On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> 2) Although we support Windows as a target, the current state of both CouchDB
> and Erlang make it impossible for certain operations to succeed. Most notably
> compaction (a feature that can be faked with local replication) and the quick
> su
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
>
> On the other hand though, I *do* see that being able to specify the data
> directory would be a nice feature - but not a critical one that will impact
> couchdb adoption on Windows. Are there other directories you are concerned
> about?
>
I could not disagree more about packaging Erlang. I do not know any windows
developers who already have Erlang installed!
Most users of CouchDB, certainly on Windows, will not have used Erlang
before coming to CouchDB. Suggesting that packaging the Erlang binaries
with the installer will decreas
I tend to agree with you on this. If, for example, you look at Eclipse you can
see it's capable of using multiple versions of Java that might be installed on
the same box. Many installers bundle their own JRE precisely to insure they get
things right. However, the current level of Erlang and Cou
Just to follow up on a bit of this:
On 1/04/2010 10:09 PM, Carl McDade wrote:
Wampserver, Xammp etc. But it does not appear to do this yet. So while YAWS,
Ejabbard and other software would be running on single instance of Erlang.
guaranteeing use of single version, CouchDB might be running on a
On 1/04/2010 10:09 PM, Carl McDade wrote:
I am going from my experiences in working with Windows 2003 Server as a
dev platform. Maybe for a hobbyist or first time user there would be no
problem. But most Windows users frequently install Java, Ruby, PHP and
Python in seperate directories under Pro
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 1/04/2010 8:17 PM, Carl McDade wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been trying to use the Windows binaries of CouchDB but find that
>> the
>> installer creates issues that never get mentioned. The first concern and
>> one
>> that should be fixe
On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:56, Carl McDade wrote:
> Jan,
>
> Can you point me to the correct source code repository for the installer?
http://couchdb.apache.org/community/code.html
There is are git mirrors on http://git.apache.org and
http://github.com/apache/couchdb
Cheers
Jan
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>
> Carl
>
>
Jan,
Can you point me to the correct source code repository for the installer?
Carl
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>
> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:28, Carl McDade wrote:
>
> > Sorry,
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I don't think there should be any Official
> Release
> > of the
On 1/04/2010 8:17 PM, Carl McDade wrote:
Hello,
I have been trying to use the Windows binaries of CouchDB but find that the
installer creates issues that never get mentioned. The first concern and one
that should be fixed is the distribution and linking of the Erlang binaries
in the install. The
On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:28, Carl McDade wrote:
> Sorry,
>
> I forgot to mention that I don't think there should be any Official Release
> of the installer until these issues are fixed. Seperating out some of the
> parts like the erlang binaries would also remove some of the legal headache
> involve
Sorry,
I forgot to mention that I don't think there should be any Official Release
of the installer until these issues are fixed. Seperating out some of the
parts like the erlang binaries would also remove some of the legal headache
involved in the distribution for Windows. In other words while th
Hi Carl,
excellent points. Do you mind opening issues for these points on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB so we don't lose
track?
If you have patches to fix said issues, that's even better :)
Cheers
Jan
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On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:17, Carl McDade wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been try
Hello,
I have been trying to use the Windows binaries of CouchDB but find that the
installer creates issues that never get mentioned. The first concern and one
that should be fixed is the distribution and linking of the Erlang binaries
in the install. There should always be an option to use the Er
On 31 Mar 2010, at 22:36, Mark Hammond wrote:
> *sigh* - only a few messages ago in this thread you said:
>
> > If you're happy preparing the binary, I am happy to call a vote on it.
>
> I did my end of the bargain, so would it be possible for you to do yours?
No.
I know nothing about them, h
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we have three separate issues that are all entangled in a little mess:
>
> 1) Supporting Windows.
> 2) Making all tests pass on Windows.
> 3) Making an official CouchDB binary release for Windows.
> 3.1) Legal issues with sa
On 31/03/2010 11:29 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
On 31 Mar 2010, at 13:03, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
Action plan. Here's what I say we should do:
- Vote on Mark's installer for 0.11.0; on success, release it.
- Add big fat warning about the limitations to the downloads page.
- Commit COUCHDB-86 t
On 31 Mar 2010, at 13:03, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> Action plan. Here's what I say we should do:
>
> - Vote on Mark's installer for 0.11.0; on success, release it.
>- Add big fat warning about the limitations to the downloads page.
> - Commit COUCHDB-86 to trunk and 0.11.x (after review).
> -
Hi,
I think we have three separate issues that are all entangled in a little mess:
1) Supporting Windows.
2) Making all tests pass on Windows.
3) Making an official CouchDB binary release for Windows.
3.1) Legal issues with said binary release.
1) The 0.11.x tree and the 0.11.0 treat Windows
(Sending again to keep the thread alive, sorry for the mis-reply)
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Okay, I did some research and came across
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
Our dependencies are:
- Erlang, http://erlang.org/ License EPL:
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/erlang/EPLICENSE
- Spidermonkey, M
On 31/03/2010 10:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
I'm on it.
Mark, aside from Erlang, Spidermonkey and ICU, are there any other
pieces in the installer, like Windows dev-tools/libs?
libcurl is still in the build instructions even though I'm not sure it
is currently used. The MS C runtime libraries
I'm on it.
Mark, aside from Erlang, Spidermonkey and ICU, are there any other pieces in
the installer, like Windows dev-tools/libs?
Cheers
Jan
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On 31 Mar 2010, at 13:00, Noah Slater wrote:
>
> On 31 Mar 2010, at 02:03, Mark Hammond wrote:
>
>> Great - it can be found at http://people.apa
On 31 Mar 2010, at 02:03, Mark Hammond wrote:
> Great - it can be found at http://people.apache.org/~mhammond/dist/0.11.0/
Would you like to call the vote on this yourself? If you prepared the Windows
artefacts, and called the vote, that should remove the dependancy chain between
me and you -
Thank's Mark! Much appreciated.
/Per
31 mar 2010 kl. 03.03 skrev Mark Hammond:
> Great - it can be found at http://people.apache.org/~mhammond/dist/0.11.0/
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 30/03/2010 5:00 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Mar 2010, at 01:58, Mark Hammond wrote:
>>
>>> I understand that - however, the Windows issues are well known,
>>> have existed forever and has never before been raised as a blocker
>>> for
On 30/03/2010 5:00 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 01:58, Mark Hammond wrote:
I understand that - however, the Windows issues are well known,
have existed forever and has never before been raised as a blocker
for a windows binary. If I knew it would be considered as such I
would not
On 30 Mar 2010, at 01:58, Mark Hammond wrote:
> I understand that - however, the Windows issues are well known, have existed
> forever and has never before been raised as a blocker for a windows binary.
> If I knew it would be considered as such I would not have invested any
> further efforts
On 30/03/2010 10:45 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 00:42, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
Now since windows support will require a patch to 0.11.0, I'd
propose to call the windows release 0.11.1 that we ship along with
a source release.
I'm not sure "require" is really the correct word here -
On 30/03/2010 10:44 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2010, at 00:15, Mark Hammond wrote:
* The test suite does not pass on Windows due to issues compacting
and deleting databases and views. There was a suggestion we can't
have an "official" release where the tests fail. While a fix for
this
On 30 Mar 2010, at 00:42, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> Now since windows support will require a patch to 0.11.0, I'd propose to call
> the windows release 0.11.1 that we ship along with a source release.
What patch does it require?
On 30 Mar 2010, at 00:15, Mark Hammond wrote:
> * The test suite does not pass on Windows due to issues compacting and
> deleting databases and views. There was a suggestion we can't have an
> "official" release where the tests fail. While a fix for this is in the
> pipeline, it isn't in 0.1
On 29 Mar 2010, at 16:15, Mark Hammond wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Chatting on IRC with a few devs, the following issues were (belatedly) raised
> regarding Windows support for couchdb - specifically, the lack of a couchdb
> 0.11 release for Windows.
>
> * The test suite does not pass on Windows due
Hi all,
Chatting on IRC with a few devs, the following issues were
(belatedly) raised regarding Windows support for couchdb - specifically,
the lack of a couchdb 0.11 release for Windows.
* The test suite does not pass on Windows due to issues compacting and
deleting databases and views.
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