getting into a patched
linux box and havign somebody sniff passwd
rememboer all theose widnows box are basically "root" anyway
( okay...administrator ) and those use
* Brian Stults ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hello,
>
> In the fall, I will be starting a new position as Professor of Sociology
> at the University of Florida. When I interviewed, one of my
> requirements was that I be allowed to run linux on my office computer.
> They said it would not b
hi brian...
dont mention that you use ftp if its tunneled thru ssh ...
its not an issue... ???
if you use ssh, use scp instead of ftp anyway...
if you dont have anonymous ftp... you dont need ftp at all
if you turned off stuff you dont use... you have a reasonable box
if y
At 994884618s since epoch (07/11/01 15:50:18 -0400 UTC), Brian Stults wrote:
> and 2) they want to know that I am conscious of security issues. If
> anyone has any suggestions for the kinds of things to stress, I would be
> happy to hear them.
Our IT department was wary (though not afraid) of lin
also sprach DvB (on Wed, 11 Jul 2001 03:40:00PM -0500):
> I'm willing to be that's exactly what they're talking about. There was
> quite a to do about this a year or so ago when it happened at some large
> company which then banned linux. I believe you have to explicitly tell
> samba in the co
also sprach Chuck Stickelman (on Wed, 11 Jul 2001 04:39:42PM -0400):
> Do they make their Windows users sign the same document? Can these
> "attached conditions" be binding if you've already assigned your contract?
hehe. do they *know* what security is if they are windoze based?
just had a long c
DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The only other similar problem I can think of is vmware related.
There's also the possibility that they're thinking about DHCP. A
number of admins can tell stories of the time someone was trying to
set up a DHCP server for one of their interfaces, and they
misco
Brian Stults wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the fall, I will be starting a new position as Professor of Sociology
> at the University of Florida. When I interviewed, one of my
> requirements was that I be allowed to run linux on my office computer.
> They said it would not be a problem. However, now tha
Brian Stults wrote:
Here is one concern of theirs, though, that I don't understand. They
said one problem with linux is that it will trick their network into
thinking that my linux box is the main server, thus bringing down a
system of over 2000 users. I cannot imagine how this would happen.
Hello,
In the fall, I will be starting a new position as Professor of Sociology
at the University of Florida. When I interviewed, one of my
requirements was that I be allowed to run linux on my office computer.
They said it would not be a problem. However, now that I have signed
the contract an
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