Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
On topic: Big +1 to Shaz, a perfect fit. Also, thank you Brian for your efforts over the years and your work bringing the project through incubation. Thank you also for taking the decision to pass the torch. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others'

Re: Looking for input on syntax to use for specifying plugin deps in config.xml

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
intuitive and consistent with plugin.xml. I don't see much value in _partial_ compliance with the w3c spec. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Gorkem is adding awesome feature to restore plugins/platforms your app depends on. There is some debate

Re: Setting android launchMode via CLI

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Comments inline in patch. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Does this exist on any other platform? If not, I'm cool with calling it androidLaunchMode. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote:

Re: Looking for input on syntax to use for specifying plugin deps in config.xml

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
, purplecabbage purplecabb...@gmail.comwrote: Can we see a mock version of what this all would like in either case? I also withdraw my previous +1 for feature/ after Michal's clarification. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Actually I don't think

Re: Looking for input on syntax to use for specifying plugin deps in config.xml

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
:58 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Gorkem has an initial implementation posted here: https://github.com/apache

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
is removed/moved/renamed, my app would explicitly try to install it when running cordova plugin restore. As a first version I think this is acceptable, but I think we may want a better solution eventually. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 22

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-23 Thread Michal Mocny
Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM To: dev Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to introduce everyone? Joe has been

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
I was recently trying to solve a problem with hooks: how do I require() cordova itself? (I was trying to call cordova plugin ls and ended up just writing my own crude inline implementation instead). If the hooks themselves are being require()-ed, does it simplify that problem? -Michal On Tue,

Re: Hooks

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
I was brainstorming about this a week ago. Specifically, there is also an issue to support git clone as the source for an application template, and that one gets tricky with the current way we link/copy. An app consists of (and we should import all of) the following: - www - config.xml - hooks -

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Mocny mmo

Looking for input on syntax to use for specifying plugin deps in config.xml

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
Gorkem is adding awesome feature to restore plugins/platforms your app depends on. There is some debate on the correct syntax to use in the config.xml file: do we use (a) plugin.xml style dependency tags, or (b) w3c widget spec feature tags? Gorkem votes (b), arguing that using widget spec helps

Re: CLI and cordova-lib design/extraction

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Few considerations that come to mind right away, but I have no opinions one way or the other yet. Pro's for Dumber CLI: - Easier to support liberal dependency versioning (aka, don't need weekly

Re: [iOS] Objective-C object binding to UIWebWiew's JavaScriptCore

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
Anyone have an app up on the ios app store that is willing to run a quick experiment? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: We would need to be careful -- including it as a bridge option might mean bundling the native support code with everyone's app

Re: [VOTE] Plugins Release

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
+1. Verified archives, extracted zips, installed all plugins for ios android, and ran at some plugin plugin tests for ios (but did not test every single plugin thoroughly). -Michal On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: +1. I verified signatures and

Re: [iOS] Objective-C object binding to UIWebWiew's JavaScriptCore

2014-04-22 Thread Michal Mocny
it behind a compile-time flag? Implement it as a plugin? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Anyone have an app up on the ios app store that is willing to run a quick experiment? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Ian Clelland

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-04-18 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Gorkem Ercan gorkem.er...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Took a quick glance. General questions: - why the need for save? Why not just alter the list on each cordova plugin add/rm? I do

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
No, thats great, I just didn't see it. Thanks! On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I added it as support under development in quicklinks. I can move it if you feel that is more appropriate. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michal Mocny mmo

Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos: - Git Tags - Atomic commits - Going back in time (checking out points in history) - Co-ordinating Pull Requests Also: - Expectations from external

Re: CLI tools dependency versioning

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
+1, though it does imply that cli and plugman continue to be released frequently, instead of rarely as was at some point considered. I think thats fine, and actually simplifies a lot of things conceptually (cordova version for users is == CLI version). On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Brian

Re: CLI and cordova-lib design/extraction

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
Few considerations that come to mind right away, but I have no opinions one way or the other yet. Pro's for Dumber CLI: - Easier to support liberal dependency versioning (aka, don't need weekly CLI releases as part of cordova-lib updates) - ..as part of liberal deps, it may make it easier to

Re: Hangout on 4/15 @ 4:00 EST

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
The link is attached to the email you replied to: http://youtu.be/5lR1a8V_po0 (works for me, at least.) On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Terence M. Bandoian tere...@tmbsw.comwrote: On 4/15/2014 3:07 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: View-only: http://youtu.be/5lR1a8V_po0 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at

Re: [GitHub] cordova-cli pull request: CB-6469 - Restore plugins from config.xm...

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
Took a quick glance. General questions: - why the need for save? Why not just alter the list on each cordova plugin add/rm? - wouldn't cordova plugin rm foo cordova prepare re-install that plugin right now? - why the name feature and not dependency ? I think this functionality should overlap

Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement

2014-04-17 Thread Michal Mocny
:07 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary: - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo. - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will use git magic to create two

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Okay okay, so who is going to update the website? On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: I think having a user@ can be created, but in practice no value add 1. users will not use it (for various reasons already mentioned in this thread) 2. committers

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Fantastic, thanks Steven. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I was just creating an issue and was about to do it :P On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Okay okay, so who is going to update the website

Re: should FileTransfer.download() auto mkdir target's path?

2014-04-16 Thread Michal Mocny
FileTransfer is supposed to be a dead simple helper, not a fundamental system api. So that suggests to me that we should prefer to auto-create. -Michal On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Mike Billau mike.bil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, When using FileTransfer.download(), if the target

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-16 Thread Michal Mocny
to the phonegap irc channel on the site. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Fantastic, thanks Steven. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I was just creating an issue and was about to do it :P

Re: ApacheCon recordings and slides

2014-04-16 Thread Michal Mocny
Andrew, your Contributor Story is too funny, and all too true. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: Good idea Mike I will start collecting On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: I really liked the slides, yes I

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
So first: we don't *have* have to have users@ list. This isn't about apache way at all, this is in response to several user inquiries asking for a user list to point them to. Seems no one is looking forward to more email, but I'd be satisfied to have a users@ list from which we direct people

Re: Sharing code between plugman and cordova-cli

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
thing. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Alright then, lets do 3+ npm packages: cordova (cli only), plugman (cli only), and cordova-lib (or something similarly named, TBD, suggestions?). As cordova-lib refactors to have some useful self

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
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Re: Change id.apache.org password

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Seems I did not have to do this after changing my password. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: We all had to do this thanks to 3 bleed. Just wanted to share a tip I needed to do to make git on osx work afterwards. You need to clear your cached

Re: support on phonegap/cordova?

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat| follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat From: Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org To: dev dev@cordova.apache.org Date: 04/15/2014 09:50 AM Subject: Re: support on phonegap/cordova? Sent by: mmo...@google.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Plugin release this week / early next

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
We should write a coho script for that (*ducks*). On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: A little bit of both :) Versions from coho foreach grep -o 'version=\.*\' plugin.xml | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 -r plugins Commit counts from coho foreach git log

Re: Sharing code between plugman and cordova-cli

2014-04-15 Thread Michal Mocny
I should have updated this email thread. That proposal is old news, Mark has done a writeup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit (I know you have commented on it already, but for others) On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Brian LeRoux

Re: Great writeup from Ray Camden on PG/Cordova

2014-04-14 Thread Michal Mocny
*planning* a survey, but this sounds interesting. Let me chew on this and create an initial doc. I'll share it here for folks to comment on and will then publish it. From: mmo...@google.com mmo...@google.com on behalf of Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org

Re: Great writeup from Ray Camden on PG/Cordova

2014-04-14 Thread Michal Mocny
David pointed out the link to the raw results file is in your original post! On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Also, you referenced complaints about File plugin. Discussed with Ian this morning that it may be great feedback to give him so he can

Re: Introducing myself

2014-04-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Hello Victor! On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Welcome Victor! You can find more goodies to get started on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorWorkflow On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Victor Sosa sosah.vic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello

Re: Sharing code between plugman and cordova-cli

2014-04-14 Thread Michal Mocny
Alright then, lets do 3+ npm packages: cordova (cli only), plugman (cli only), and cordova-lib (or something similarly named, TBD, suggestions?). As cordova-lib refactors to have some useful self-contained utils, we will move those to dedicated npm modules published separately. However, we are

Re: Great writeup from Ray Camden on PG/Cordova

2014-04-12 Thread Michal Mocny
Ray for putting this together! On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2014/4/11/Results-of-PhoneGap-Survey A few take-aways in there for us, I think.

Re: Hotfix policy?

2014-04-11 Thread Michal Mocny
It was in for weeks, unnoticed? I think we should fix that problem going forward. Regarding releases, we have weekly tooling releases these days, so if we patch the issue today it will be released fairly soon. Unfortunately we *just* released plugman, so it will take the full week. (though

Re: support on phonegap/cordova? ---- Request for Cordova User Group Mailing List

2014-04-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Not sure I would use the argument make users less aware of phonegap as a reason for this ;) but I agree that its a bit confusing for existing users of cordova core to be directed to phonegap support (see timely reply to the original thread from another user). I much prefer directing user

Re: Sharing code between plugman and cordova-cli

2014-04-11 Thread Michal Mocny
LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I want more repos not less! I'd love for us to break the functionality up into a tonne of smaller utility repos. Ideally every module is in a discreet git repo, separately versioned, and dependencies are managed with npm. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Michal

Great writeup from Ray Camden on PG/Cordova

2014-04-11 Thread Michal Mocny
http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2014/4/11/Results-of-PhoneGap-Survey A few take-aways in there for us, I think.

Re: Ship stage.plugins.cordova.io

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
wrote: I have pushed the site live now! Woo hoo! The site looks great (And with hours to spare before ApacheCon ;) ) Ian On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Much better. Search is still weird though. It's somewhat fuzzy

Re: Ship stage.plugins.cordova.io

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
e.g. http://plugins.cordova.io/#/package/org.apache.cordova.vibration On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Just noticed, our plugin README.md docs link to doc/index.md using relative links, which don't work when displayed from the plugin repo website

Re: [VOTE] cordova-cli@3.4.1-0.1.0

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Poor Ian, a second too late. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: The vote has now closed! The results are: Positive binding votes: 3 Steven Gill Shazron Abdullah Andrew Grieve The vote has passed On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Andrew Grieve

Re: [cordova-js] do we need clobbers/, merges/ ?

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Alright, this thread is starting to run away, I think. We have a G+ Hangout scheduled for next week. This looks like a great topic to discuss. Generally, I think we should resolve these disputes the only way that makes real sense: produce a set of test cases that work today and that we want to

Re: Just saying Hi

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Hello Max! Glad to see you drop in. I've tried out your stuff a bit, and have been showing off your demos (Is the Weather demo fixed yet?!). I'm even tinkering with wrapping our cordova test suite in ionic (but am concerned about platform support, investigating graceful fallback options -- any

Re: Ship stage.plugins.cordova.io

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
. That was the idea for a quick short term fix. I'm going to be reviewing Michael's proposal about rendering doc/en/index if it exists, followed by doc/index and then just the readme. On Apr 10, 2014 7:36 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: e.g. http://plugins.cordova.io/#/package

Re: [cordova-js] do we need clobbers/, merges/ ?

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Alright, this thread is starting to run away, I think. We have a G+ Hangout scheduled for next week. This looks like a great topic to discuss

Re: Just saying Hi

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
for us as soon as we made it obvious what should be generated. Max On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Hello Max! Glad to see you drop in. I've tried out your stuff a bit, and have been showing off your demos (Is the Weather demo fixed yet

Re: Just saying Hi

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Max Lynch m...@drifty.com wrote: Yep, we fixed the weather demo: https://github.com/driftyco/ionic-weather For the cli tool, I definitely agree it's not optimal. The reason we went

Re: [cordova-cli] Versioning Confusion

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
We've mumbled about this before here, so +1 to your proposal. However, Andrew previously pointed out that even if we stop doing a.b.c reset with releases, the form x.y.z-a.b.c is not valid semver and so isn't generally useful anyway. At least not for package.json fuzzy dependency versioning. I

Re: Sharing code between plugman and cordova-cli

2014-04-10 Thread Michal Mocny
The overhead of a third repo scares me. I'm fine with merging into a single repo, but I'll throw a third option into the mix: - Leave the plugman repo, and leave the plugman binary in there, but refactor to make plugman depend on cordova-cli, and forward all functionality to cli implementations.

Re: engines and plugins on config.xml

2014-04-09 Thread Michal Mocny
This would be a great contribution. We should consider using the dependency tag for plugins, which I think maps well to existing specifications for urls and versions. For platforms, I'm fine with engine, though I don't like tieing to specific versions by default. I think we should support it,

Re: engines and plugins on config.xml

2014-04-09 Thread Michal Mocny
(we should also support --searchpath for cordova create) On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: This would be a great contribution. We should consider using the dependency tag for plugins, which I think maps well to existing specifications for urls

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-04-08 Thread Michal Mocny
support the CLI at all, but it should be there with the old flow. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and way busy. Will be back in a week. Super excited about this, though.) -Michal On Mon

Re: Suggestions for a problem

2014-04-08 Thread Michal Mocny
with the previous statement that tooling versions match CLI deps? [1] https://twitter.com/PhoneGapBuild/status/453271589803405313 -- Gorkem On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Tools Release + cordova-ios 3.4.1 blog post proofread

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: New versions of `plugman`, `cordova` and `cordova-ios` are now live! * [plugman@0.20.2](https://www.npmjs.org/package/plugman) * [cordova@3.4.0-0.1.3](https://www.npmjs.org/package/cordova) *

Re: [VOTE] cordova-plugman@0.21.0

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Mocny
+1. (I noticed for format of sha and md5 files changed (coho patch to strip weird pgp formatting), but the format now doesn't match either sha512sum or pgp CLI tools. The contents do match so its fine) On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: +1, plugman

Re: [VOTE] Cordova-ios@3.4.1

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Mocny
+1 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: +1 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Please review and vote on the release of cordova-ios. cordova-ios@3.4.1 has been published here:

Re: Suggestions for a problem

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: If needed (looks like it is), we should have a highly specific tool (does one thing only) that can generate this map automatically. If the data is Is that a stab at coho? ;) lacking to do this automatically, my suggestion is

Re: Suggestions for a problem

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like you will have to generate this yourself for now. But correct me if I'm wrong, if the CLI is at version X.Y.Z, wouldn't the platform versions be at least X.Y.Z themselves? At least for the main platforms I don't think

Re: [cordova-js] What is the purpose of runs / ?

2014-04-04 Thread Michal Mocny
gfind -name plugin.xml -exec grep -Hn runs {} \; ./cordova-plugin-battery-status/plugin.xml:90:runs/ ./cordova-plugin-camera/plugin.xml:37: runs / ./cordova-plugin-contacts/plugin.xml:159:runs / ./cordova-plugin-device/plugin.xml:29:runs /

Re: [cordova-js] do we need clobbers/, merges/ ?

2014-04-04 Thread Michal Mocny
As commented in another thread, these are super useful, but I see some hope to replacing them with a library instead of tooling support. We would still need to run these automatically on startup somehow. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: and I mean the

Re: Git push broken?

2014-04-03 Thread Michal Mocny
For the record, Ian also found that Igor said echo on our list before :) Its the most interesting Hello I've ever heard before. (and then heard again, slightly delayed, in a softer tone) On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I frequently use the

Re: About cordova js

2014-04-03 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, this is a huge refactor, but its also a step in the right direction. In order for this to mainline though we need everyone to buy into the

Re: About cordova js

2014-04-03 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: So, this is a huge refactor, but its also a step in the right direction

Re: About cordova js

2014-04-03 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote

Re: iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value

2014-04-02 Thread Michal Mocny
a lot of sense. Should we progress on this with Jira item and a pull request? -sdobrev 2014-03-31 17:17 GMT+03:00 Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org: Background: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1561 Back when we split the storage location into three options, there were vocal

Re: iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value

2014-03-31 Thread Michal Mocny
Background: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1561 Back when we split the storage location into three options, there were vocal users that claimed that WebSQL was being used to store user data and should be backed up to cloud. Many apps were not rejected with this setting, not sure if

Re: Looking at the new File API pragmatically

2014-03-31 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: The new File plugin has been in the wild now for almost two months now, and it seems to be seeing a lot of real-world use (bug reports are coming in to JIRA almost daily :) ) There have been a lot of bugs fixed, and a

Re: Looking at the new File API pragmatically

2014-03-31 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.orgwrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: This is ugly, though, and is going to get worse over time

Re: Consolidating the Distribution of Platforms Plugins

2014-03-28 Thread Michal Mocny
I like the idea of hosting on npm just to simplify hosting/downloads, but still using our own tools for dependency / version management. New question: if we host plugins on npm, how can we simplify the plugin registry? Can we: (a) fork https://github.com/npm/npm-www (b) adopt a strategy like

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 3.5.0

2014-03-28 Thread Michal Mocny
when it comes time to release the other platforms, especially if there are subsequent changes to cordova-js and/or cordova-ios. I don't like moving tags. So +1 to Michal's question. On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@google.com wrote: Before I even

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 3.5.0

2014-03-27 Thread Michal Mocny
. I don't feel Android needs a new release yet, but I've been working on an experimental branch for a bit, so I'm not 100% sure. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Feels like we

Re: plugin not in registry search (org.chromium.identity) but it's there

2014-03-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Lindsey, the Registry is going through a transformation right now, anyway. I think we would all agree that searches should use at least some form of wildcard, but lets not worry about fixing this in the current one. -Michal On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Lindsey Simon els...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines

2014-03-17 Thread Michal Mocny
, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-android First patch they landed, which claims to have min viable xwalk webview: https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-android/commit

Re: Releasing Platforms Independently

2014-03-17 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: +1. especially for moving testing away from the mobile-spec monolith. Recently I discovered a bug https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6225that caused some pain for users. Since it was all tested in mobile-spec and it

Re: Release Managers

2014-03-13 Thread Michal Mocny
+1, like the idea of putting your name into a hat. How about coaching the first time someone does a release? Do we prefer to let the docs stand for themselves? -Michal On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: I'd previously brought up the idea of Release

Re: Releasing Platforms Independently

2014-03-13 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: I think it would be beneficial if we could release updates to platforms independent from others. Why? - Far easier to do one-off platform releases (e.g. quick turn-around on a security update, quick turn around on iOS

Re: Explicitly added plugin gets deleted as dependent of other plugin

2014-03-12 Thread Michal Mocny
If its dependant is removed, it will stop working anyway -- so why is it a bug to remove it? I think we should warn when this happens (if it happens silently, thats bad experience), or better yet prompt for input to confirm removal, but I'm not sure what it would mean to just leave pluginA

Re: Explicitly added plugin gets deleted as dependent of other plugin

2014-03-12 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: If its dependant is removed, it will stop working anyway -- so why is it a bug to remove it? I think we should warn when this happens (if it happens silently, thats bad experience), or better yet prompt for input to confirm

Re: [GitHub] cordova-android pull request: Added Log.e when Config is not initi...

2014-03-12 Thread Michal Mocny
If you want to unsub only from github notifications (I know, these are frequent), you cannot directly do this, but just create a local inbox filter for mail incoming from g...@git.apache.org. For example, in gmail, I have two filters: Marked as Cordova: !from:g...@git.apache.org

Re: UX / UI: New Splash Screens Icons

2014-03-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Idea: use one set to replace our default hello world, and another set to replace mobile-spec. I have a bunch of small sample apps on my phone, and can never locate mobile spec ;) On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.orgwrote: They look really good! Thanks for

Re: [cordova-plugins/statusbar] Publishing as core

2014-03-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Bond-Caron jbo...@gdesolutions.com wrote: On Mon Mar 10 12:51 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: I think we can solve that problem using a plethora of better alternatives, including install scripts (perhaps with a generator like yeoman, perhaps my just pasting snippets in tutorials

Re: [VOTE] Cordova 2.9.0

2014-03-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Steve, may you call these votes and finish the process, or would you like someone else give it a go? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: +1 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, James Jong wjamesj...@gmail.com wrote: +1 -James Jong On Feb 26, 2014

Re: [cordova-plugins/statusbar] Publishing as core

2014-03-10 Thread Michal Mocny
to it being under the labs namespace. After talking to the Adobe team, we could also host the plugin under the PhoneGap Github org, but I'd rather use that as a last resort. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: (a) Yes. (b

Re: [GitHub] cordova-plugin-file-transfer pull request: Upload progress needs t...

2014-03-09 Thread Michal Mocny
GitHub Integration!! Huzzah! On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM, mhujer g...@git.apache.org wrote: GitHub user mhujer opened a pull request: https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-file-transfer/pull/23 Upload progress needs to be fixed for second file Sent bytes must be

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-03-06 Thread Michal Mocny
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Bond-Caron jbo...@gdesolutions.com wrote: On Wed Mar 5 04:13 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: For cli workflow: hooks (including plugin hooks) can access config.xml preference's for things like the sqllite compile example (recompile only if settings

Re: Publishing plugins in cordova-plugins

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
We discussed this at the Face to Face yesterday (maybe that prompted this mail?). I'm +1 for statusbar (as was everyone), but I'm -0 on keyboard (won't block it, but I don't like it), since its really buggy as-is, and its benefits come with real tradeoffs. Additionally, I don't think is enough

Re: broken org.apache.cordova.inappbrowser

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks for this, but seems Andrew got to it with a different patch already (renamed the file to lower case). Probably we want to re-publish? On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Maxim Ermilov maxim.ermi...@canonical.comwrote: Hello, commit 39e64c988afb38a081fae7e3d71d18424a3cfbf4 broke plugin (

Re: [Input request] Rethinking Plugin docs

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
How does that work with proposal for i18n? Ideally the docs/ tree is identical in each language, so I think we want the top level docs (README.md or index.md) to be in the docs/en/ tree as well. Perhaps we leave the README.md empty and change plugman publish to bundle docs/en/index.md instead?

Re: What is cordova-coho for?

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
Sounds Great. Note, I think that we should all be free to manage our development environment however way we want, and so should not have to use coho (or any other opinionated tool). However, in the interests of release automation, I think its very valuable to have a single consistent opinionated

Re: [Vote] cordova-plugin-inappbrowser@0.3.3

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
+1 However, gpg --verify gives me: gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. I don't recall seeing this before. I had to add your new key to verify this time. -Michal On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at

Re: [Input request] Rethinking Plugin docs

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
it I think. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: How does that work with proposal for i18n? Ideally the docs/ tree is identical in each language, so I think we want the top level docs (README.md or index.md) to be in the docs/en/ tree as well. Perhaps

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Agree w/ your points Jesse. I'm going to reach out to Maven folks to find out what they've done wrt to publishing policy. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Agree w/ your points Jesse. I'm going to reach out to Maven folks to find out what they've done wrt to publishing policy. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I am a no to passing arguments,

Re: Proposal: hooks support for plugins

2014-03-05 Thread Michal Mocny
For cli workflow: hooks (including plugin hooks) can access config.xml preference's for things like the sqllite compile example (recompile only if settings changed would be nice), and access preference at runtime for the console example. For old workflow, perhaps sqllite is documented to manually

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