Re: [OT] Happy birthday Tony!

2003-11-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 26 Nov 2003, at 23:13, Tony Collen wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Tony turned 25 today: http://manero.org/weblog/archives/000147.html Hey, isn't geeks celebrating your birthady also a good present for a geek? ;-) Dunno, I've always been told to beware of geeks bearing gif

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 25 Nov 2003, at 17:09, Reinhard Poetz wrote: ok, is there a way for others to help you or in other words: do you need some help? No, I move faster if I do stuff myself. There is no much code to write, just a lot of glue and finding out the pieces of the puzzle and working with somebody else

[FYI] Longhorn presentation layer codenamed "Avalon"

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
http://longhorn.msdn.microsoft.com/lhsdk/core/overviews/road_map.aspx a "presentation layer" called Avalon that uses XML as the basis? prepare for some nasty confusion :-/ -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [OT] - About MS published schemas

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 23:02, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 19.11.2003 03:43, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: I found this interesting article about the recent MS published schemas. And I like to share it with the rest of the community: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34045.html What a frustrating poi

Re: A general Note

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 22:38, JD Daniels wrote: I just wanted to take moment and thank the cocoon community. Cocoon kicks butt. I make small to medium small business / personal web applications. Nothing fancy, basically alot of xsp + xsl templates (These alone match PHP I think) After the initial l

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 21:32, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 23.11.2003 20:21, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: At the same time, all the style should happen in the XSLT thus the calendar strings worries me. I think it can be easily addresses by "inspecting" with XPath if

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 21:30, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 22.11.2003 18:30, Ugo Cei wrote: I'm with you here. Let's face it, what people are and will be using Woody for is mainly HTML forms, and there's no way you can make a decent form-based application without *lots* of DHTML code. But the current c

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 20:55, Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so why not start to rate wiki pages so if anyone want to do something start with most wanted pages ? Good idea but I think it depends when Doco, our new documentation system will be available. AFAIK Stefano is working on i

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 20:49, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 19:09 Europe/Zurich, Bruno Dumon a écrit : Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 18:08, Marc Portier wrote: The only way to make this *really* REST-y is to pass the continuation (not the ID, the *ENTIRE* continuation) along with the response. This would allow complete replicability of the continuation. at the limit this of course could mean that one needs

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 17:06, Leszek Gawron wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button

Re: M$ publishes Word Document ML / Hello World Sample attached

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 23 Nov 2003, at 22:31, Steven Noels wrote: On Nov 21, 2003, at 9:12 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: But I would suggest to ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this before we include any example/code/tutorial/anything that is covered by that. I agree that the license seems harmless enough. But I also

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 23 Nov 2003, at 22:04, Bruno Dumon wrote: OTOH, renderkits not only abstract the rendering but also the decoding of request parameters, so that's a point where they are more flexibile then Woody, where it is all hardcoded in the widgets (and assumes HTML-like behaviour). Do you see value in tha

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button? bah. I tried to set one of the people commenting straight on how it works in Cocoon, but they seems to be convinced i

Re: Problem with CVS of Cocoon-Documentation & an Authoring Question

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I'm copying the mail list. Thanks for notifying us. We'll solve the issues you outline ASAP. On 21 Nov 2003, at 00:23, Thomas J. Sebestyen wrote: Dear Diana, Dear Stefano, Dear Greg, I have just only two "simple" questions. The first one is not really a question, it's related to the page/direct

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 22 Nov 2003, at 18:30, Ugo Cei wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't agree with you here: you cannot seriously convince people to use Woody if it doesn't provide the minimal "fancy features" that every other form framework provides. You won't convince anybody with flat inputs. We need tooltip

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 22 Nov 2003, at 14:48, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Samedi, 22 nov 2003, à 13:42 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : Over the last days I had an offlist discussion with Sylvain and I don't want to keep back a very nice summary of Sylvain comparing CocoonForms with JSF. I set up a Wiki pa

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 22 Nov 2003, at 13:42, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Over the last days I had an offlist discussion with Sylvain and I don't want to keep back a very nice summary of Sylvain comparing CocoonForms with JSF. I set up a Wiki page: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFormsJSF We would be very int

Re: Introducing IOC for Java classes created in flowscript

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 21 Nov 2003, at 12:22, Torsten Curdt wrote: Ok, I understand the point. I've been thinking long ago about a "CompilingClassLoader", i.e a classloader to which we don't give .class files, but .java files and that compiles them on the fly and recompiles them automatically when needed. BeanShel

Re: Introducing IOC for Java classes created in flowscript

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 21 Nov 2003, at 09:45, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: .. So I added a new method to "cocoon" that sets up an object just as if it were an Avalon component by honoring the various lifecycle interfaces. Some useful lifecycle interfaces to implement are

Re: M$ publishes Word Document ML / Hello World Sample attached

2003-11-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 17 Nov 2003, at 20:15, Steven Noels wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: We need "scan the license" very carefully before take decision. I read it briefly and it basically boils down to "don't mess with us, and we won't mess with you". They do expect you to do a "compatible application" though, so

Re: [Website] Project homepage

2003-11-19 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 18 Nov 2003, at 10:15, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dion Gillard wrote: James Strachan wrote: Lenya, which has a URI, http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain. Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if Lenya already has? As an outsider, this is very co

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] FOM sendStatus/setStatus

2003-11-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 14 Nov 2003, at 18:04, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: -Original Message- From: Unico Hommes Sent: maandag 10 november 2003 12:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sylvain Wallez wrote: Furthermore, I would like this feature to be defined at the environment level and not only in

Re: [d'oh!] java APIs are not powerful enough to handle the XML spec!!

2003-11-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 13 Nov 2003, at 21:08, J.Pietschmann wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: The day somebody asks you why java needs to be replaced, one answer will be 'it only supports 16-bits chars'. laughable as it might seem, it's true. yes, people, a Unicode char is not 16 bit (as I always t

Re: Bastardized URL protocol

2003-11-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 13 Nov 2003, at 14:49, Berin Loritsch wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Sigh. I'm not going to force you guys not to make the same mistake again. It seems I am the only one who doesn't like it, even though I strongly encourage at least stripping out *one* of the forward slashes

Re: Bastardized URL protocol

2003-11-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 13 Nov 2003, at 11:35, Berin Loritsch wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Just because we have one protocol that is messed up and we can't change it doesn't mean we should make the same mistakes. True. For the Context protocol, I highly recommend doin

Re: [vote] forbidding flowscripts with no sendpage redirects (was Re: Saving pipeline output to a temp file...)

2003-11-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 13 Nov 2003, at 00:20, Andrzej Jan Taramina wrote: Ugo suggested: function dumpData() { dumpUserData(); dumpOrderData(); dumpNewsItems(); cocoon.sendPage("view"); } The main problem I have with this approach is that without looking at the script cod

[d'oh!] java APIs are not powerful enough to handle the XML spec!!

2003-11-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
The day somebody asks you why java needs to be replaced, one answer will be 'it only supports 16-bits chars'. laughable as it might seem, it's true. yes, people, a Unicode char is not 16 bit (as I always though!) but 32!! And even the XML specification says so. Char ::=  #x9 | #xA | #xD | [#x2

Re: Bastardized URL protocol

2003-11-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 17:18, Berin Loritsch wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Variable scoping aside, do you have any suggestion on how to solve the protocol issue? -- Stefano, who reached a point where rants look like a very inefficient way of solving problems As I mentioned in another email

Re: [vote] forbidding flowscripts with no sendpage redirects (was Re: Saving pipeline output to a temp file...)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 20:20, Tim Olson wrote: sorry i'm so late in commenting on this but please NO NO NO! we are using javascript not as a flow engine but as a simple scripting controller. we have one main pipeline which does auth, i18n, etc, and which calls specific pipeline fragments for each pa

Re: [RT] Is flowscript polluting sitemap readability?

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 19:49, Joerg Heinicke wrote: Only a random thought: why there is no FlowScriptSelector calling the flow script and evaluating the String return type? This would remove the sitemap calls flow script calls sitemap and is more like a function call. You will have only one pipeli

Re: Bastardized URL protocol (Re: [RT] ComponentizedProcessor)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 13:23, Berin Loritsch wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Sylvain Wallez dijo: So since we _need_ to be able to specify URLs relative to the current sitemap, what do you suggest? A subprotocol like what we have for "cocoon:raw", another protocol like "current-sitemap:"? Just like Bru

Re: [RT] Is flowscript polluting sitemap readability?

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 18:14, Andrzej Jan Taramina wrote: Stefano: As a rule, we should restrict everything that we can't come up with a reason to make it possible, then keep listening for people that could come up with those reasons. Everything that is not explicitly allowed is disallowed? That su

Re: Migrating to Avalon. Thoughts?

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 15:31, Stephen McConnell wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 12 Nov 2003, at 12:50, Stephen McConnell wrote: Just a note to let you know that there are a number of threads currently running over on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning the establishment of a component repository

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 14:48, Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Stefano Mazzocchi Ah, Carsten, do we have instructions on how to do the release? I can't stop feeling uncomfortable in having you a bottleneck of this process. [not a critic on your great work, but just a thought] http://wiki.cocoonde

Re: [RT] ComponentizedProcessor (was RE: Migrating TreeProcessor to Fortress)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
As a general feeling, I like what I see. A few comments inside. On 12 Nov 2003, at 14:34, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: 1/ Virtual components Virtual components are sitemap snippets that can be used in place of "regular" components. I many languages, these are called "macros". W

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23299] - [PATCH] UTFDataFormatException: String cannot be longer than 32k.

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 13:54, Torsten Curdt wrote: Let's not discuss this to death. I'll fix it :) Minor suggestion. >32k events do not happen everyday, but <32k events do, a lot. So, instead of adding size to the <32k events, it's better to add some size to >32k events. > What I mean is: 1) Leave l

Re: Migrating to Avalon. Thoughts?

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 12:50, Stephen McConnell wrote: Just a note to let you know that there are a number of threads currently running over on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning the establishment of a component repository project. After reading your email I think that many of the subjects you have add

Re: [OT Re: whitespace cleanup and efficiency drive

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 12 Nov 2003, at 12:05, Torsten Curdt wrote: IDEA does it pretty good: Removes trailing spaces when saving a file, replaces existing tabs with spaces on save, when using the key TAB it adds spaces to the file. But unfortunately IDEA is not for free. Ah, others keep mentioning IDEA too. Hm...

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 23:05, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 11.11.2003 22:31, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The only question is: do we stick to the release date of thursday? *I* can do the release on thursday or on friday. Due to the ApacheCon and some holidays :) I won't be able to do it in the following thre

[RT] Is flowscript polluting sitemap readability?

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 15:48, Geoff Howard wrote: I'm the same. In fact, I think that flow in some cases needlessly complicates the composition of a pipeline. Now I have to have two pipelines where I used to need one. wait wait wait. hold it. There are different issues on the table here: 1) app

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze

2003-11-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 19:49, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 11.11.2003 12:38, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten, what is the status of the component proxy? If we have such a big memory leak, I think we should get it solved before doing the release. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-cvs&a

Random comments and bugfixes

2003-11-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[copying [EMAIL PROTECTED] because many people are in search for a serious versioned content repository these days] Hello everyone, I find myself in the need for a serious WebDAV/DeltaV/DASL content repository and after having searched land and sea and having tried all possible combinations ou

Re: GT 2003 talks: audio only example, please test

2003-11-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 12:31, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz dijo: Le Mardi, 11 nov 2003, à 12:09 Europe/Zurich, Torsten Curdt a écrit : ...For low quality audio ogg is supposed to be much better. Does it play "everywhere" without requiring special software? Otherwise I think the accessib

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze

2003-11-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 08:58, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 11 nov 2003, à 00:15 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit : ...#24463 is a patch for the Petstore sample which would be excellent to have in the 2.1.3 release. It does fix a lot of bugs and incomplete facilities. It also begins to use

Re: [vote] forbidding flowscripts with no sendpage redirects (was Re:Saving pipeline output to a temp file...)

2003-11-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 11 Nov 2003, at 05:47, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Sylvain Wallez dijo: Let's reformulate this into a proper vote. Do you want to enforce the fact that flowscript calls (either "function" or "continuation") *must* redirect using sendPage, sendPageAndWait or redirectTo and that, should it not be t

Re: whitespace cleanup and efficiency drive

2003-11-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 10 Nov 2003, at 14:06, David Crossley wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: If we agree on style, I can run IDEA on whole source tree Yes, if we can "just" define the style then any of our tools should be able to apply it. Perhaps we could gradually develop our "style". For example start with only "ind

Re: Migrating TreeProcessor to Fortress (was: Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 ... )

2003-11-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 9 Nov 2003, at 21:57, Unico Hommes wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ryan Hoegg wrote: peter royal wrote: Anyone: Any thoughts about using Jelly as the builder for the sitemap? Its usage can be completely hidden, but as a tag processor, it might work very well. We could use it to construct a

Re: Upload widget for Woody: how to handle form redisplay?

2003-11-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 9 Nov 2003, at 15:33, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 9 Nov 2003, at 00:06, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I'm attacking the problem of uploads in Woody. Upayavira started to work on this some time ago but hadn't the time to finish, so I asked him to send m

Re: Upload widget for Woody: how to handle form redisplay?

2003-11-09 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 9 Nov 2003, at 00:06, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I'm attacking the problem of uploads in Woody. Upayavira started to work on this some time ago but hadn't the time to finish, so I asked him to send me the baby for it to continue growing. But upload is a difficult problem when the nice fo

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/text-wrap welcome.html

2003-11-09 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 8 Nov 2003, at 23:21, David Crossley wrote: joerg wrote: Modified:src/webapp/samples/text-wrap welcome.html Log: fixed typo we have a HTML file in our CVS ;-) LOL. I am ashamed to say that i sometimes find it easier to knock up a simple html cover page to drive a sample, especially

Re: sitemap design

2003-11-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 8 Nov 2003, at 12:02, Guido Casper wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Careful. I'm against the use of as well. The proper way should be ... having the logic processing not following the element nesting, is, IMO, very confusing and very bad practice. In the ori

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 17370] - Wrong HTTP Content Length for Reader when "show-time"

2003-11-07 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Nov 2003, at 18:30, Tomasz Nowak wrote: Vadim Gritsenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But it might not worth the trouble adding all this complexity just to implement some debug feature Well, it obviously is a debug feature. But you probably might want to look at it as a small, discreet marketing

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-07 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Nov 2003, at 17:22, Guido Casper wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 7 Nov 2003, at 13:52, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 14:39 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: I agree with comments in this other thread that let's not introduce n

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-07 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Nov 2003, at 13:52, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 14:39 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: I agree with comments in this other thread that let's not introduce nested components in . Instead, if needed, let's introduce . Sometime l

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-06 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 14:39 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: I agree with comments in this other thread that let's not introduce nested components in . Instead, if needed, let's introduce . Sometime later. -1 I want to arrive to a point in the future where the ugly element and silly

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-06 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 09:37 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: I am +1 on the idea but would favor naming the method sendStatus instead, and also have a way to set the status on the environment from the flow without sending an empty response: - cocoon.sendStatus(status) - cocoon.sendStatus(st

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline ProcessingPipeline.java AbstractProcessingPipeline.java

2003-11-06 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Nov 6, 2003, at 08:22 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Is this a step back towards ComponentManager, or a step forward toward Fortress? I know only one direction: forward. that sounded s "Blitzkrieg! :-) -- Stefano.

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 13:41 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 12:19 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: setStatus' friends the sendError brothers are also be eligible for FOM membership. But this change has a dependency o

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 14:58 Europe/Rome, Berin Loritsch wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I'm all for continuing the migration. Even better: the more hands do the porting, the more people will know the internals, the better shape the tree ends up being. I think we should make a se

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 14:28 Europe/Rome, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: -Original Message- From: Gianugo Rabellino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 5 november 2003 14:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: setStatus' friends the send

Re: [Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 14:20 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: From: Gianugo Rabellino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry to jump in late, I'm probably lagging behind a few posts, but was the possibility of having *pipelines* send empty payload considered instead? This way flow will always hav

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 12:19 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: login () { while (!loggedin) { sendPageAndWait("login"); loggedin = ... } return ('username': username, 'profile': profile); } You mean something like this? No objections so far. :) What flowscript method

[Vote] empty HTTP responses [was Re: Cannot easily set http status]

2003-11-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 12:19 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: setStatus' friends the sendError brothers are also be eligible for FOM membership. But this change has a dependency on the discussion about bodyless responses since if you'd do a sendError from a flow script and then send a page

Re: Cannot easily set http status

2003-11-04 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Nov 4, 2003, at 14:21 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: Working on davmap I noticed that the way I was setting the status code in the Serializer wasn't working. This is what I do: But it seems that the status-code attribute is not being resolved. I propose we change this. -1, do

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-04 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 22:59 Europe/Rome, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Berin Loritsch dijo: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual up

Re: [bug?] exception thrown in sendPage() skips the proper error handler

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 19:27 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 12:09 Europe/Rome, Guido Casper wrote: See also: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10631375302&r=1&w=2 Great, so it's a bug. What's the status of

Re: Groovy language for XSP

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 12:11 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. [at least, from a community perspective, we wouldn't be basing our entire architecture on branched

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Rome, Stephan Michels wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 15:57 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stephan Michels wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 23:29

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 09:52 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: CallFunctionNode.java ln 166/184: // FIXME (SW) : is a flow allowed not to redirect ? ;-D Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is about knowing if a flowscript is al

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 01:00 Europe/Rome, Ugo Cei wrote: [I'm crossposting to dev, since this might stimulate some comments from the Flowscript gurus over there.] Oleg Dulin wrote: Dear Fellow Cocoon Users: I just read the forwarded message on xml-dev mailing list and realized that Groovy m

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 20:32 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 3) move the whole thing into core -1, the core should only contain necessary components. +1, I wouldn't mind seeing it in core. It's like instrumentation manager which is also in core.

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 15:57 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stephan Michels wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 23:29 Europe/Rome, Steve K wrote: And finally, on a somewhat unrelated subject, one thing that I've always wanted Cocoon

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 14:24 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 16:16 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: As for the empty response body. It would be a matter of having a serializer supressing it. Another option is to

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 01:28 Europe/Rome, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Yes, it did. BTW, do you know if Cadaver can talk simple DeltaV with subversion? Unfortunately, I'm afraid not. I'll try (if I can manage to build subversion on merlino) and report back

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 01:26 Europe/Rome, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: Should we strive for strict compatibility in the short term? IMO, yes. We are now building a foundation for Cocoon to be a viable DAV server, and this should include finding all

Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 23:29 Europe/Rome, Steve K wrote: And finally, on a somewhat unrelated subject, one thing that I've always wanted Cocoon to do may be possible if support for collecting the XML at each pipeline step is added. To aid in debugging, I think it would be very helpful to

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 16:16 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: As for the empty response body. It would be a matter of having a serializer supressing it. Another option is to set the response headers in the flow and refrain from sending any page at all. Hmm, but this seem

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 14:49 Europe/Rome, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: Should we strive for strict compatibility in the short term? IMO, yes. We are now building a foundation for Cocoon to be a viable DAV server, and this should include finding all the possible shortcoming

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 12:58 Europe/Rome, Guido Casper wrote: remembering Greg Stein saying: "You don't want to implement the complete DeltaV unless you have a suicide tendency." (don't nail me down on the exact wording :-) Just for the record, the guy who wrote the DeltaV spec is the same

Re: [bug?] exception thrown in sendPage() skips the proper error handler

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 12:09 Europe/Rome, Guido Casper wrote: See also: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10631375302&r=1&w=2 Great, so it's a bug. What's the status of this? has it been filed on bugzilla yet? Sylvain, any suggestions on how to fix it as Vadim proposed? -- Stefano.

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Rome, Guido Casper wrote: 1) is DAV: DAV:1 correct? I would expect "DAV: 1" to be the correct header Checking the spec at http://ftp.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/webdav/protocol/rfc2518.html#HEADER_DAV it seems that "DAV: 1" is correct. ah, ok, but being compliant

Re: [BUG] Cocoon doesn't handle trailing slashes correctly

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 08:29 Europe/Rome, Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 19:11 Europe/Rome, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-31 18:11 --- It's the second hint within two weeks

Re: 1060 NetKernel: virtual Internet operating system, XML runtime

2003-11-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 07:53 Europe/Rome, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 31 October 2003 20:09, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 17:05 Europe/Rome, Rogier Peters wrote: http://www.1060.org/ there is one say in english that I really like: "don't bite more th

[bug?] exception thrown in sendPage() skips the proper error handler

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I'm still having fun with webdavapps and found something that looks suspiciously close to a bug in the way the flow and sitemap work together in case of an exception. In the davmap, I added to handle all errors in the fastest and simplest possible way but if the error is trig

Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
In my doco wandering, I tried to mount the cocoon DAV repository (found in the 'davmap' directory of the webdav block) under macosx as a disk, but fails. I tried with mod_dav on httpd 2.0.47 and it works. Further inspection (with the good old tcpflow) indicates that the cocoon OPTION handsha

[BUG] Cocoon doesn't handle trailing slashes correctly

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 19:11 Europe/Rome, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-31 18:11 --- It's the second hint within two weeks that Cocoon seems not to handle trailing slashes correctly: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10663360274

Re: block.properties not ordered

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 14:11 Europe/Rome, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: After the last update of block.properties, now it is hard to find a kind of order inside the file. Before we had an alphabetical order, now it is not clear to be how it is ordered. Can we change it again? I think peopl

Re: [RT] SourceRepository and davmap

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 16:28 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: Not all functionality of the Linotype SourceRepository is implemented. For instance I have not gotten to the versioning part yet. ok (And haven't really thought out how this would best be done. (One idea is, continuing with the

Re: Image-Based Authentication

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 13:28 Europe/Rome, Andrew Savory wrote: Hi, On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 07:33 Europe/London, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Why don't you add it to the Cocoon CVS? a) general samples block (Petstore, image based auth, ...) b) autentication framework block c) SVG block I wo

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor AbstractProcessingNodeBuilder.java

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 12:31 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sylvain 2003/10/31 03:12:56 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon Constants.java src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor

Re: 1060 NetKernel: virtual Internet operating system, XML runtime

2003-10-31 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 17:05 Europe/Rome, Rogier Peters wrote: Take a look at http://www.1060.org/ I really don't know what to make of this - lots of hot air - and a lot of similarities to Cocoon ( i vaguely remember a discussion about Cocoon as an operating system, which was quickly disca

Re: [RT] SourceRepository and davmap

2003-10-30 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Talking about perfect timing ;-) On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 15:46 Europe/Rome, Unico Hommes wrote: I'm in the process of refactoring and furthering the davmap samples in the WebDAV block. Methods that I've added are DELETE and MKCOL, and will be adding a PROPPATCH in the following few days an

[FYI] cool packages for mach-o

2003-10-30 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[since the number of switchers around here is increasing, I think this is less and less off-topic ;-)] Point your browser to http://www.serverlogistics.com/software.php where you find very nicely packages for - apache 2.0.x - mysql 4.0.x (including JDBC driver!!) - tomcat 4.1.x (including

[heads up] Keeping dependencies in sych

2003-10-30 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I tried to compile the "repository" block standalone but it didn't compile because it requires both the "database" block and the "eventcache" block. I don't have any problems with these dependencies (they make perfect sense) but I would like people to do a little more effort in keeping the blo

Re: HTML editor widget (was Re: [proposal] Doco)

2003-10-30 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Wednesday, Oct 29, 2003, at 11:40 Europe/Rome, Bruno Dumon wrote: I've only just started with some little javascript experiments, so it's not like any code has been written yet. ok, but it's great to see you doing this Here are some first random thoughts: * different users of the widget (like

Re: [proposal] Doco

2003-10-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Moving to Cocoon... A little context: Steven suggested to take a look at http://kokochi.com:8080/sapience/test.jsp and implement the above in Doco to avoid automatic crawlers to spam us thru the editing interface. On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 16:26 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Stefano

Re: [proposal] Doco

2003-10-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 13:10 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Doco came to my mind when finding http://kokochi.com:8080/sapience/test.jsp in Hippo's blog. Can I be anal for a sec? LOL. Sure, as long as you wipe properly afterwards, no problem here. :-) cool

Re: [proposal] Doco

2003-10-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 10:11 Europe/Rome, Steven Noels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 2) minimal, efficient and secure workflow (should satisfy board@ security concerns) FWIW: Doco came to my mind when finding http://kokochi.com:8080/sapience/test.jsp in Hippo's blog. Can I be

Re: [proposal] Doco

2003-10-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 09:32 Europe/Rome, Danny Angus wrote: Stefan wrote: So, adding SSL relay wouldn't hurt, but wouldn't help much either since we can't force moderators to have a mail server that accepts that kind of relay (don't even know if mine does!) I think what should happen to e

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