James Livingston schrieb:
> As I haven't really contributed anything to GNOME in a year or so, I've
> been keeping out of the debate, but:
>
> On 07/01/2009, at 9:00 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
>> Welcome to the open source world. Generally open source developers are
>> not limited to GN
As I haven't really contributed anything to GNOME in a year or so,
I've been keeping out of the debate, but:
On 07/01/2009, at 9:00 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
Welcome to the open source world. Generally open source developers
are
not limited to GNOME, and they eventually learn 2-3
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:09:27AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
> > I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
> > of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches v
ach volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
> hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
> able to gather at least 10 volunteers and together we can do it, even
> using our spare time.
This would be a good idea in my opinion. For example an expert in
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:30 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> 2009/1/6 Alexander Larsson :
> > On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> >> > From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav,
> >> > who
> >> > proposed
2009/1/6 Alexander Larsson :
> On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>> > From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
>> > proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
>> >
hink common tasks which random contributors need
> to achieve can be documented for all VCS-es (checkout, do some changes
> and commit or create a patch). Just like various modules are using
> various programming languages or even build systems.
This idea was discussed when the DVCS thin
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
> > proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
> > plugin for the bzr repo server.
>
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
> proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
> plugin for the bzr repo server.
I wonder whether you received interesting ideas in the survey i
n top of a svn repository.
I must say that bzr-playground is very nicely put and a good
proof-of-concept of this. Maybe the DVCS "switch" should move more
along these lines: provide branch mirrors in other protocols besides
svn.
> That makes git users
> angry since git-svn doesn’t
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 03:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> So, here is what I'm bringing to the table: I'm volunteering to work
> with
> interested fd.o admins and other volunteers to switch GNOME to git. I
> need to
> first go check to see if I can secure enough time to lead this, and if
> I ca
to use bzr.
I am exceedingly less convinced that the advantages of supporting both
outweigh the disadvantages (looking at the usage patterns, not the
technical merits).
I was on the fence about this, especially because I prefer bzr to git.
But Ruben is right on the money. Implementing DVC
2009-01-06 klockan 08:21 skrev Max Kanat-Alexander:
> Git really has no API, you just run the commands and get the output.
> *Subversion* actually had the best API when I was writing VCI, FWIW.
> Git and CVS had the worst API, in terms of integration. There may be
> better modules available now, th
Hi,
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Dave Neary wrote:
>> This is only true if you don't believe that future contributions to the
>> GNOME base are dependent of the RCS we decide to host on gnome.org
>> (should we decide to host only one).
>
> You are of course right. I probably should also have added
2009/1/6 Josselin Mouette :
> Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
>> I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
>> of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
>> mailing lists or bugzilla
vey was to
give us solid numbers. How do we do it for anything other than current
account holders?
> Another question: what is the cost associated with hosting multiple
> DVCSes? I understand of course that most people don't even have one SCM
> tool installed on their system. But for tho
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 05:18 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > That’s foolish. We are certainly not going to clone 208 repositories for
> > all GNOME packages we maintain. Especially when the tools to manage
> > Debian packages with DVCSes are still inferior to thos
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 13:10 +1100, Andrew Cowie a écrit :
> Regardless, GNOME is not "switching" to anything. If GNOME
> infrastructure is going to offer Git hosting, that's lovely for people
> who chose to use Git as their version control system. {shrug} fine. If
> GNOME infrastructure concur
one SCM
tool installed on their system. But for those not using a DVCS, moving
from 0 to 1 is the big move, and I am not sure that there is a huge cost
to having both git and bzr hosting on gnome.org, for official GNOME
projects (especially if those who want to use a git client for
bzr-hosted project
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
>> I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
>> of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
>> mailing lists or bugzilla could
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:09:36AM +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:
> So don't tell us it's equivalent. It's not. And let's not forget the
I did not see anyone saying that.
Anyway, I retract my proposal. This isn't fun anymore.
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On di, 2009-01-06 at 04:53 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Ali Sabil wrote:
>
> > Concerning the asserted flaws in John's proposal, the only valid point,
> > is that it will need testing as the implementation is not very mature
> > yet,
>
> And that's a HUGE issue, mind you.
Here's another prob
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
> I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
> of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
> mailing lists or bugzilla could use a DVCS the same way as a core
>
Ali Sabil wrote:
> Concerning the asserted flaws in John's proposal, the only valid point,
> is that it will need testing as the implementation is not very mature
> yet,
And that's a HUGE issue, mind you.
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On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 16:41 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> >
>
> Heh, thanks a lot. This looks nice. Nicer than the one in gnulib that
> Rui Tiago pointed out. Although I must say not as nice as my 'gnulog'
> bazaar log formatter plugin.. ;-) But I guess good enough that I'd be
> c
> From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
> proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
> plugin for the bzr repo server. I think many people pointed out the major
> flaws in that scenario. I want to stress that we should not make
7;s perhaps a
> bit worse, because it means people in all three systems (+ svn makes
> four) will lose the easy way they have of collaborating. But again,
> whatever.
Yeah, whatever. I can't care less about what you prefer because you are
already using it and are happy about it. Ke
d
> pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
> lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
> an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
> *any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a larger issu
h svn commit access would be practically
> unmanageable...and far more likely to be suspected of
> non-representative-ness [New word!].
I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
mailing lists or
So, I'm not a GNOME contributor, but I am the author of VCI, a
Perl module that interacts with version control systems (currently CVS,
Svn, Hg, Git, and Bzr), and so I wanted to chime in a bit on this
thread.
The first thing to understand is that the git server protocol
is very sim
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:40:18 -0500 David Zeuthen wrote:
> Then what happens when a new version of git with a new feature,
> incompatible with the git-serve kludge, is released?
I don't know if you've talked to the git developers, but
they're very firmly against adding any new features to
Hi,
[Disclaimer: I wasn't involved in the construction or running of the
survey, other than the analysis you saw plus some late feedback on the
survey questions (I think my feedback was merely to suggest the
"other" answer for contributor types.)]
2009/1/5 Andrew Cowie :
> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at
hat switching to Bazaar was an unbelievable
breath of fresh air after so much pain using Git. I wrote about that
briefly here:
http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/version-control/git-is-like-cvs.html
I've been using DVCS systems for a long long time. I have great respec
Mathias Hasselmann wrote:
> Am I missing something?
Make build.gnome.org work with the new setup; I plan to write some
requirements (nothing fancy, and stuffs that will most probably be
also required elsewhere).
There may also be some other infrastructure systems that would
require some porting
On ma, 2009-01-05 at 12:32 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid wrote:
> >
> > 6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be
> > updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with
> > git. There should also be a short i
On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid wrote:
>
> 6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be
> updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with
> git. There should also be a short introduction to git somewhere on the
> wiki. And some announcements should
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
>> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> > I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
>> > CoC, I don't like you're talking to me.
>
gt; From the survey opening page:
> > >
> > > Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey is run on
> > > behalf
> > > of the GNOME Foundation board of directors, release team, and sysadmin
> > > team.
> > > The GNOME proj
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
> > CoC, I don't like you're talking to me.
>
> Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's person
Hi!
Am Montag, den 05.01.2009, 16:23 +0100 schrieb Mathias Hasselmann:
> First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey
> for giving us numbers.
>
> Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes.
> No idea why that many people become personal. This is
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 16:19 +0100, Frederic Peters a écrit :
> Olav announced it on October 29th:
>
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2008-October/msg4.html
D’uh, I have missed that.
Time to update my checkouts now…
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:00:52AM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
> I'd like to help with another path forward, namely native git
> repositories since I believe that is what most of the community wants.
> As you said, it isn't clear how it could work for non-sysadmins to
> come up with clear proposal
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> BTW, do we have the resources to migrate the repository to the SVN 1.5
> format? It looks like, independently from other decisions, a quick and
> easy way to improve the situation – and to improve it right now, not in
> 2010.
Olav announced it on October 29th:
http://
First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey
for giving us numbers.
Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes.
No idea why that many people become personal. This is really unpleasant.
Third of all: What so complicated about this migration? As fa
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 09:51 -0500, Dan Winship a écrit :
> It seems pretty clear that the git-over-bzr solution doesn't make the
> git users any happier than git-over-svn does, so let's not pretend that
> it's any different from doing just bzr. So, given that we seem to have
> sysadmin resourc
the git
> protocol is updated and backward compatibility is removed? We will
> need to wait until the "git serve plugin" is updated, possibly
> rewritten.
>
> Third, every repository format has advantages and drawbacks. So far it
> looks like the git repository format w
Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> [0] I'm reasonably sure it has some. not as the one proposed to avoid
> pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
> lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
> an abstraction over DVCS? what have
Ali Sabil a écrit :
That's not what John's proposal is about ! John wants to use the bzr format
as a repository format, and add a git-serve plugin to bzr to be able to
"talk" to the git clients. In other words, you will be able to access the
same data using either bzr, git or hg.
Well, if peopl
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a
> proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns
> suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they
> want. Th
2009/1/5 Ali Sabil :
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
>> > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
>> > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That i
pen tommorow
>
> No, it already happened and it is called Subversion. This is the only
> repository format that all major DVCS clients can talk to.
The only? It's actually easier to convert hg/bzr to/from git than svn.
Good luck making sense of a complicated DSCM
time is not so important.
>
> Thank you for voicing your opinion.
>
>
>>> just all move on?
>> Further, your explanation is incomplete. As you said, the graph is about
>> people knowing two DVCS systems. I wouldn't say I knew 2. Those 6 are
>> incom
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 20:32 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME.
> > From the survey opening page:
> >
> > Thank you for t
rase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
*any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a larger issue with
the GNOME community: we are being afraid.
Exactly. The idea that our gnome vcs infrast
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 23:44 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> I'd agree if you could not properly see a project's commit history on a
> web interface, like with viewvc for svn, but since you can:
>
> http://git.clutter-project.org/cgit.cgi?url=clutter/log/
>
> your point is moot.
Sorr
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:41 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
> écrit :
> > On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
> > projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
> > that my
2009/1/5 Josselin Mouette :
> Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
> écrit :
>> On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
>> projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
>> that my main problem was that with SVN I *
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
> On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
> projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
> that my main problem was that with SVN I *needed* the ChangeLog since
> that
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
> CoC, I don't like you're talking to me.
Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's personal and like I'm
assaulting you. Because I didn't. And I resent the accusa
ed Subversion. This is the only
repository format that all major DVCS clients can talk to.
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On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:05:30PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
> > > terrible idea?
> >
> > You expe
proposed to avoid
pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
*any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a
likely that such a system
Proposed solution doesn't take a long time to finish.
> will support more than a common subset of the features of the underlying
> DVCS system.
[..]
> Second, a VCS system is something that just has to work. I doubt many
> people really care a lot about wha
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
> > terrible idea?
>
> You expect me to reply to this??!?
I expected you to reply to the other three mail
nts that's fine but this
won't happen tommorow and I will need a huge amount of time to be
finished and tested. And in addition it's unlikely that such a system
will support more than a common subset of the features of the underlying
DVCS system.
First, be honest, we need to dec
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
> terrible idea?
You expect me to reply to this??!?
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
> > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
> > crazy to officially want
it support. Nothing about
> > Hg, nothing about doing partly Git, partly Bzr.
>
> The potential problem I see is all of the remote branches will use
> different DVCS that do not support git + hg + bzr. So eventually all
Again: No Hg.
> of us will be forced to use all three to
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:33 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
> > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
> > crazy to officially want
lem I see is all of the remote branches will use
different DVCS that do not support git + hg + bzr. So eventually all
of us will be forced to use all three tools in order to merge changes
from remote branches (unless we expect *all* people to provide *all*
changes as patches in which case I
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
> the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
> crazy to officially want to support git, bzr and hg *at* the same time
> *from* the sam
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:20 +0100, Ali Sabil wrote:
> First, it only makes it much harder for users to grasp; we're
> going to
> end up with some projects have l.g.o pages / README files /
> mailing list
> messages saying "use bzr to check out this branch" an
;
> > >> It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is
> > >> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
> > >> gnome.
> > >
> > > BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I shou
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:16 +0100, Robin Sonefors wrote:
> > How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I heard (don't
> know
> > if it's true or not) git repo usually takes less diskspace then svn
> > checkout. This page seems to support this claim:
>
> A complete git repo is usually smal
David Zeuthen wrote:
> I don't find this answer compelling. At all. It also doesn't answer the
> question. It's not unlikely that a future git repo format is
> fundamentally incompatible with current or future bzr repo formats.
Just like I noted it was just an understanding of John's proposal;
be
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
> > Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats
> > and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format
> > changed and it didn't cause any pr
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Matthias Clasen schrieb:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
>>> As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
>>> will support you, and support you well
ike this is
> >> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
> >> gnome.
> >
> > BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
> > to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from
> >
Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
>
> Yes, it does. This is not an issue.
I think non-git users already knows that git can do everything™, but
they would learn about git ways faster if you poi
#x27; system like this is
> >> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
> >> gnome.
> >
> > BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
> > to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build f
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats
> and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format
> changed and it didn't cause any problem for users). I don't think
> there is a problem here.
I d
he size of
>> gnome.
>
> BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
> to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from
> git needs ~740MB :-/
How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I heard (don't know
if it'
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> People using JHBuild to develop one project against latest code or
> simply testing the whole desktop don't need the full history for all
> GNOME Desktop modules
>
> bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
git-clone has a --dep
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
Yes, it does. This is not an issue.
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Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
> It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is
> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
> gnome.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I s
David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
> > As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
> > will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
> > talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move
>
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> I can commit that much time as long as there's clear delegation of
>> work by--preferably--the sysadmin team. I don't want to sit on a
>> committee that does a lot of deciding and no actual doing.
>
> What do you mean with delegation?
>
> Whic
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:01 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
> help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
> hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
> able to gather at least
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 03:06:22PM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
> > How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
> > help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
> > hours is a very sm
lution", it's a
> workaround to the problem that we don't have (human) resources to do a
> move to git.
That is only part of it. Also a case of trust. Anyway, I saw people
saying a DVCS must happen in 2009, just saying that I don't se
2009/1/4 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro :
> Just in case I am forced to switch to git in the future (being open
> minded here, although I prefer bazaar), does someone have any advice how
> to generate a nice GNU style ChangeLog (like what emacs produces) from
> git commit logs? I know that some project
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
>> As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
>> will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
>> talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its
2009/1/4 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro :
> Just in case I am forced to switch to git in the future (being open
> minded here, although I prefer bazaar), does someone have any advice how
> to generate a nice GNU style ChangeLog (like what emacs produces) from
> git commit logs? I know that some project
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
> help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
> hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
> able to gather at least 10
Hi!
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> Moving will not be easy, obviously. But doing it John's way will be,
>> in my technical analysis, an order of magn
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
> As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
> will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
> talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move
> forward. So i dont consider i
2009-01-04 klockan 15:10 skrev Jason D. Clinton:
> I'd like to point out that--of the 15 people who regularly use git and
> bzr--git still won.
Two remarks.
First remark: In the survey I answered that I do not really know much about
git, and that I do not use it often. This has a reason, which I
On 1/4/09, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
>
> Just in case I am forced to switch to git in the future (being open
> minded here, although I prefer bazaar), does someone have any advice how
> to generate a nice GNU style ChangeLog (like what emacs produces) from
> git commit logs? I know that
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME.
> From the survey opening page:
>
> Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey is run on behalf
> of the GNOME Foundation boa
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Carr wrote:
> I'm not a complete idiot - if it was going to be a "degraded,
> bastardized form" of Git I wouldn't waste my time on it. I suppose I
> might be an evil genius stalling for "Bazaar DS9" to be written (sorry
> for the very bad joke that probably on
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