JAVA_HOME

2013-12-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5422 why?!

Re: JAVA_HOME

2013-12-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
) :-( On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5422 why?! -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com

Re: JAVA_HOME

2013-12-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
for now I worked around on Mac by export JAVA_HOME=$(/usr/libexec/java_home) :-( On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5422 why?! -- Carlos

Re: JAVA_HOME

2013-12-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
, but seems he was replacing windows' create batch files with node scripts, and perhaps a made a few windows-centric decisions for the platform as a whole. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: That's my q too On Dec 3, 2013 3:51 PM, Lorin Beer lorin.beer

Re: proposal to simplify hello world

2013-11-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
cross platform reset, and not much else. I even think we should dump the image. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: https://gist.github.com/brianleroux/7698123 Debating making the CSS external w/ the logo inlined. Probably

Re: cordova-plugins repo release

2013-11-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
for a Updated version to x.x.x commit. Do we need tags at all? On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: the problem wasn't isolated to the repo (there were many problems) but suffice to say lack of shared issue tracking was a key point of failure

proposal to simplify hello world

2013-11-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
https://gist.github.com/brianleroux/7698123 Debating making the CSS external w/ the logo inlined. Probably would be more clear.

Re: any plan to have a Qt5 backend?

2013-11-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
git://git.apache.org/cordova-ubuntu.git On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:00 AM, haithem rahmani haithem.rahm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I beleive our friends at Canonical have the freshest copy of Qt stuff

Re: [Android] Adding Robotium to Platform Tests

2013-11-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ya I see no reason why not. Joe you should talk to Lorin about this. I think he's going to be working w/ Fil to get end to end Appium tests running shortly too. (More to follow to the list on that from Lorin / Fil.) On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote:

Re: Intro email

2013-11-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
Welcome aboard Kyle! On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Lorin Beer lorin.beer@gmail.comwrote: Hi Kyle, welcome to the list! On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM, James Jong wjamesj...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Kyle! -James Jong On Nov 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Kyle Nitzsche

Re: amazon-fireos core plugin pull requests..Please review

2013-11-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
Aiming for a Dec release of 3.3 which hopefully can include both FireOS and Ubuntu platforms but, it is Dec, so we might have to bump to Jan. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Naik, Archana na...@lab126.com wrote: Hi, Steven Do you know when will amazon-fireos be part of cordova's official

Re: amazon-fireos core plugin pull requests..Please review

2013-11-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Aiming for a Dec release of 3.3 which hopefully can include both FireOS and Ubuntu platforms but, it is Dec, so we might have to bump to Jan. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Naik, Archana na...@lab126.com wrote: Hi, Steven

Re: any plan to have a Qt5 backend?

2013-11-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
I beleive our friends at Canonical have the freshest copy of Qt stuff as it relates to Cordova. No idea how much to genericize that would be. Hmm. Is genericize a word? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:28 PM, haithem rahmani haithem.rahm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, the Qt backend has been removed since

Re: 3.2.0 released

2013-11-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
You should download the binary for the user in the script. Node has a cross platform http lib. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Naik, Archana na...@lab126.com wrote: Thank you Steven for doing this!! CLI Plugman are both on a fireos branch. They both require more work. CLI - firstly I

Re: cordova-plugins repo release

2013-11-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Super disagree about putting src into a single big repo. I get why we do that. I do not buy that we 'have too many repos' or that complexity is minimized by combining. Anyhow: not a discussion I think is even worth us having AGAIN. =/ On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Braden Shepherdson

Re: Cordova Debug Mode

2013-11-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I tend to agree w/ Joe here. Abstracting ./release is a nice idea on the surface but this should really live in our docs as the process is far more manual and store specific than can be automated in a useful manner. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Cordova Debug Mode

2013-11-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Proposal: 1. We open bugs to document how to create release software for all the platforms. 2. We review to see if there is anything common we can abstract Cool? On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Lets distinguish between CLI as (a) one of two

Re: cordova-plugins repo release

2013-11-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
the problem wasn't isolated to the repo (there were many problems) but suffice to say lack of shared issue tracking was a key point of failure and inability to discreetly version changesets created more suffering than good On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote:

Re: Updating FileTransfer

2013-11-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
version bump and an api change… but isn’t that what we seem to already be discussing? 1. http://caniuse.com/#feat=xhr2 On 23 Nov 2013, at 9:02 am, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ya FileTransfer not a spec and this is mostly solved now by XHR2 which our File implementation predates

Re: Updating FileTransfer

2013-11-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
-Original Message- From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 5:11 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Updating FileTransfer Answers inline. Does FileTransfer implement any

Re: Updating FileTransfer

2013-11-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Answers inline. Does FileTransfer implement any published standard, or is it our own API? Nope. Does it make sense for FileTransfer to continue to use raw FileSystem paths (and *not* go through File at all?) given that the File API will soon be returning only relative paths and

Re: [proposal] Deprecate WP7 as a target platform

2013-11-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:53 PM, RUDD, Brett brettr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 -Brett On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Herm Wong kingoftheo...@hotmail.com wrote: +1 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:00:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [proposal] Deprecate WP7 as a target platform From:

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yup that is a sound plan. I think we should continue discussion on the config file thing however. We have clearly accumulated some technical debt here as it is difficult to reason (even describe) the config file dog pile. Given the maturity of Cordova I feel paying off tech debt is crucially

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Awesome stuff Ian. Our community is going to love this. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM, purplecabbage purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Considering the magnitude of the changes I would have expected that this was

Re: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Enjoy the warmth and pls have a drink on Bourbon Street for me! (Also everyone def check out Andrew's Full Frontal presentation. Loads of great mobile web perf stuff in there.) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Dick Van den Brink d_vandenbr...@outlook.com wrote: Have fun! Sent from my

Re: input type=file broken on Android 4.4

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think it is reasonable that we choose to allow a polyfill for this regardless of the Google stance. The change is very likely to break existing users and just b/c it was 'private' doesn't mean that it wasn't exposed. Maybe this is just a docs issue given we have the scaffolding to fix this with

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 2:47 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: so would it be insane to deprecate the name thing and just go ID? (Warning: I am insane.) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Shazron Abdullah s...@adobe.com wrote: Brian: plugin mapping service js name

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: First thing: might as well give up on referencing config.xml as a standard. That's a historical footnote of little relevance anymore! It feels leaky to define the mapping in feature. Would seem

Re: input type=file broken on Android 4.4

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
on the body looking for clicks on input type=file, and then hijacking the onsubmit() of the form. Ugly. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I think it is reasonable that we choose to allow a polyfill for this regardless of the Google stance. The change is very

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
devs (feature) from tags that are generated by plugman (cordova-plugin) On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ok, everybody be calm. We are adults and we are capable of working through this in a dispassionate manner and has nothing to do with you, your code

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
project (.cordova/config.json) and a single global config for plugman/cli (~/.cordova, ~/.plugman). So I guess if the above two points were addressed I would be happy even though it seems like a lot at first glance. -Michal On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Brian LeRoux b

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
. That timing works for me, Anis. I'll see you, and any other interested parties, there and then. If you're not Anis, add +Braden Shepherdson ahead of time and I'll make sure you get added into the Hangout. Braden On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: This is helpful. I

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
this is written down anywhere right now, just in my and Anis's heads. Braden On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1N2k0-F1pU On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote

Re: Blog Post Review

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
ship it! On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Inlining instead of using reviewboard: --- layout: post author: name: Andrew Grieve url: https://twitter.com/GrieveAndrew title: Action Required: Android KitKat Compatibility categories:

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
So would a plugin author not be the one to define a mapping? Seems gratuitous for a userland feature. On Nov 14, 2013 6:41 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: plugin.xml is where *plugin authors* define metadata. A user shouldn't be looking there at all, unless for curiosity, and

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
Thx Dick. So, Braden/Josh: did we discuss these semantics changes on list at all or was this just colloquially decided out off list and implemented? The latter is not cool. If I missed the former I apologize. I don't have a problem with this new feature per se but I don't think it has been

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
for review. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Thx Dick. So, Braden/Josh: did we discuss these semantics changes on list at all or was this just colloquially decided out off list and implemented? The latter is not cool. If I missed the former I

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
So, specifically, you require ID and VERSION for runtime introspection? Why not just add that to feature? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.orgwrote: The feature tags list only those plugins which are relevant to the bridge. Also they map from exec

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
here's a query: what are we using feature for? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.comwrote: If a plugin does not inject a feature tag for some reason it is the same deal as before. Plugman injects one with the id and version as params. If a plugin has multiple

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
what are we using feature for? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@google.comwrote: My concern with (ab)using feature tags for this is that now platforms that don't know about these parameters, and especially about the dummy ones for js-only plugins, have a bug, rather

audit of configuration

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
So we currently have: - config.xml - .cordova/config.json - ./plugins/[PLATFORM].json Am I missing anything?

Re: plugins tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
so would it be insane to deprecate the name thing and just go ID? (Warning: I am insane.) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Shazron Abdullah s...@adobe.com wrote: Brian: plugin mapping service js name - service native name/class On 11/13/13 2:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: what

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
/config Welcome to our world. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: each plugin has plugin.xml. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So we currently have: - config.xml - .cordova/config.json - ./plugins

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: During the lull in Ripple's development it definitely felt risky but the project has become rather active again of late. The big advantage is the mocking for all the Cordova specific stuff (like deviceready). We

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
My definition of working is deployed not 'works on my machine'. =) I'm not comfortable pushing just this. Steve and/or Braden: are we stable to push a release now that this is apparently fixed? On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Brian wrote: did you try

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
weird. this is working? On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: cordova cli 3.2.0-rc.1 -- cordova serve works fine on iOS On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I confirm Tim's results (but this was 3.1.0-0.1.0), haven't tried 3.2 rc1

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
. Cordova plugins aren't going to work, deviceready won't fire, etc. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: weird. this is working? On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: cordova cli 3.2.0-rc.1 -- cordova serve works fine on iOS

Re: Tools release today?

2013-11-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ship it. Also remember dependences can be version locked w npm so releases not interdependent. Let's ship as often as possible and consider the 'once a week' thing a minimum. (Unless there is nothing to ship.) On Nov 8, 2013 10:51 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to

Re: New filesystem roots API?

2013-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm trying to understand: precisely what does this provide us that requestFileSystem does not? (Currently.) I think it currently

android target level

2013-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
Apologies I think there is another thread about this but I'd like to understand more about what we're thinking here. There's been discussion that we should make this configurable. I disagree. I think we need to target highest available level possible, as we always have in the past, and take

cordova serve broken

2013-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
Feels like we're starting to regress rather often on the CLI these past two releases. This is due to not running tests (or indeed writing them). Thats fine. Stuff happens. A gentle reminder: - If there is a bug: write a test - If you are adding or refactoring code: run the tests That is all.

Re: cordova serve broken

2013-11-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
Also: wonder if it is time to revisit this as just Ripple. The new version of Ripple is pretty awesome. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Feels like we're starting to regress rather often on the CLI these past two releases. This is due to not running tests

Re: PhoneGap Day Brazil

2013-11-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
We postponed. Tacit plan is Brazil (late fall), Japan (spring), Portland (late spring), and Amsterdam (early fall) next year. On Nov 5, 2013 11:07 AM, Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon) v-seg...@microsoft.com wrote: Does anyone know if the event will take place? It was previously announced as PhoneGap

Re: Andrew's Quiet this Week

2013-11-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
Look fwd to this! When do you arrive? Would be cool to get you to pop into the phonegap workshop day before to show off some chromium plugin goodness. :) On Nov 5, 2013 12:26 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Just wanted to give a heads up that I'm prepping for a talk at Full

Re: Proposed changes to Cordova File API

2013-11-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
Love it. Now that this business is independently versioned I say we charge ahead with the changes ruthlessly. This is the most adopted plugin and long standing PITA! On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: So, coming out of our meetup last week, we

Re: New filesystem roots API?

2013-11-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm trying to understand: precisely what does this provide us that requestFileSystem does not? (Currently.) Another thing to consider, we need to document the differences from the W3C proposed standards and get that feedback back to the browser vendors. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Ian

Re: HiRes Cordova Images

2013-11-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
The psds are in http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html downloads but I am unsure if they are vector because, perhaps embarrassingly, I do not have photoshop installed on this particular machine. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: We're looking to make

Re: platform add android skips bat files on os x

2013-11-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 file an issue! On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: It is intentional but it is a use case that wasn't thought of because every single one of us use Mac OS X. I would file an issue. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Axel Nennker ignisvul...@gmail.com

Re: Chromeview has arrived in Android 4.4!!!!

2013-10-31 Thread Brian LeRoux
omfg thank you google! On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.comwrote: Celebrate! https://developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/webview/overview

Re: keyboard mobile-spec test

2013-10-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm not a very big fan of this sub directory business anyhow. Too many ways to fail. It would be better, in my mind, if we aimed to always have one repo equals one package. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: if we had the cordova-plugins repo created, this won't

Re: Plugin migration to plugins.cordova.io

2013-10-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am in favor of putting the contents of that repo in a branch (maybe called DEPRECATED) so it is very clear what is going on and throwing up said readme. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: We should just trash that repository and add the instructions to

Re: Apache cordova swag ATO?

2013-10-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
Carlos, pls email your address and shirt size offlist. =) On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: I'm attending ATO [1] conference and realize that will be cool to wear Cordova t-shirt Who do I need to bribe or how can I order one? Oh by the way if any

Re: Mobile spec tests and exclusion list

2013-10-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
I grok the theory here but not sure I agree w/ the practice. The working 'master' should always be green. Working branches should be the place where failing tests happen. If I'm looking to collaborate I won't be hacking on any branches w/ failing tests b/c I'll just assume the developers are in

Re: create and override of default template

2013-10-28 Thread Brian LeRoux
Indeed, the CLI should not care about the platform. The ./cordova/create script is very concerned with platform. That is where our impedance mismatch exists. =) We need ALL platforms to allow for this capability in ./cordova/bin/create before we can surface in the CLI. That would be the next

Re: cordova release naming -- proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
YES! We've been talking about this for years. Al and I felt racing horse names would be fun. Or perhaps a concatenation of spanish words and popular Canadian things. Beuno Syrup is way cooler than 3.2.x On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca ldel...@us.ibm.comwrote: I propose we

Re: Cordova Issue Workflow

2013-10-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
Quick side note: Thanks for taking this on Josh. Cordova is kind of an older project and in that maturity things seem to sag and wilt without exercise: especially wiki articles about our process! On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: That's true. It's also

Re: config.xml discussion, we need to talk

2013-10-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
Multi Platform or Cross Platform is also fine Using Flow or Mode is also fine On Friday, October 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Ya, to me the difference is that one workflow embraces the native platform and tooling (plugman and bin/scripts) while

Re: new meta data for plugin.xml

2013-10-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
Not so much an accident as very deliberate! When we started this is how you worked with JSON: var data = eval('' + my_json_string + '') We then had some fun w/ Crockford's JSON lib licensing. [1] Specifically IBM did not like the enforceability of The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.

Re: iOS only cordova-labs plugins (keyboard and statusbar, in plugins branch) - move to cordova-ios repo

2013-10-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
, which may very well have value (esp for tooling support like coho). -Michal On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I think having a staging area for plugins is a good idea and leaving cordova-labs as a prototyping area. Ideally we graduate plugins out of cordova

Re: iOS only cordova-labs plugins (keyboard and statusbar, in plugins branch) - move to cordova-ios repo

2013-10-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think having a staging area for plugins is a good idea and leaving cordova-labs as a prototyping area. Ideally we graduate plugins out of cordova-plugins if they get any sort of traction at all and require discreet issue tracking. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI

Re: config.xml discussion, we need to talk

2013-10-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ya, to me the difference is that one workflow embraces the native platform and tooling (plugman and bin/scripts) while the other focuses on building a web project (cli/merges/etc). As a dev, if I'm ONLY worried about one platform (like a Cordova implementor or many of our community folk) then

Re: Default template - size

2013-10-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
ya merges also think we should redo that app to something more sane and tiny On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't think about merges -- +1 merges for moi On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the images we use

Re: Github mirrors

2013-10-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
ya we want everything possible to be mirrored On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe they should be as well. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:46 AM, David Kemp drk...@chromium.org wrote: When I went to add to the cordova-medic repo, I found that is was not

Re: config.xml discussion, we need to talk

2013-10-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
I don't really appreciate comments that we don't talk to our users, or build apps in anger. Neither of those assertions are true. The origins of these initiatives are based on both community feedback, and direct experience. Keeping your focus on just pure platform side of a project is fine, of

Re: Platforms Meet-up @ Waterloo

2013-10-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yes a google hangout and/or recording would be awesome. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: I sent a request to our management team for travel, I don't think it's going to get approved in this short time notice. We would like to participate if you guys

Re: Tag 2.9.1

2013-10-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
feature) - stop backporting anything to 2.9 when 3.5 comes out If so, should this be spelled out somwhere, such as cordova.apache.org/blog? On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: 3.5 (Or six months.) But ya, what Jesse said. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Jesse

Re: Node-Webkit

2013-10-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Cordova is mostly about phones (except when its OS X and Windows). Node support is not a project goal though I would encourage you to look at authoring plugins for iOS, Android, Windows Phone that mimic Node APIs if that is something you're looking for. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Maxime

Re: officially supported plugins from the Cordova community

2013-10-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
oversight opened a bug: http://issues.cordova.io/5089 On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the question I'm wondering about: The console plugin is not documented in cordova-docs. Is that an oversight, or is it a plugin that is treated differently?

Re: Tag 2.9.1

2013-10-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
3.5 (Or six months.) But ya, what Jesse said. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Jesse wrote: I would not add iOS7 support. I would consider adding any plugin changes if it is not too difficult to do so. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com

Re: Medic status and plans

2013-10-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
:-/ On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Kind of a chicken/egg problem. Will this cleanly merge or should we just force push it in? On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:42 AM, David Kemp drk...@google.com wrote: I'm happy to put the bb-test code

Re: mobile-spec and releases: How do we test?

2013-10-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
...@chromium.org wrote: Which one? On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I really like your proposal as a starting point. Very simple but would allow for in-app testing as well as on the cmd line if we so wish. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Michal Mocny

Re: Medic development effort consolidation

2013-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'd love to see this be an open and *joint effort* extending from Medic if possible. If that means a force push from David's repo, while I don't love it, so be it. While I'm still unsure of the precise definition of The Apache Way I'm pretty certain that would not be it! On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at

Re: Medic status and plans

2013-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
Kind of a chicken/egg problem. Will this cleanly merge or should we just force push it in? On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:42 AM, David Kemp drk...@google.com wrote: I'm happy to put the bb-test code into the official repo. I was hoping to do that soon but I do not think I am an official committer

Re: Issues with uploading to Phonegap build

2013-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hey Rima, this list is for the development of Apache Cordova. Please direct your PhoneGap/Build questions here: http://community.phonegap.com/nitobi/products/nitobi_phonegap_build Thank you. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:26 PM, rima al rimaayama...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, My app is 557942

Re: [iOS] Moving setting of UIWebView properties to its own plugin from the core

2013-10-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am all in favor of distilling platforms down to the very essence and 'plugin all the things'. Way easier for issue tracking, maintenance, and upgrading. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5026 Pros: - if iOS = 8

Re: Cordova non-CLI development (was: Re: Updating plugin code on prepare)

2013-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
/me highfives On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Tyler Wilson twil...@symbeeco.com wrote: Sorry, I sent too soon. I had not put the right params to the command. It appears to be working fine. Nothing to see here.. - Tyler On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Tyler Wilson twil...@pulse-robotics.com

Re: Cordova non-CLI development (was: Re: Updating plugin code on prepare)

2013-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
Plugman is intended to work directly on native projects (and Cordova CLI should delegate all plugin related things to it). If this is not the case you have found a bug! On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Tyler Wilson twil...@symbeeco.com wrote: So, I was trying to use the Cordova CLI for a real

cordova-ubuntu git repo created

2013-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
Good news everyone! We have a Cordova/Ubuntu repo. =) https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-ubuntu.git

Re: Plugin Generator

2013-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
Here is a shameless plug for my blog where i go into a bit more detail: http://blog.lholmquist.org/cordova/phonegap/yeoman/plugman/2013/10/03/plugin-generator/ On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 totally awesome On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3

Re: Cordova for Ubuntu

2013-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
First step is to get a CLA signed w/ Apache. [1] The next steps are to read up on how to become a committer [2] and the workflow for contribution [3] and committers [4]. I just filed an issue w/ Infra to get a new repo setup for cordova-ubuntu. [5] Not much we can do there until we have a Repo.

Re: Cordova for Ubuntu

2013-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
the difference between committer and contributor? I mean what make me one or the other. Who decides? Thanks Archana On 10/7/13 6:18 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: First step is to get a CLA signed w/ Apache. [1] The next steps are to read up on how to become a committer [2] and the workflow

Re: Cordova for Ubuntu

2013-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Naik, Archana na...@lab126.com wrote: Thanks Brian. So for a contributor, after sending pull requests what are the next steps? Does contributor also send review-board requests? If approved who merges code to apache git from contributor's fork or repo? Archana On 10/7/13 10:52 AM, Brian LeRoux

Re: Tagging 3.1.0 today?

2013-10-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ On Oct 3, 2013 2:40 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: WHO! On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I have temporarily set the download back to dist.apache.org. I will change it once our stuff gets mirrored. Doap file

chrome dev summit

2013-10-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
anyone here going? http://developer.chrome.com/devsummit

Re: Mapping plugin ID - URL

2013-10-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
by project level deps (do those exist)? On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So wait, the use case is proj level deps not plugin level? On Oct 1, 2013 10:50 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: There is a need to have plugman look in places other

Re: Mapping plugin ID - URL

2013-10-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
:31 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Could you give an example of how you'd use npm or vendor dependencies? On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Ok, wanted clarity there. Node tried similar approaches and ultimately they lead to complexity pain

Re: Mapping plugin ID - URL

2013-10-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
So wait, the use case is proj level deps not plugin level? On Oct 1, 2013 10:50 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: There is a need to have plugman look in places other than the registry when fetching plugins by ID. This is particularly the case because dependency plugins now have

Re: Updating plugin code on prepare

2013-09-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'd like to point out we're talking about the future and not the present too. Yes, its a pain to dev a plugin without an IDE today. That isn't a reason to sit on our hands. Iain has the right of it: our job is to implement the future not lament the present. The future is most certainly not

Re: mobile-spec and releases: How do we test?

2013-09-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
tags (assets, js-modules, source-file..). -Michal On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I think this is basically what we've been proposing for a while now. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I would suggest

Re: Android platform scripts

2013-09-27 Thread Brian LeRoux
Giver. Now, instead if the grand rewrite how about a refactor of a single method for review. Easier for us to buy in and perhaps collab on w you. On Sep 27, 2013 7:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson bra...@chromium.org wrote: I had since learned that shelljs is used for other things. That's fine, it's

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