RE: [VOTE] Remove excalibur instrumentation support from 2.2

2004-10-24 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Giacomo Pati [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 October 2004 15:45 > To: Cocoon-Dev > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Remove excalibur instrumentation support from 2.2 > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > The ECM++ is now integrated in 2.2 and it see

RE: [RT] Some notes about the "Real Blocks" issue

2004-10-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Because they have been around forever *AND* they don't change their > contracts overnight. So who is changing contracts Stefano?

RE: [GUMP@brutus]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-10-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Gump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -ERROR- Bad Dependency. Project: excalibur-compatibility unknown to > *this* workspace You can fix this error by replacing the following line: with this: > -ERROR- Bad Dependency. Project: excalibur-i18n unknown to

RE: [GUMP@brutus]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-10-02 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Gump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 October 2004 13:40 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed > > To whom it may engage... > > This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For > more information plea

RE: [GUMP@brutus]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 October 2004 22:34 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed > > Gump wrote: > > >To whom it may engage... > > > >This is an automated request, but not an unsolicite

RE: cocoon.sh: request

2004-09-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sylvain (who finds very funny to talk to the guy sitting on the other > side of his office wall through the Internet) You don't have SMS?

RE: [GUMP@brutus]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-08-22 Thread Stephen McConnell
I'm in the process of updating a bunch of Avalon related gump descriptors to reference current content in svn (as opposed to cvs content). Part of the transition also involves linking gump build procedures with magic based builds and getting this all in sync means a couple of changes on dependent

Re: [RT] Logging in Cocoon

2004-05-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: BTW I am not following Avalon developement very closely anymore, does anyone know what the status of LogKit is in Avalon itself (did they deprecate it?). Version 2.0.0 of LogKit has recently been released. What's new in 2

Re: [RT] Logging in Cocoon

2004-05-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
Unico Hommes wrote: BTW I am not following Avalon developement very closely anymore, does anyone know what the status of LogKit is in Avalon itself (did they deprecate it?). Version 2.0.0 of LogKit has recently been released. It is not deprecated. Cheers, Stephen.

Re: [RT] Logging in Cocoon

2004-05-27 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: WDYT? The reason why logkit was developped was because log4j made extensive use of static methods and that doesn't work very well with servlet environments. Ceki, anything to report on that front? NOTE: Cocoon is getting fed up with avalon and its community instabiliti

Re: [GUMP@lsd]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-03-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
On 27.03.2004 23:03, Gump wrote: To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For help understanding the request please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project cocoon has an issue affecting its community integration

Re: ECM facility

2004-03-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
://avalon.apache.org/finder/ And javadocs here: http://avalon.apache.org/finder/api/index.html Cheers, Stephen. Carsten -Original Message- From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:20 AM To: Avalon Developers List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ECM facility

ECM facility

2004-03-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
I've just committed some content into the merlin/facility directory dealing with a pull-based service finder implementation. This commit is dealing with two things: (a) an example of the addition of a semantic extension to merlin without modification or extension to the container

Re: Migrating to Avalon. Thoughts?

2003-11-12 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 12 Nov 2003, at 15:31, Stephen McConnell wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 12 Nov 2003, at 12:50, Stephen McConnell wrote: Just a note to let you know that there are a number of threads currently running over on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning the

Re: Migrating to Avalon. Thoughts?

2003-11-12 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 12 Nov 2003, at 12:50, Stephen McConnell wrote: Just a note to let you know that there are a number of threads currently running over on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning the establishment of a component repository project. After reading your email I think that many

Re: Migrating to Avalon. Thoughts?

2003-11-12 Thread Stephen McConnell
Just a note to let you know that there are a number of threads currently running over on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] concerning the establishment of a component repository project. After reading your email I think that many of the subjects you have addressed below are relevant to the things the Avalon c

Re: [OT] Using components outside of Cocoon

2003-11-05 Thread Stephen McConnell
Steve K wrote: Hey folks -- I have developed a few Avalon Components (they all extend AbstractLogEnabled) that I am currently using inside of Cocoon, but I would like to use them in another, much simpler application. I know the ExcalibirTestCase does a pretty good job at providing a simple

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 03.11.2003 17:18, Berin Loritsch wrote: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or

Re: Questions about Meta Info

2003-10-27 Thread Stephen McConnell
Berin Loritsch wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ghoward 2003/10/25 14:59:50 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/matching Matcher.java CookieMatcher.java Log: start fortressizing Matchers. lots of open questions already, so I'll pause here

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: When you have a hierarchy of component managers (I still call them component managers :) ), and you lookup a selector on the child CM and then try to lookup a component using a hint that is not defined in this selector but in a selector with

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Leo Sutic wrote: From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So in this sax streaming we have a class called EnvironmentChanger that takes care that the current collection used is the correct one. So if the sub request sends an event to the main request, a pointer is set pointing to

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Yes, I think this is basically our extension together with the ParentAware support. * ParentAware A selector (or any other component) can declare that it is ParentAware,

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Initial comments about CocoonComponentManager--to make sure I don't forget anything it is currently doing: The CocoonComponentManager handles several aspects including: * Request scoped components * Source Resolver specifics for a processor/reque

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
Berin Loritsch wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Berin: A couple, of notes in-line... Berin Loritsch wrote: Request Scoped Components: Create a new lifestyle handler for Fortress. Is this equivalent to the creation of a new component instance for each invocation against the service

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/lib jars.xml

2003-10-14 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: But a browse around ibiblio reveals: http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/jms/ http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/jndi/ exist but don't have any jars. And looks like Stephen knows why - I had assumed ASF was being conservative (wisely, I assume) and that ibiblio wou

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/lib jars.xml

2003-10-14 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Tuesday, Oct 14, 2003, at 18:40 Europe/Rome, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haul2003/10/14 09:40:09 Modified:.blocks.properties gump.xml lib jars.xml Added: src/blocks/jms/samples sitemap.xmap src/blocks/jms

Re: Fortress Migration Strategy

2003-10-14 Thread Stephen McConnell
Berin: A couple, of notes in-line... Berin Loritsch wrote: Request Scoped Components: Create a new lifestyle handler for Fortress. Is this equivalent to the creation of a new component instance for each invocation against the service manager? Steve. -- Stephen J. McConnell mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: [RT] Separation of Blocks and Avalon

2003-10-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 17:15 Europe/Rome, Ryan Hoegg wrote: Rather than have cocoon blocks extend avalon blocks, I think cocoon blocks could use avalon blocks. Ok, I see your point. Instead of having a /COB-INF and a /BLOCK-inf, perhaps we include avalon bloc

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-10-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Another fol

Re: [PATCH][GUMP] adjust qdox version

2003-10-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefan Bodewig wrote: The qdox project descriptor points to a jar that no longer exists. Several parts of Avalon fail to build because of the wrong file name and as a side effect, Cocoon doesn't get built by Gump as its prereqs coming from Avalon are missing. Can you be a bit more specific. A

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-10-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Another followup question related to the following note on the wiki:

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-10-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Just a couple of observations - The usage of /BLOCK-INF may conflict w

Re: unit testing generator

2003-10-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefan Kostopoulos wrote: Hi everybody! I try to unit test a generator, but cannot find the source/class for: org.apache.avalon.excalibur.testcase.ExcaliburTestCase In which jar file should this package be located? ExcaliburTestCase is a part of the depricated Excalibur Component package. Bi

Re: block perspectives

2003-10-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
remain open and receptive to ideas and experience that other communities have to offer. Stephen. Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 16:59 Europe/Rome, Stephen McConnell wrote: Please - go back and take another look. Stephen, while I thank you for your interest in cre

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-10-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Upayavira wrote: So you won't be able to include and share arbitrary components between blocks? i.e. components that have arbitrary interfaces? They'll all have to follow interfaces th

Re: block perspectives

2003-10-02 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 15:04 Europe/Rome, Stephen McConnell wrote: 1) lack of polymorphic dependencies Dependencies are adaptive to the implementation strategy. A block author does not need to declare any dependencies as these are implicity established based

Re: block perspectives

2003-10-02 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Wednesday, Oct 1, 2003, at 16:22 Europe/Rome, Stephen McConnell wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, a few questions: 1) where is the DTD of your block.xml? There is no DTD due to the fact that we wanted to include user configuration directly in component

Re: followup

2003-10-02 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: If its collaboration then some concrete things need to be considered on the Avalon side and communication channels need to be established. If not - there are migration issues related to ECM/Fortress that can take a back seat in favour of other priorities. ? you a

Re: followup (offlist)

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Well that was intended as an offlist message. Now that its on-list - maybe its a good idea to get some broader feedback? Stephen. Stephen McConnell wrote: Geoff: Just wanted to followup with you on the subject of Merlin/Cocoon/Avalon/Blocks/etc. A few weeks ago there were several [EMAIL

followup (offlist)

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff: Just wanted to followup with you on the subject of Merlin/Cocoon/Avalon/Blocks/etc. A few weeks ago there were several [EMAIL PROTECTED] people pushing for greater collaboration with Cocoon on the Merlin/Cocoon block question. That was the stimulus for taking a more proactive role in pu

Re: block perspectives

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stephen McConnell wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 3) how open are you/avalon to changes to this DTD? Totally open. However, a better question is how reasonable is it to extend the deployment and composition object model instances. This implies implementation of readers and writers that

Re: block perspectives

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, a few questions: 1) where is the DTD of your block.xml? There is no DTD due to the fact that we wanted to include user configuration directly in component directives. Instead we aim to apply schema validation via tools - but this is work in progress. In the

over-componentization scenario

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Wednesday, Oct 1, 2003, at 09:49 Europe/Rome, Michael Lipp wrote: Hi, having studied the avalon concepts some time ago, I just came upon a point where I wanted to take advantage of them and failed. Let me tell you why. I have a problem with filenames of Java file

Re: Disappointed about avalon usage

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Michael: A couple of comments - the issue of the Component interface was addressed 12-18 months ago with the introduction of the service sub-package in the framework. The Component interface along with the entire component sub-package is now depricated. The replacement org.apache.avalon.fram

block perspectives

2003-10-01 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Just a coup

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-09-30 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Just a couple of observations - The usage of /BLOCK-INF may conflict w

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-09-30 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: as a matter of fact, we don't. It's plain vanilla ant 1.5.4 and it's there only because not everybody has ant installed. Same thing for jetty, it's called "convenience" and makes it easier for users and developers to get started. Is there a specific reason why ther

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-09-30 Thread Stephen McConnell
Geoff Howard wrote: If you havn't read up on the blocks docs on the wiki lately (the last two weeks) you really should. Stefano has put a good series of pages up detailing the plan and the current implementation ideas. Just a couple of observations - The usage of /BLOCK-INF may conflict w

Re: Ant/Maven/Centipede discussion

2003-09-30 Thread Stephen McConnell
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Upayavira wrote: So you won't be able to include and share arbitrary components between blocks? i.e. components that have arbitrary interfaces? They'll all have to follow interfaces that already exist within Cocoon? Or am I missing something? N

[Fwd: Maven 1.0-RC1 released]

2003-09-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
Just for reference. http://maven.apache.org/builds/release/1.0-rc1/ Steve. Original Message Subject:Maven 1.0-RC1 released Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:43:39 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Maven Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vote] Build infrastructure

2003-09-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
Having been though the process of setting up Maven for several projects - and during the process experienced the evolution form Maven 0.7 to the current 0.10, I can confirm that Maven in its current form is usable and functional. There are bugs in the Maven 10 release, many of which have been r