Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 04:21 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit :
Tony Collen wrote:
...We might need to get away from the developer vs user notion,
because depending on how much about
Cocoon you already know, you might have to hack out a new generator
(which would seem to imply
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
PLEASE, don't start this discussion over and over again. We
have (after
a long painful discussion period) decided (or better reassured) that
we create a new repository for 2.2. And Stefano wanted to contact
infrastructure to create the 2.2 one.
I hope my comment
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 06:01 Europe/Rome, Geoff Howard wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I started processing the GT video tapes.
Each talk is about 50/60 minutes long, DV compression is about
10Gb/hour. Means that I have to process 60Gb of stuff.
...
It needs 8 hours per hour on my G4
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 11:36 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 04:21 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit :
Tony Collen wrote:
...We might need to get away from the developer vs user notion,
because depending on how much about
Cocoon you already know,
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
I'm starting to think (and I think this resonates with what Tony was
saying) that the physical structure of the docs should be flat,
wiki-style, having all docs files (real files or generated) in a
single directory, of very few directories like reference,
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 14:25 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a
écrit :
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...We can then build all kinds of navigational structures, trails,
multiple tables of contents, beginners/advanced, whatever (again
picking up on wiki idea of a flat page structure with many
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 14:11 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a
écrit :
...I think the documents should have a *numerical* identifier that
equates them with a URI.
http://cocoon.apache.org/cocoon/LO/3948494
I like the unique ID idea, OTOH not having descriptive names makes it
hard for
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 14:25 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit :
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...We can then build all kinds of navigational structures, trails,
multiple tables of contents, beginners/advanced, whatever (again
picking up on wiki idea of a
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 14:25 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrote:
Please don't forget Forrest.
we are not.
I thought about it and I totally resonate with Bertrand: we need to
outline an incremental transition to our own CMS reusing as much dog
food as possible (which is also good for
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 14:58 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 14:11 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a
écrit :
...I think the documents should have a *numerical* identifier that
equates them with a URI.
http://cocoon.apache.org/cocoon/LO/3948494
I
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
...
NOTE: this is *NOT* something that will replace either forrest or lenya.
In fact, the idea of this system is to show off *all* the cocoon-related
technologies we have in one big showcase for our own use. So, both
forrest and lenya should be happy to participate
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 15:33 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a
écrit :
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 14:58 Europe/Rome, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
...How about naming files like
3948494-some-descriptive-name-for-humans-here.xml
It's like suggesting to have a BugID
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
...Messy. what would something like this behave?
22003-this-is-first-doc.xml
22003-this-is-second-doc.xml
...
that's what I meant by the system having to ensure the uniqueness of
IDs. It is certainly problematic.
Look at Forrest, we have been having super-easy
Hi,
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Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
...Messy. what would something like this behave?
22003-this-is-first-doc.xml
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 16:54 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a
écrit :
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
...Messy. what would something like this behave?
22003-this-is-first-doc.xml
22003-this-is-second-doc.xml
...
that's what I meant by the system having to ensure the uniqueness of
IDs.
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 16:54 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
...Messy. what would something like this behave?
22003-this-is-first-doc.xml
22003-this-is-second-doc.xml
...
that's what I meant by the system having to ensure the uniqueness of
IDs.
Le Samedi, 11 oct 2003, à 17:19 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a
écrit :
...my point is that we should make it hard for people to edit stuff in
the repository directly...
Ok, I see the idea.
There's one additional concern though, which was undelying in my
suggestions: it should be as easy
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Just for the sake of those of us who know less than you, Cocoon gods.
What is the advantage of using an all-numeric filename instead of
alphanumeric?
If I'm not mistaken by what I sleepily read this morning, you are
proposing a flat
big bag of documents. So, if there's no hierarchy, an
Stefano Mazzocchi dijo:
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 14:25 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrote:
Please don't forget Forrest.
we are not.
I thought about it and I totally resonate with Bertrand: we need to
outline an incremental transition to our own CMS reusing as much dog
food as
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Antonio Gallardo wrote:
...
Based on lastest posts, I will like to see a fusion Lenya+Forrest. Is this
posible or they are divorced.
Synergy. What I want Forrest and Lenya to seek is syergy.
I can tell you, as a Forrest committer, that we *love* to do things to
make nice DTDs and relative
Robert Koberg wrote:
spipped description of forrest site.xml
...
Wasn't this all a conversation from a couple of years ago?
Yup :-)
It is good to see opinions change...
Yup, things change. As long as we remain open to change and accept
things that people need, things get better.
First,
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
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I'm starting to think (and I think this resonates with what Tony was
saying) that the physical structure of the docs should be flat,
wiki-style, having all docs files (real files or generated) in a
single directory, of very few directories like reference,
Hi,
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Robert Koberg wrote:
First, forrest's site.xml should change the element names to something
generic, like:
site
Robert Koberg wrote:
...
about forrest's site.xml:
The question is: why validate?
More than a few reasons:
- ensure unique identifiers with the xs:ID datatype
good point
- ensure valid id references with xs:IDREF for things like:
site id=cocoon.apache.org index_page= p1234
page id=p1234/
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:17:48PM +0200, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
On Saturday, Oct 11, 2003, at 14:25 Europe/Rome, Nicola Ken Barozzi
wrote:
Please don't forget Forrest.
we are not.
:) Let's remember that there's hard reuse and soft reuse. Hard reuse
means physically integrating
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