Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: I am not so sure about that.  I guess it depends on what kind of simple scripts you are willing to use to automate things and how much you care about being certain that that things are working and you know exactly what

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/2/11 11:09 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: I am not so sure about that. I guess it depends on what kind of simple scripts you are willing to use to automate things and how much you care about being certain that that

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing, other than that is exactly what I do and I know exactly what is going on.  I don't see any real saving, that's all and I see no need to bring in proprietary gui-based software into the mix or to wget stuff from

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons - Commons CLI - Default Maven 2 Build Definition (Java 1.5)

2011-08-03 Thread Continuum@vmbuild
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=10810projectId=67 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Failed Started at: Wed 3 Aug 2011 06:38:40 + Finished at: Wed 3 Aug 2011 06:38:52 + Total time: 12s Build Trigger: Forced Build

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/2/11 11:30 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing, other than that is exactly what I do and I know exactly what is going on. I don't see any real saving, that's all and I see no need to bring in proprietary gui-based

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 03/08/2011 08:40, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/2/11 11:30 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Phil Steitzphil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing, other than that is exactly what I do and I know exactly what is going on. I don't see any real saving, that's all and I see

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
I am also worried about a closed tool like Nexus being used to publish Apache stuff. Luc This is curious, indeed. I always wondered why we use Nexus instead of eating our own dog food Apache Archiva[1], but worried to receive a reply why didn't you RTFM on http://xyz...; :P Have a nice

Re: [math] Improving tests and performance of RandomGenerator implementations

2011-08-03 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 01/08/2011 22:40, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Hi Phil, Le 01/08/2011 20:39, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/1/11 1:31 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi Phil, - Mail original - In my own applications, I noticed what appears to be poor performance in the nextInt(int) method of the

Re: [math] Improving tests and performance of RandomGenerator implementations

2011-08-03 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 03/08/2011 09:38, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Le 01/08/2011 22:40, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Hi Phil, Le 01/08/2011 20:39, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/1/11 1:31 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi Phil, - Mail original - In my own applications, I noticed what appears to be poor

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Luc Maisonobe luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: I am also worried about a closed tool like Nexus being used to publish Apache stuff. That discussion was made years ago, when Nexus was introduced. And, for the record, I strongly opposed Nexus at that time in favour of

Re: [GUMP@vmgump]: Project jakarta-turbine-jcs (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-08-03 Thread Thomas Vandahl
On 01.08.11 09:08, Stefan Bodewig wrote: I've added a dependency on velocity-tools-view to the Gump descriptor which may or may not fix the problem (velocity-tools-view currently doesn't build itself in Gump and unless I managed to fix that as well, JCS will simply not be built at all).

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Thomas
On 03/08/2011 06:36, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: What benefits do we get by using Nexus A real lot of work saved. (Beleave me. I've been RM for the same projects with and without Nexus and it's really a difference.) I fail to

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Stephen Colebourne
My thought is that there might be some java.util.logging helpers that could be written, and perhaps they might go in [lang] if there are 5 or fewer classes. I assume that slf4j and log4j have their own j.u.logging connections, so that end is dealt with. The time of [logging] has probably passed.

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-08-03 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-proxy-test has an issue affecting its community integration. This

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread David Karlsen
Hasn't the time for both CL and log4j passed by? The trend nowadays seems to be slf4j/logback. Den 3. aug. 2011 15:03 skrev Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com følgende: Or maybe Log4j 2 could replace [logging]. Gary On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:33 AM, Stephen Colebourne scolebou...@joda.org

[collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, I'm (re)starting having a good slot of spare time, I volunteered to help Matt on finalizing the [collections] release, but after had a look at the open issues I think we should agree on what including and what not. Does anyone already have a good overview/idea of collections roadmap?

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:07 AM, David Karlsen wrote: Hasn't the time for both CL and log4j passed by? The trend nowadays seems to be slf4j/logback. If you read further back in this thread you will see where I highlighted the problems in Logback as well as difficulties with SLF4J. Plus, every

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: I am also worried about a closed tool like Nexus being used to publish Apache stuff. Nexus is not completely closed. There is a community version that contains 90% of the functionality. That said, I really don't want to go look at the

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Benedict
I prefer Apache driven projects when possible. If LOG4J2 takes off, feature requests would be implemented quicker, I hope. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:07 AM, David Karlsen wrote: Hasn't the time for both CL and log4j

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
The most important theme IMO is generics. That's what has come up at work recently in fact. Everything else except showstopper bugs can wait IMO. Gary On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org wrote: Hi all guys, I'm (re)starting having a good slot of spare time,

Re: [LANG] Proposing 3.0.1

2011-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com wrote: Hi Hen, Henri Yandell wrote: I'd like to release 3.0.1 of Lang. Do we have any policies regarding Serializable types? I'd like to make StrMatcher, StrLookup and StrSubstitutor serializable. One step further

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Benedict
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: I like Log4J just fine thank you very much :) I'm looking forward to 2.0. Gary I concur with Gary. All my apps use LOG4J, not JCL or SLF4J. My dependencies do, however, but LOG4J works great minus a few enhancements

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Benedict
Or do a pure generics release as 3.5 to satisfy that need... which allows 4.0 to have generics plus the benefit of major refactoring if necessary (could also be called 4.0 and 5.0). On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Gary

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Antonio Petrelli
First of all, sorry to jump in at this point of the discussion. 2011/7/28 Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org Hi all guys, I remember I raw a thread - not sure if I did it here at commons or somewhere else here at apache - where specified we prefer adding [logging] as components

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Paul, BTW, in terms of swelling community development, if LOG4J+JCL were to merge and just become JCL2, it could have the visibility of all Commons committers. Isn't it much more of a common component than a separate project? I think the logging project is dysfunctional anyway -- make it a

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Thanks all for the feedbacks!!! I think that having generics (already done for what I can see) plus COLLECTIONS-310/351/372/377 + checking all issues where requesting generics would be reasonable to publish the 4.0 release. I don't know if someone already has a complete list of COLLECTIONS-310

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I think that a key mistake was trying to do both generics and refactoring. I'd suggest that quite a few users would simply like a generified [collections] 3.5 that is fully backwards compatible (as the JDK was) and with no refactoring. Now, some of the API cannot be generified correctly, so for

Re: [math] Improving tests and performance of RandomGenerator implementations

2011-08-03 Thread sebb
On 3 August 2011 09:06, Luc Maisonobe luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Le 03/08/2011 09:38, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Le 01/08/2011 22:40, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Hi Phil, Le 01/08/2011 20:39, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/1/11 1:31 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi Phil, - Mail original

Re: [math] Improving tests and performance of RandomGenerator implementations

2011-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/3/11 9:02 AM, sebb wrote: On 3 August 2011 09:06, Luc Maisonobe luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Le 03/08/2011 09:38, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Le 01/08/2011 22:40, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Hi Phil, Le 01/08/2011 20:39, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/1/11 1:31 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi

Re: [math] Improving tests and performance of RandomGenerator implementations

2011-08-03 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 03/08/2011 18:15, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 8/3/11 9:02 AM, sebb wrote: On 3 August 2011 09:06, Luc Maisonobeluc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Le 03/08/2011 09:38, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Le 01/08/2011 22:40, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : Hi Phil, Le 01/08/2011 20:39, Phil Steitz a écrit : On

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Antonio Petrelli wrote: However in my experience SLF4J has a big drawback: when used in a shared classloader (JBoss Portal anyone?) it is needed to have the same stinky old version of SLF4J in all applications during compile time, and the library should be excluded from the package. Hello

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Hi Ceki 2011/8/3 Ceki Gülcü c...@qos.ch Antonio Petrelli wrote: On the other hand, the version of slf4j binding that you select at runtime needs to match the slf4j-api. For example, if you have slf4j-api-1.6.1.jar on your classpath and you wish to use log4j, then you need

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/8/3 Antonio Petrelli antonio.petre...@gmail.com However in my experience SLF4J has a big drawback: when used in a shared classloader (JBoss Portal anyone?) it is needed to have the same stinky old version of SLF4J in all applications during compile time, and the library should be

Re: [compress] XZ support and inconsistencies in the existing compressors

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Lasse! I'd personally like if you could fill an Issue on Jira and submit your XZ implementation as a patch that naturally fits in the org.apache.commons.compress package and you continue contributing on maintaining it - maybe depending on an external package would be more difficult since

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/2/11 5:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote: Are we still going to deploy Maven

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/3/11 1:37 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/2/11 5:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org

Re: Nexus vs rsync-repository releases

2011-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/3/11 2:14 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: On 8/3/11 1:37 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/2/11 5:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:23

Re: [JCS] Long standing update: Switched to JDK 5 and Maven 2

2011-08-03 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Thomas Vandahl t...@apache.org wrote: Hi folks, I finished the updates to JDK 5 generics and concurrent and updated the maven-2 build. Still some tests fail, others should never have

Re: [logging] logging vs slf4j

2011-08-03 Thread Ralph Goers
The flaw would be in JBoss Portal, not the portlet spec. The spec doesn't have anything to do with logging. Ralph On Aug 3, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2011/8/3 Antonio Petrelli antonio.petre...@gmail.com However in my experience SLF4J has a big drawback: when used in a

[math] Implementation of Conjugate Gradient (MATH-581)

2011-08-03 Thread Sebastien Brisard
Hi, please review a proposal for the definition of general iterative linear solvers, as well as the implementation of the conjugate gradient method. This is file MATH-581-06.zip attached to the JIRA MATH-581 ticket. Thanks for your comments! Actually, I *do* have a comment. For the time being,