Re: [jelly] Working on some old issues

2015-05-02 Thread Paul Libbrecht
On 1/05/15 10:22, Bruno P. Kinoshita wrote: Since I joined Commons I've had a special interest in [jelly] due to its importance in the Jenkins project. Jenkins uses a patched version of [jelly]. Kohsuke, creator of Jenkins, is/was a Commons committer too, and submitted some issues. I

Re: Analysis of commons-jelly-1.0 commons-launcher-1.1 dependencies on JDK-Internal APIs

2014-10-17 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Rory, I see no attachments here. Can you post it to some web-place please? paul On 17 oct. 2014, at 10:42, Rory O'Donnell rory.odonn...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Benedict, As I already mentioned we have prepared guidance on migrating some of the more common usage patterns of JDK-internal

Re: Analysis of commons-jelly-1.0 commons-launcher-1.1 dependencies on JDK-Internal APIs

2014-10-17 Thread Paul Libbrecht
oct. 2014, at 20:48, Rory O'Donnell rory.odonn...@oracle.com wrote: Let me try one at a time - commons-jelly attached. Rgds,Rory On 17/10/2014 19:22, Paul Libbrecht wrote: Rory, I see no attachments here. Can you post it to some web-place please? paul On 17 oct. 2014, at 10:42

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 15 oct. 2013 à 07:33, Dave Brosius dbros...@apache.org a écrit : I couldn't disagree more. Dormant/attic means the project has leprosy. I don't know the answer to this, but wondering, has there ever been a commit to an attic'ed project? I personally would never think of doing that. As

Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Phil, The proposal is not to move it anywhere, just designate it as dormant so people know no one is currently working on it. Honestly, it is basically *acknowledging* its currently dead state. Absolutely! If you intend to work on it, you can commit to the svn file hen posted top of this

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept BeanShell to Commons Sandbox (Was: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator)

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Being a happy user of BeanShell (in the jEdit world) and being a sleepy Apache Commons committer. I'm all in favor of seeing beanshell come in here. paul On 28 mai 2013, at 09:34, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi all PMC members, I started a VOTE thread in general@incubator to accept BeanShell in

Re: Semantic versioning

2013-05-24 Thread Paul Libbrecht
With what project Jochen? paul On 24 mai 2013, at 09:46, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, for those of you who don't know it, this pointer: http://semver.org/ IMO, it is what we basically do, without expressing it so well. Jochen -- That's what prayers are ... it's frightened

Re: commons-monitoring?

2013-02-16 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Javamelody a part of apache-commons? That would feel really cool to my eyes. pual On 16 févr. 2013, at 20:54, Emeric wrote: Hi, To be a bit more precise, the license of javamelody [1] is LGPL, not GPL, and I am able to relicense it if needed. The jrobin dependency for RRD is also LGPL.

Re: commons-monitoring?

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Benedikt, On 13 févr. 2013, at 08:49, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Commons components usually don't have any dependencies. How would you implement this under this restriction? I've never seen this written before. Have you? paul

Re: Trouble submitting a patch

2012-10-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Gary, please read commons-dev netiquette. You definitely need to express the sub-project name. paul Le 14 oct. 2012 à 05:32, Gary Lucas a écrit : Damjan, I just submitted a new Tracker Item, #93, and a patch. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to find a control for granting a

Re: RSS?

2012-10-13 Thread Paul Libbrecht
To produce RSS, I've used Jelly quite happily. I know it is not actively supported and has some flaws... but to output xml, it plays really well. Paul Le 13 oct. 2012 à 07:12, Gary Gregory a écrit : It seems like Rome development has staled. Is the library fully baked? I am going to churn

Re: Conversion utility class

2012-02-04 Thread Paul Libbrecht
How about commons-codec? paul Le 4 févr. 2012 à 06:38, ma...@nimp.co.uk a écrit : Hello, I am developing a utility class and would like to contribute it to an Apache project. I am writing to know if Apache commons is the right project, which sub project would be the right place and then

[?] plist codec?

2011-07-27 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello list, I've met configuration's implementation of the plist parser and writer but I would like something more of the nature of a marshall/demarshaller, using BeanUtils. I am wondering there's another API in the commons world that does this. I haven't found any. I have started mine which

Re: [?] plist codec?

2011-07-27 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 27 juil. 2011 à 13:25, Torsten Curdt a écrit : There is already a plist lib out there. http://code.google.com/p/plist/ That said - it's GPL so it's the same as not usable for the most of us. Moreover, that library is not doing object instantiation the way BeanUtils does it. Plists

Re: [VOTE] Revised dormancy policy

2011-05-16 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Sorry Phil, I missed that one. I would like to adjust that policy at line: d) svn remains open (but no commits without revival vote) It seems slightly too harsh to me. Since jelly is among the heaviest targeted ones here, I think the whole dormancy aspect would fit but preventing commits

Re: [VOTE] Revised dormancy policy

2011-05-16 Thread Paul Libbrecht
So we should relaunch a vote? (or... I should vote a no and relaunch?) paul Le 16 mai 2011 à 23:44, Phil Steitz a écrit : d) svn remains open (but no commits without revival vote) It seems slightly too harsh to me. Since jelly is among the heaviest targeted ones here, I think the whole

Re: [ALL] Commons Attic

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Henri, I can't prevent it but I am not for it. So here's my +0 for each of the proposals: Le 11 avr. 2011 à 07:12, Henri Yandell a écrit : * Proposal #1: Create a Commons Attic. +0 (attic is even better than not actively maintained) So: * Proposal #2: Move Jelly to Commons Attic. +0. (I

Re: [Commons Wiki] Update of FrontPage by rinku

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Libbrecht
This sounds like a spam, right? I have simply removed it. Does anyone know if we should do more? I am not sure I know how to find the user-name of user rinku except being admin. paul Le 25 févr. 2011 à 11:02, Apache Wiki a écrit : + * [[http://www.paycor.com/|hr services]] high-performance,

Re: [lang] Android users wanted :)

2011-02-04 Thread Paul Libbrecht
A friend responded the following: Although Android Programs are written in Java, there is no Java VM on Android Devices, they use the so called Dalvik VM. So when writing programs for Android devices, one needs the Android SDK which contains a cross compiler that translates the java code.

Re: [lang] math expression parser

2011-01-06 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Frank, why not propose this as another project? It requires more maintenance, that is true. Sandbox is designed for that, including to evaluate if there are user bases. I tend to feel your contribution is not useless. A readable syntax instead of java syntax for formulæ that are rather longer

Re: [lang] math expression parser

2011-01-05 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Frank, I don't see why langs would have this, especially since it generally involves variables, scopes, objects, etc. Can you compare that to JEXL ? paul Le 5 janv. 2011 à 20:49, frank asseg a écrit : hola guys, i am currently working on a math expression parser, and wanted to ask if

Re: [lang] math expression parser

2011-01-05 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Well... I never thought about such but maybe it's indeed useful. Something short and tiny that is a lot more compact than the java syntax for math but would have about the same capabilities. I am not used to commit to lang so we'll have to wait for them to answer. I find the classname

Re: [jexl] how to access properties of nested java dataobject

2010-10-25 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Clouduser, (that doesn't taste like a name), provided a is in context of type A and class A has a getter getB() then ${A.b} gives you the return of getB(). That's how I always accessed nested java objects. I don't understand your XML-example though... at least not its relevance for jexl. Can

Re: [codec] Koelner Phonetik (cologne phonetic)

2010-09-15 Thread Paul Libbrecht
How does it compare to the Metaphone results? paul Le 15 sept. 2010 à 09:56, Meyer Falk a écrit : Ok, thank you. There's now an issue at JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-106 Best regards, Falk Am Montag, den 13.09.2010, 08:56 -0400 schrieb James Carman: Perhaps file

[jelly] Jelly site slow update

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello developers, I took a little time to try to rebuild the site so as to answer the question of Oliver Heger on the commons-users mailing-list and it turned out to be less painful then expected. I uploaded a preview of the rebuild at:

Re: [JELLY] Branch to prepare for JEXL-2.0 enhancements?

2009-09-16 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Henri, Some people might even say the whole of Jelly is dormant, and indeed, I, as many other jelly committers have been unable to find cycles to simply fix the most elementary things such as the wrong how-to-start. Maven 2 is not using Jelly, that was one of the reason for them to move

Re: [JELLY] Branch to prepare for JEXL-2.0 enhancements?

2009-09-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Henri, this would be welcome but it might be quite hard since jelly and maven 1 have been living hand in hand for a long time and there's still a huge lot of maven.xml code in the many jelly projects. Le 14-sept.-09 à 15:54, Henrib a écrit : It might be convenient to create a branch in

[jexl] has ExpressionFactory disappeared? (was Re: [g...@vmgump]: Project commons-jelly (in module commons-jelly) failed)

2009-09-11 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello Jexl developers, has ExpressionFactory disappeared? Did package-names maybe change? I guess I would appreciate to revert that bit, maybe by explicitly depending on jexl 1? paul Le 11-sept.-09 à 13:43, commons-jelly development (running Gump) a écrit : [javac]

Re: [jexl] Remove Maven 1 support from 2.0 branch?

2009-06-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Won't this break anything that uses Maven 1 and jexl as dependency in Gump? Is there a way around here? I'm thinking of jelly at least. paul On 13-juin-09, at 13:11, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi there, just thought it would be nice removing M1 support from the 2.0 branch, which deals

Re: [cli] Git mirror available

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Libbrecht
So commits in svn and in git are compatible ? paul Le 27-mai-09 à 12:25, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : Thanks to the infrastructure team a Git mirror is now available for Commons CLI: git://git.apache.org/commons-cli.git Emmanuel Bourg

Re: commons-logging unsuited for cross-context webapplication invocation usage - migrating to slf4j?

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
allow me to chim in, does it make sense to expect *predictable results* ? What you should always configure is the default logging, and that's done, traditionally, by making the normal threshold either info or error in the programme, maybe that could be enhanced (preferred- level ?). Full

Re: commons-logging unsuited for cross-context webapplication invocation usage - migrating to slf4j?

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Ah, that's more clear. But again, it cannot be predictable and pluggeable, or? paul Le 21-avr.-09 à 22:27, Dennis Lundberg a écrit : Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I was not talking about configuring the *level* of logging, but rather the logging implementation being used. smime.p7s

Re: commons-logging unsuited for cross-context webapplication invocation usage - migrating to slf4j?

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
this is the type of comments I had heard several times about commons- logging... classloader issue... I never understood them, what you describe is a probably hypothesis. paul Le 22-avr.-09 à 00:03, John Bollinger a écrit : I confess that I don't understand the portal environment very well,

Re: commons-logging unsuited for cross-context webapplication invocation usage - migrating to slf4j?

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
-logging.properties file in your class path with the following line in it: org .apache .commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.Log4JLogger That will choose log4j for you. Paul Libbrecht wrote: Ah, that's more clear. But again, it cannot be predictable and pluggeable, or? smime.p7s Description

Re: [io?] [all] flexible char-array ?

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Libbrecht
That may be well the case, the need for such flexibility in images is probably there, however if this would be adopted it really need appropriate names, something of the sort BigString. paul Le 08-avr.-09 à 11:36, Jörg Schaible a écrit : Have a look at the different

[io?] [all] flexible char-array ?

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello commons list, one thing I keep seeing around is people exchanging either too big strings, byte-arrays, or stringbuffers. It looks like, they one has still not found something sensible that describes something close to an array of characters so: - that can give its length - that

Re: New sandbox project -- Apache Commons (Portable) Runtime

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Libbrecht
This sounds good to me as an initiative. I am bit worried with the title apr (or is it acr?) since it overlaps a lot with apache httpd's apr (which is widespread in many distributions as one of the bases of httpd). Wouldn't ajr be better a term since it's about a java binding? Is tomcat

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
It may be worth quoting that: - it's livable to be registered to commons-dev without filter (you need a swift delete key) - the filter practice is deep anchored until the netiquette for both commons-dev and commons-user so that mails without the project prefix are very quickly warned about

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Erm... what about xml-commons ? http://xml.apache.org/commons/ is this considered dropped? At least another project that's in the realm of xml-commons is xml- resolver, or? Would that migrate in as well? It could but... paul Le 29-déc.-08 à 11:06, Jochen Wiedmann a écrit : On Mon, Dec

Re: [g...@vmgump]: Project commons-jelly-tags-ant (in module commons-jelly) failed

2008-12-02 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Thanks Stefan, I will fix this, most probably today. Except rolling back it's not really easy... It took me a while to understand why I could not reproduce it but now I know that it is because many taglibs aren't flagged to depend on jelly core snapshot, which I will change now. paul Le

usage of amath-one today morning

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Libbrecht
hello ActiveMathers, I would be happy if amath-one is not too loaded this morning since we're demonstrating a bit at the intergeo review. thanks on advance paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread Paul Libbrecht
you're supporting, hence the reason for a patch submission to JIRA yesterday (with a follow-up in response to your comments today). John - Original Message - From: Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-10 Thread Paul Libbrecht
John, Le 10-nov.-08 à 07:11, John Spackman a écrit : Yes, kind of - I've only recently come across Git and the concept of DVCS but it was my intention to look at using a DVCS for this. But DVCS only does source code - setting up a seperate branch only works if the community at large see the

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello John, I think it would be lovely to start some maintenance and to get an extra committer aboard. The procedure to become so, however, really starts with the other methods (mailing-list and jira in particular). The focus on the core of jira is rather happy. I am more than happy to

Re: [all] Marking components as inactive

2008-11-07 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Henry, I'm not opposed to such a process for Jelly. One important point is that migrating from and to N.A.M. is relatively flawless. What does imply remove from trunks-proper, just an externals? If yes I would have no big problem. Please note that making the docu reasonable is a bit more

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 05-nov.-08 à 10:22, XuQing Tan a écrit : I'm recently investigating some excutable xml scripters. So I want to know is Jelly still in development, since it's last release is in 2004? Nick, Unfortunately no. For a long time it was annoyed by the fact that building it required huge

Re: [jelly] anteater forEach

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Siva, anteater is not very close to commons to my knowledge, as sebb pointed out somewhat quickly. I looked a bit at the documentation and saw they have jelly support as well which provides much of your expectations. The foreach tag, however, seems to be theirs. So, if you allow,

Re: [all][nabla] proposition for a new project in sandbox

2008-04-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
I would agree with Phil, as long as Math is not modularized (which turned out to be quite a hassle for jelly but probably pays on the long run, especially now that maven 1.1 handles reactor cleanly) Nabla should not be part of it. At least for the dependencies, it's quite different.

Re: [all][nabla] proposition for a new project in sandbox

2008-04-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 14 avr. 08 à 12:52, James Carman a écrit : Also, the name nabla would suggest that the component is designed for calculating derivatives of vector functions. The name nabla is also very close to nambla and I doubt the ASF wants to be associated with that organization. Nabla is also

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project commons-jelly-tags-jaxme (in module commons-jelly) failed

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Hello fellow developers, this component cannot be built anymore because Jaxme has too much evolved... and I'm afraid I know no-one that can upgrade jelly-jaxme for this. I already asked the original developer without success. Maybe it is simpler to remove it from gump which always works with