[Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi All, Is there a filter for form spam? Some clients complain that they get form spammers sending in junk via their web forms. Some clients have captchas on their forms some don't, but I would like to be able to filter out the junk at declude level. Any ideas? Kindest Regards Crai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
: Craig Edmonds To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:16 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Hi All, Is there a filter for form spam? Some clients complain that they get form spammers sending in junk via their web forms. Some clients have captchas on

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Matt
; *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:16 AM *Subject:* [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Hi All, Is there a filter for form spam? Some clients complain that they get form spammers sending in junk via their web forms. Some clients have captchas on their forms some don't, but I would like to b

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
- Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter The form spammers are smarter than to go directly to the mail script. They will hit for the form submission page with what appears to be IE and sub

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 09 April 2008 15:09 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Hi Matt, Some do, some don't. I've seen both methods used on some customer sites. Setting session variab

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2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Thanks people for the comments. I will stick with captchas for now but it would be great if declude could figure a nice filter to deal with it, at the end of the day its still incoming spam. K

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
ude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Hi Craig, There's really nothing Declude can currently do with this. The headers will all be different, and the format and content of the messages are all different, based on what the web form handler does. That only leaves th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Matt
st people filling out the forms, and works well. Darin. - Original Message - *From:* Matt <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com <mailto:declude.junkmail@declude.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
ude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Darin, I think you missed what I was saying exactly. If the form spammer fills out the fields that are hidden by DIV's, the E-mail wouldn't be sent by the mailer script and it would prete

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Gufler Markus | Limitis
__ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:24 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Darin, I think you missed what I was saying exactly. If the form spammer fills out the fields that are

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
e to implement it. Darin. - Original Message - From: Gufler Markus | Limitis To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Matt, Darin would it possible that you both forget, that 99,9+% of all incomming fo

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Matt
No, I understood completely. I've seen forms with fields hidden by DIVs still filled out. Some of the less sophisticated spam form fillers I've seen used simply filled out every field. They were not looking to see what was "visible" and what wasn't. Actually this is the part that you misund

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
ril 09, 2008 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter No, I understood completely. I've seen forms with fields hidden by DIVs still filled out. Some of the less sophisticated spam form fillers I've seen used simply filled out every field. They were not looking

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Marc Catuogno
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:54 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Matt, I did understand. What I'm saying is that it doesn't always work. To clarify, in addition to less sophisticated automated form fillers that would fill

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Darin Cox
page is CAPTCHA. Darin. - Original Message - From: Marc Catuogno To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter One thing we did on our domain is to ban "pasting" so that the scripts couldn

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Matt
tion page is CAPTCHA. Darin. - Original Message - *From:* Marc Catuogno <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com <mailto:declude.junkmail@declude.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter One th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-10 Thread Darin Cox
f implementing CAPTCHA and its overall effectiveness, I still believe CAPTCHA is the single best method to secure a public form. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filte

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-14 Thread David Barker
ds. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:04 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Hi Matt, Parsing CAPTCHA essentially means OCR. OCR in general would be CPU-intensive. Spammers a

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, April 9, 2008, 10:01:56 AM, Craig wrote: > Hi Darin,   I guess what I am looking for from Declude (or a third party) is to provide me a filter that will phrase filter the incoming form mail and determine if its a spammy one or not. We may be able to help you. Please se

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
e.JunkMail] form spam filter On Wednesday, April 9, 2008, 10:01:56 AM, Craig wrote: > Hi Darin, I guess what I am looking for from Declude (or a third party) is to provide me a filter that will phrase filter the incoming form mail and determine if its a spammy one or not. We may be

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: 09 April 2008 16:41 To: Craig Edmonds Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter On Wednesday, April 9, 2008, 10:01:56 AM, Craig wrote: > Hi Da

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2008-04-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter Sorry for the last email everyone with the attachment, i meant to send it directly to Pete at Arm Research. I clicked the reply button wrote my mail and realised about 10 milliseconds after cl