Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-04 Thread Michal Mocny
isn't ideal but it isn't completely unmanageable either. It just makes the workflow a little more complex. -Terence On 6/3/2014 7:12 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: We don't do platform-plugin version matching *at all* today. Everyone uses the latest plugins and any platform version

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-04 Thread Michal Mocny
, but I do not know who would be willing able to do it.) In the mean time, the existing CLI is already solving all the use cases pointed out in this thread, and I'm not aware of it being a problem. -Michal On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 4

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-04 Thread Michal Mocny
, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Micha you mean something like this? https://github.com/csantanapr/grunt-cordovacli On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: I think

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
clinging to old versions of CLI (e.g. they do this now because they don't want to update to new platforms) On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Andrew Grieve agri

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Thinking it through, if cordova platforms are deps of the CLI, to install a specific version you wouldn't just do: npm install -g cordova-ios@3.4.1 you would actually need to: cd $(npm config get prefix)/lib

Re: Attending WWDC 2014?

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
WKWebView?! On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: See API diffs: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releasenotes/General/iOS80APIDiffs/index.html Some random search terms: UIWebView, Tofu, Rice Pilaf, WebKit, Curry, Green Beans On Tue, Jun 3,

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
were added? -Terence On 6/3/2014 1:47 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: Okay, so I think that implies: (a) CLI versions tied to very specific platform versions == to switch platform versions you must switching CLI versions == switching one platform version switches all platform versions

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
? Would a project-platform have to be re-built if a plugin were added? -Terence On 6/3/2014 1:47 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: Okay, so I think that implies: (a) CLI versions tied to very specific platform versions == to switch platform versions you must switching CLI

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
I don't see how that can be true. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: You know how we do it today? Just like that. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Brian/Tommy, may you please write out the complete set of CLI commands

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
for each platform to be on different schedules. -Terence On 6/3/2014 6:17 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: Most plugins will work across a wide range of platform versions, so often it would work to have disparate platform versions even with plugins. However, I do concede that in general this isn't

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
platform to be on different schedules. -Terence On 6/3/2014 6:17 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: Most plugins will work across a wide range of platform versions, so often it would work to have disparate platform versions even with plugins. However, I do concede that in general this isn't a complexity

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
. While it is a significant regression, it's well within reason for something that should happen rarely. -Michal On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: We don't do platform-plugin version matching *at all* today. Everyone uses the latest plugins and any

Re: ngCordova

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
I remember seeing someone do a presentation about exactly this about a year ago. I see the repo is new -- Was that you with a previous project? Anyway good stuff, just hoping you aren't duplicating effort. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Max Lynch m...@drifty.com wrote: Hey everyone, We

Re: ChromeApps with amazon-fireos

2014-06-03 Thread Michal Mocny
Wrong mailing list? On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Naik, Archana na...@lab126.com wrote: Hi, Andrew I recently was looking at cca and tried adding amazon-fireos platform. Didn't quiet work smoothly. Platform add works fine. But cca build is failing because of wrong versionCode in

Re: new manifest spec from w3c

2014-06-02 Thread Michal Mocny
(Just thinking out loud, I agree we should just let this sit for a while) I kinda feel like the manifest linked here is a subset of the functionality cordova app manifest will need. Theres also a bootstrap problem that web apps define a manifest with a link tag. Quick strawman: Perhaps we add

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-02 Thread Michal Mocny
From original email: Ideal future CLI uses platforms just like other deps. We lose lazy loading but network and disk is cheap so it wasn't really important anyhow. Made me think Brian is proposing adding platforms to cli package.json dependencies, and you would have a single global install

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-06-02 Thread Michal Mocny
: Can multiple versions of a platform be installed side-by-side? -Terence On 6/2/2014 3:04 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: From original email: Ideal future CLI uses platforms just like other deps. We lose lazy loading but network and disk is cheap so it wasn't really

Re: documentation for committing / cordova

2014-05-29 Thread Michal Mocny
At the bottom there is a link for processing PR: https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/blob/master/docs/committer-workflow.md#processing-pull-requests On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Andrew wrote: It's linked to off of here:

Re: HTML5DevConf Intro talk slides interview

2014-05-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Lisa, I love the slide deck, one of the best yet! Thanks for sharing! Feedback: I think think the slide on 2.0 vs 3.0 could do with some more clarity, though I guess its inherently hard to capture in one picture. Besides that, the pitch was perfect. Do you mind if we use some of your slides

Re: Android Plugin API

2014-05-29 Thread Michal Mocny
Erik, I think it should be possible leave the platform plugin interface as-is, and publish a plugin that does nothing but implement reflection-based-execute. Then, plugin authors can opt to use that as a base class for plugin development. I hesitate to give opinions on this topic, except to say

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-05-28 Thread Michal Mocny
I tend to agree with Andrew that it should not be necessary to add platforms to CLI's package.json dependency list. I'm not sure that there is a benefit to doing that, except perhaps that ability to add platforms when offline and you haven't loaded them previously. On the other hand, I think

Re: adding platforms to npm for dependency sanity

2014-05-28 Thread Michal Mocny
'). We should just update the platform scripts to check if (require.main === module). -Michal On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I tend to agree with Andrew that it should not be necessary to add platforms to CLI's package.json dependency list. I'm not sure

Re: Unknown committer

2014-05-28 Thread Michal Mocny
I think that may be the result of the way we do PR.. I merged the PR Joe points to, and I did it by pulling from his fork, and merging it into cordova-android. In theory, this way any edits I need to do end up in my merge commit, and the contributor changes are isolated in the original work

Re: Unknown committer

2014-05-28 Thread Michal Mocny
..both the git am --signoff and the git merge --no-ff option ends up with committer: and author: metadata that are not cordova committers. I think that should be fine so long as its clear which committer did the signoff / merge -- but wanted to confirm? On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Shazron

Re: Android: Deprecate WebView.sendJavascript()?

2014-05-26 Thread Michal Mocny
Should we write a plugin that must be installed along with cordova-android that does the suggested sendJavascript via PluginResults and swap the implementation on native-side? -Michal On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: It's probably a good candidate for

Re: [Android] 4.x branch

2014-05-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Of *course* lets do it asap. With the one caveat that we shouldn't ship until we are confident the API won't change *again* within a month and piss off devs, I think we should put all effort into this and ship asap. Also, the whole 4.0 thing is not a big deal any more. Shipping one platform to

Re: Installing local plugin dependencies

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Mocny
Chrome apps for mobile initially tried using local dependencies to solve the project-create-plugin-add while offline case. In the end, it didn't work for us, and isn't clear that it could ever work. E.g. if you specify local deps in your plugins, you cannot publish those plugin to registry.

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Mocny
...@brian.io wrote: https://github.com/TooTallNate/gnode/blob/master/README.md On May 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Damnit. Perplexing choice. Coho isn't released to end users, and the codebase is tremendously cleaner and more maintainable now

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Mocny
..but I haven't tested gnode on windows, sorry. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I no longer use node 0.11 and coho runs fine on 0.10 thanks to gnode. nvm/nave aren't necessary at all (I think), especially now that we don't need to switch node

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Mocny
, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: gnode seems good on windows Can I remove the --harmony-generators then? Or do I need to make a new root command? noho, windoho, woho, fauxho ? @purplecabbage risingj.com On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Mocny
/master/coho#L1 [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/blob/master/coho.cmd#L1 @purplecabbage risingj.com On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: RE: gnode, Awesome. RE: --harmony-generators, not sure what you mean. Did you add that manually

Re: CLI implementation for the save and restore plugins

2014-05-21 Thread Michal Mocny
In theory, but I think the point for now was that we aren't sure about the syntax and semantics. We should probably reach out using various channels to get users to try it and chime in, but its really early to start documenting lest users get upset when it breaks. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:16

Re: CLI implementation for the save and restore plugins

2014-05-21 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Mark em as experimental so ppl know we'll change them. Fairly common practice in frontend dev frameworks and Node. They are marked experimental both on CLI and docs On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: CLI implementation for the save and restore plugins

2014-05-21 Thread Michal Mocny
lol, thats not a bad suggestion. At the moment the list of experimental flags is short and we already need to explain that --experimental exists, so its left inline. We can make that change if this becomes a thing. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote:

Tracking Web Api vs Native Api feature gaps

2014-05-20 Thread Michal Mocny
Just found: https://github.com/w3c-webmob/web-api-gap It conveniently lists phonegap as well. -Michal

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
..also, seems its not warning when I attempt to remove a previously saved plugin. Not sure if that is a bug I introduced in my manual patch or if it existed before. -Michal On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: So, this patch needs updating now that cordova

Re: [DISCUSS] 3.5.0 Release

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Steven. Thats a good idea. This email just arrived in my inbox right now :/ (1 day behind). -Michal On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may have noticed I started vote threads yesterday for 3.5.0. I am planning on keeping them open

Re: Can we remove merges/ folder from the default application template?

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
I think thats the point. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Wargo, John john.wa...@sap.com wrote: I wouldn't - without it there new devs simply wouldn't know the option even exists. John M. Wargo Twitter: @johnwargo -Original Message- From: Michal Mocny [mailto:mmo...@google.com

Re: Can we remove merges/ folder from the default application template?

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
handling the default case and pre-populating the directories from custom locations. So I also filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6710 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I think thats the point. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Wargo, John john.wa

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
; +} On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.comwrote: Any updates for me? -- Gorkem On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:46

Re: Test.

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: 7 days ago - finally arrived, congrats On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote:

Re: [Android] Not so fast....API changes in Cordova-Android for Pluggable WebView

2014-05-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Chromium WebView would be quite the carrot to convince devs to accept change. With platform breakout looming, perhaps 4.0 isn't in the far future.. -Michal On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: Ugh... so I finally managed to get back to this, and spent a

CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-15 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm fairly happy with the state of the cordova-labs new-style test harness these days, and I think its time to get the ball rolling on replacing mobile spec [1]. I would really love to have everyone pitch in moving tests over if we agree this is a good future. Jesse and Bryan were nice enough to

Re: Nice Success Story Here

2014-05-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Great overview. DHH has quite the cult following so I wonder if this will cause ripples. Doesn't mention cordova/phonegap, curious if they evaluated it. -Michal -- Forwarded message -- From: Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM Subject: Nice

Can we remove merges/ folder from the default application template?

2014-05-15 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm not proposing we drop support for merges/, I just think that many apps don't use it so why show it by default? (We've done something similar for .cordova/ where its still supported but not created by default unless it actually has non-default values) The way merges/ works right now is

Test.

2014-05-15 Thread Michal Mocny

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-15 Thread Michal Mocny
s/cordova-plugin-test-harness/cordova-plugin-test-framework/ -- and I'm totally open to naming suggestions before we get stuck with this. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I'm fairly happy with the state of the cordova-labs new-style test harness

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-13 Thread Michal Mocny
Did you try it? Do you like it? ;) On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Michal Mocny wrote: Well it *is* a cordova plugin, in the sense that it has a plugin.xml and is managed using cordova plugin add/rm. It also exports js apis: a list of tests

Re: sans sudo on npm install

2014-05-13 Thread Michal Mocny
Tommy, how do you install locally? Specifically, do you install cordova inside a workspace, and if so, how do you create that workspace first? -Michal On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Tommy Williams to...@devgeeks.org wrote: Just as an aside, I go the other way.. I install Cordova locally.

Re: Jira permissions?

2014-05-13 Thread Michal Mocny
You were in the list of contributors, but were missing from the list of PMC on JIRA, so I added you. Were you able to assign issues to self earlier? I'm not actually sure which roles are needed for what. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t seem to

Re: Hangout Today?

2014-05-13 Thread Michal Mocny
I'm not sure that we have an agenda, and its pretty short notice. I'd be fine to reschedule. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Wargo, John john.wa...@sap.com wrote: Is there still a hangout scheduled for today? I've not seen any emails about it lately.

Re: Jira permissions?

2014-05-13 Thread Michal Mocny
cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: That fixed it, thanks Michal. I was able to assign issues to self earlier, which is why it seemed like a loss of permissions. On May 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: You were in the list of contributors, but were missing

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
reason we depend on node v0.11 to support 'yield'? Because I can live without that portion of the refactor ... seems very academic to me. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Damnit. Perplexing choice. Coho isn't released

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
(pinging the list, since I suspect this email was dropped last week.) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: s/cordova-plugin-test-harness/cordova-plugin-test-framework/ -- and I'm totally open to naming suggestions before we get stuck with this. On Wed

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
-* On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Michal Mocny wrote: s/cordova-plugin-test-harness/cordova-plugin-test-framework/ -- and I'm totally open to naming suggestions before we get stuck with this. I'd rather cordova-test-framework-plugins

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
(poke, due to email) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Added experimental flag to CLI (--experimental). Please wrap your handling of save restore commands with if (opts.experimental) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
performance hit. Autotests are currently 400kb of JS. - I don't think making it easy to turn an application into a unit test environment adds much value. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Michal Mocny wrote: Well it *is* a cordova plugin

Re: CDV New-Style tests, please try them out!

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Mocny
there without impacting application size/boot times. -Michal On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Idea: Once we have plugin level hooks, the test-harness plugin can ship with a hook to install all local plugins' tests by iterating the plugins/*/tests

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-05-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Added experimental flag to CLI (--experimental). Please wrap your handling of save restore commands with if (opts.experimental) On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: ..also, seems its not warning when I attempt to remove a previously saved plugin. Not sure

Re: cordova-js errors and coho

2014-05-07 Thread Michal Mocny
Damnit. Perplexing choice. Coho isn't released to end users, and the codebase is tremendously cleaner and more maintainable now. On the other hand, doing release testing using development version of node does seem odd. One possible solution, for now, is nvm supports changing the version for a

Re: cordova-lib split out

2014-05-05 Thread Michal Mocny
PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: Instructions for checking history in cordova-lib: git log file will show no history from before this commit for files that moved

Re: cordova-lib split out

2014-05-02 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Mark, I'll take a look now. One quick note: at the hangout we raised the option of placing everything in cordova-lib.git repo inside a top-level node_modules dir. There was some debate if that was a good idea, bad idea, or just a joke.. Right now, we think it may help with dev workflow,

Re: cordova-lib split out

2014-05-02 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: Instructions for checking history in cordova-lib: git log file will show no history from before this commit for files that moved. To see full history use either git log --follow file or git log cli_pre_lib old file

Re: cordova-lib split out

2014-05-02 Thread Michal Mocny
Added cordova-lib to coho repo list --- but I haven't figured out which lists it needs to go in yet, so that will need to be updated for releases etc. Mark, I noticed that cordova-lib is in CLI package.json deps, but not for plugman. I imagine thats an oversight? Also, if you npm install before

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 3.5.0

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Steven. Lets see what Joe/Ian say about cordova-android webview support. -Michal On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone! Shall we move forward with 3.5.0 release? Please list any issues that exist reasons to postpone. I know both

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
becomes harder to discover. We need to consider the platforms too since next stop is implementing cordova save/restore platforms -- Gorkem On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Gorkem, I also found an old JIRA duplicate issue for this which

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
://plugins.cordova.io/#/package/org.apache.cordova.camera;engine=3.4.0 and get the docs page for the best version of the camera plugin for *that* cordova release. Thoughts? On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Thats will be easy to pretend (just kidding! ;). Yes

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 3.5.0

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
. I'll have to let you know later today. Ian On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Thanks Steven. Lets see what Joe/Ian say about cordova-android webview support. -Michal On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Mike Billau mike.bil...@gmail.com wrote: So the plugin registry will go fetch the appropriate docs from github for whichever version of the plugin you are viewing by using the engine tag on the plugin page and comparing that to the git tags? And then the github

Re: First stab at Next Steps article

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Freak Show freaksho...@me.com wrote: On May 1, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: 1. Please don't mention WebSQL. RKC: Heh, well, it *works*, but yeah, ok, removed to make it more generic. Why? None of my apps work without it. We

Re: First stab at Next Steps article

2014-05-01 Thread Michal Mocny
Hey Freak, which plugins did you publish? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Freak Show freaksho...@me.com wrote: You write software that bypasses web browser security models and punches holes in the sandbox. How does that support the web? That's a good useful thing considering how badly the

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
I believe the plugin docs reflect what was bundled with the latest plugin release -- perhaps your recent changes were not released yet? Or has something gotten lost in the recent shuffle with dev/master branches? Its true, though, that for core plugins our registry links to the official apache

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
Ray, Yeah seems file plugin @c1a1052 was tagged for 1.1.0 release 13 days ago, you patched docs after that tag @abcaf70 12 days ago, and plugin was actually released with @e9efe65 7 days ago. You just missed the window narrowly! -Michal On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
.. which I guess raises the question, how can we make docs fixes without formal releases? Do we want that, or should we just make formal releases easier and more frequent until the problem goes away? On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Ray, Yeah seems file

Re: Docs for plugins

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
to do anything? Will it just be updated in the next plugin release? From: mmo...@google.com mmo...@google.com on behalf of Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:50 AM To: Michal Mocny Cc: dev Subject: Re: Docs

Re: [Android] Not so fast....API changes in Cordova-Android for Pluggable WebView

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey So, once again, we're dealing with some major API changes once we introduce pluggable webview. The first change that was done for sanity was finally deprecating setProperty. This was slated to be removed by 3.5 or

Re: Some pain points from our users :'(

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks for choosing a saner option than the wiki ;) On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Ray Camden rayca...@adobe.com wrote: Ok folks, here is the document. I even took a quick stab at an outline. I've set this as Anyone Can Edit, but if that causes problems I'll set it back to invited folks

Re: [Android] Not so fast....API changes in Cordova-Android for Pluggable WebView

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Hey So, once again, we're dealing with some major API changes once we

Re: [ios] plugin os version support

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
https://developer.apple.com/support/appstore/ iOS 6 = 2%. That meets the criteria we've used in the past.. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: With 3.4.0, the default template only supports iOS 6.0 and up. I know that plugins can specify iOS support (apple-ios

Re: [ios] plugin os version support

2014-04-30 Thread Michal Mocny
version, and Xcode version that has the iOS 5 SDK) On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: https://developer.apple.com/support/appstore/ iOS 6 = 2%. That meets the criteria we've used in the past.. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Shazron shaz

Re: Some pain points from our users :'(

2014-04-28 Thread Michal Mocny
I think this particular users' frustration is not addressable (and his feedback in places is just annoying: you work for X and I demand that you should have the money to do everything for me). He hasn't maintained his project for 2 years, hasn't read our docs, hasn't written tests to guard

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
for me than 7 hours later. Ian Thanks, -ningxin -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:45 AM To: dev Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring

Re: [JS] merging to master for cordova-js and cordova-plugman

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: TLDR; Ran a bunch of experiments tonight. I think this is too early to merge into master. We pointed out several issues in previous threads and seems they were ignored. Few quick comments from trying this: - cordova

Re: [JS] merging to master for cordova-js and cordova-plugman

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
to push with force). -Michal On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.orgwrote: TLDR; Ran a bunch of experiments tonight. I think this is too early to merge into master. We pointed out several

Re: [DISCUSS] Plugin master branches

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
, and not pull latest commit and instead pull down latest release r.0.4.0 from master. Or it's not worth? user can just do https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-inappbrowser@r.0.4.0; Yes, this. --Carlos On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM To: dev Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Notes: - native junit tests needs fixing (due to deprication) - common script for creating walk mobilespec - fix failing mobile spec tests (file-transfer?, media?) - who publishes the plugins, intel or cordova? - static vs dynamic xwalk lib - (option) one plugin, use hooks to download

Re: [JS] merging to master for cordova-js and cordova-plugman

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
in? On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: reverted the merge commits to plugman js. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Also Anis, would it please be possible to squash most of these commits into a few units of standalone

Re: What should it mean to +1 a release

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
This would get us into a pretty sweet world. One question: Between [DISCUSS] and [RELEASE] how do we make sure nothing slips in? Should DISCUSS include branching/tagging? Pointing at a CI result? Trust nothing changes? -Michal On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io

Re: [DISCUSS] Automate signed icla to git commits

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Yeah first thing that come to my mind was to just add it as part of the commit itself, so AUTHORS and/or COMMITTERS files. This means that we don't append anything with coho, we just do, git patch author - lookup in AUTHORS - get real name - lookup in apache list We could even make a git commit

Re: [DISCUSS] Automate signed icla to git commits

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Thats a decent plan. (But instead of LOC for threshold I'd do weighted hamming distance that puts little weight on whitespace and semicolons etc. ;) -Michal On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Andrew Grieve wrote: How about: trivial = 10 lines ||

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-25 Thread Michal Mocny
, let's not do the 4:00 PM meeting. This kinda sucks, but yeah, we should touch base sometime next week when we've moved forward a bit. Sorry for making people wait all day for this thing. I hope that you can salvage your evening! Joe On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: Coho Clean-up

2014-04-24 Thread Michal Mocny
From the description of nave: nave borrows concepts, inspiration, and code from Tim Caswell's nvm and Kris Kowal's sea programs. Nvm is also really nice, but has to be sourced rather than being run, and thus is a little bit wonky for some use cases. But it doesn't involve subshells, which makes it

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-04-24 Thread Michal Mocny
the current installed plugins into deps Just something to consider. (note, just tried it again and npm install --save doesn't actually do what I want.. wonder if its supported..) -Michal On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Gorkem, as an orthogonal issue

Re: [JS] merging to master for cordova-js and cordova-plugman

2014-04-24 Thread Michal Mocny
TLDR; Ran a bunch of experiments tonight. I think this is too early to merge into master. We pointed out several issues in previous threads and seems they were ignored. Few quick comments from trying this: - cordova-js is a new dependency of plugman, and needs to be npm linked to local dev

Re: Coho Clean-up

2014-04-24 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Yes, I will say that I was super impressed at how cleanly the code converted to co-routines. I had started down the road of promises and quickly determined it was infeasible. With co, 99% of the change was

Re: [Discuss] Release statusbar plugin

2014-04-24 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: Quick vote and release of 0.1.6? If the vote starts soon enough, it could get released early in the weekend. I'll admit that I didn't attempt to test this properly (it's not a plugin I use), and forgot that although

Re: [DISCUSS] Plugin master branches

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Also, it will only break new plugin installs. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: To be clear, this is just referring to Cordova CLI versions 3.0.0 - 3.0.4, I think. By version 3.0.5, CLI had a dependency on plugman 0.10.0, which included the

Re: Hooks

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
, and it should until we teach it to restore plugins from config.xml. Here is a change for --link-to / --copy-from to also link/copy merges and config.xml https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/169 does it look ok? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org

Re: Looking for input on syntax to use for specifying plugin deps in config.xml

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
:41 AM, Mark Koudritsky kam...@google.com wrote: I prefer the dependency syntax. It's shorter, more intuitive and consistent with plugin.xml. I don't see much value in _partial_ compliance with the w3c spec. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote

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