httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Folks, I'm going to propose something radical. Although Jeff's recent commit points out a potentially serious problem (discrepancy between the file size and file offset types) in the Win32 APR, which I will look at today, this server appears rather stable, and buildable, and rbb will have 't

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-07 Thread rbb
There are a couple of bugs in the STATUS file that I started hunting today. Can we shoot for a tarball roll of sometime on Thursday or Friday? I agree, the no-freeze model just doesn't work in this environment. Ryan On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Folks, > > I'm going to

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-07 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
william, the apache project is, i assume, suffering from the effects of many developers using cvs at the same time? if so, can i recommend reading the description of how to ease the pain of #3 below, described in http://advogato.org/article/247.html it outlines how to use cvs to do one or more s

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-07 Thread rbb
I'm tagging and rolling right now. The tree currently builds on Windows and Linux, and I believe based on Jeff's recent commits, I have to believe that it compiles everyplace else. It also works on OS/2 and BeOS AFAIK. Tag and roll coming in the next hour or so. Ryan On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Will

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
"William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can we begin a code freeze, excepting _minor_ build and code fixes, until > we have > a stable tarball ready to share? I have win32 folks trying to make > apache2.0a9 build, > this just doesn't make any sense. Once Ryan's patch is in, let'

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-08 Thread Roy T. Fielding
> I agree, the no-freeze model just doesn't work in this environment. The no-freeze model hasn't even been tested in this environment. It is necessary for the code to be in a stable state in order to do a release at any time, regardless of a freeze. At no time in the past six months has the code

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> create a release based on an ongoing frantic development tree, all you > have to do is selectively tag the repository to include only those > revisions that you consider to be stable. There is no rule that requires > the entire HEAD to be tagged at once, and there is nothing wrong with > moving

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-09 Thread Greg Stein
I don't think it has anything to do with mechanics, nor will throwing more process at the problem fix it. (more process will simply bog down what we can accomplish) No... the problem is about perception. The rate of change recently has just been quite high. It just isn't very conceivable to make a

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > I don't think it has anything to do with mechanics, nor will throwing more > process at the problem fix it. (more process will simply bog down what we > can accomplish) ...? if nothing else: cd apr cvs tag -b apr_dev [needs recursive option] cd .. mkdir

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-09 Thread rbb
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > > > I don't think it has anything to do with mechanics, nor will throwing more > > process at the problem fix it. (more process will simply bog down what we > > can accomplish) > > ...? if nothing e

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-09 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:54:29AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > > > > > I don't think it has anything to do with mechanics, nor will throwing more > > > process at the problem fix it. (more pro

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > surely that's not too much process to cause more pain than the benefits > > are worth, neh? > > There is a lot of resistance to using tags and branches the way you > suggest Luke. okay: i have to admit - i made a mistake in "oversimplifying" what i suggested [full branching of an entire sub-t

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
sorry: this suggestion - a full tagging of an entire project - was a mistake. i repeat, i am NOT advocating that the use of branching like this is a good idea. in fact, it is an extremely dangerous one. imo. luke On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, G

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > > _however_ :) > > Saw that coming :-) oh, darn :) > > > once you _get_ to the point where cvs main is > > > always-releasable, then using this multi-tag process could help make cvs > > > main _remain_ always-releasable. > > We only need it releasable when we want to release :-) > > Serio

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> ... i've worked in long-term branches. > > i do not recommend it. afterthought. just to clarify, the above sentence is a serious understatement. luke - Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - "i want a world of dreams, run by near-sighted visionaries" "good. that's them

Re: httpd-2.0/apr/apr-util Code Freeze

2001-03-16 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
greg et al, just to let you know. i just had to set up, here, a second "partial tag", this time quite a significant rewrite of my database modules and the way they're being used in the project i'm doing. i tagged just the db.py, monitord.py and sql2000xmldb.py files. i then found whoops, a bug