On 6/12/06, Bryce Harrington <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Chang-Won,Thanks for giving this update on the sub-working group activities. Inthese activities, have you discussed including open source developersin your region that might not otherwise be involved in dtl?
...
So to your question about
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 09:23 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Bryce Harrington wrote:
>
> But the whole idea of open source is that it is open _to users_. With
> few exceptions, most open source developers are really just users that
> got very passionate and curious. ;-)
>
On 14 Jun 2006, at 20:31, Gregory Raiz wrote:
> Traditional usability will allow you to collect feedback on
> observable human
> behavior. Usability is typically not as good a tool for collecting
> feedback
> on broader design issues across a project.
>
> "I know I can't use it, but don't ask
Traditional usability will allow you to collect feedback on observable human
behavior. Usability is typically not as good a tool for collecting feedback
on broader design issues across a project.
"I know I can't use it, but don't ask me how to fix it."
Usability will tell you that a specific fun
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:27:01AM -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:52, SAKUMA Junichi wrote:
> > In the meeting they talked about harshness in particular about coding
> > styles.
>
> this varies wildly from project to project ... some projects are very good
> about thi
On 14 Jun 2006, at 19:31, Bryce Harrington wrote:
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> The approach we've taken is to encourage users with ideas, to make
> sure
> they're recorded in the RFE tracker (i.e., look for a similar idea
> already filed, and add to that, or create a new ticket if its a new
> idea.) This gets the feedb
On 14 Jun 2006, at 19:16, Mike Hearn wrote:
> On 6/14/06, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Indeed... I've often thought that larger OSS projects might benefit
>> from a "feedback squad"
>
> That could prove difficult. One of the unfortunate tendencies within
> the open source community
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 06:55:13PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
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> On 14 Jun 2006, at 18:23, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >
> > we also tend to do a crappy job of dealing with the input when we
> > get it.
> > well, some of us anyways. we're painting with broad brush strokes
> > here that
> > don't
On 6/14/06, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed... I've often thought that larger OSS projects might benefit
> from a "feedback squad"
That could prove difficult. One of the unfortunate tendencies within
the open source community - of both users and developers - is to try
and "educate
On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Calum Benson wrote:
> Indeed... I've often thought that larger OSS projects might benefit
> from a "feedback squad" in much the same way that they have bug
> squads... a team of people whose job is to patrol mailing lists, web
> forums, IRC and bug reports, and collate
On 14 Jun 2006, at 18:23, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>
> we also tend to do a crappy job of dealing with the input when we
> get it.
> well, some of us anyways. we're painting with broad brush strokes
> here that
> don't cover everyone equally =)
Indeed... I've often thought that larger OSS projec
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 10:55, Tim Bray wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> >> With
> >> few exceptions, most open source developers are really just users
> >> that
> >> got very passionate and curious. ;-)
>
> I *really* don't think so. Most OSS developers are people who
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:52, SAKUMA Junichi wrote:
> In the meeting they talked about harshness in particular about coding
> styles. Suppose a beginner gets up the nerve and submits his or her
> first patch to an OSS developers list. Instead of praising his or her
> spirits, OSS gurus in the li
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Bryce Harrington wrote:
>>
>> With
>> few exceptions, most open source developers are really just users
>> that
>> got very passionate and curious. ;-)
I *really* don't think so. Most OSS developers are people who like
computers and like programming computers and like
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Bryce Harrington wrote:
>
> But the whole idea of open source is that it is open _to users_. With
> few exceptions, most open source developers are really just users that
> got very passionate and curious. ;-)
>
> Thus the OSS development model works when users go beyond
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:04:05 -0700
Bryce Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 08:42:46PM +0900, Chang-Won Ahn (ETRI) wrote:
> > On 6/9/06, SAKUMA Junichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Discussions
> > >- Food for thoughts by Jun Iio, Mitsubishi Research Institute
> > >
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:18:59 -0600
"Aaron J. Seigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMHO what more people downloading Sylpheed shows that there are orders of
> magnitude more desktop windows users than desktop linux users and that
> people, regardless of OS they use, like free stuff. so if even a sm
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