Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Randall Leeds
Is there any way we can tell whether or not it uses CouchDB? Obviously, if not, we should remove it. Otherwise, I'd be tempted to say leave it. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:59, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:11:22PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote: gpirate is a

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/01/2009, at 6:12 AM, Noah Slater wrote: If you want to use CouchDB to build your porn empire, all power to you -- but I think that expecting a link from our wiki is a little too much to ask. Why? It's a page about apps using CouchDB, not a moral statement by a group of developers.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Antony Blakey antony.bla...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/01/2009, at 6:12 AM, Noah Slater wrote: If you want to use CouchDB to build your porn empire, all power to you -- but I think that expecting a link from our wiki is a little too much to ask. Why? It's a

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
Antony, Thanks for your explanation, and for highlighting the problems associated with moral arbitration. I can see what you're trying to say. However, I think you slightly misunderstood my email, I wrote: I can think of the following problematic areas: I was not suggesting that all of the

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Dean Landolt
Personally, I'd like to see some porn site links on that page. Porn sites have particular operation/traffic requirements, and if I saw that CouchDB was suitable for that, I'd be more comfortable about building a media server on CouchDB. Ha. You know what they say about the porn industry

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread lenz
hi, interesting discussion with two entirely different angles of view. i did ISP work and know about the pain filtering/censoring/how-ever-you-call-it causes if you have to treat a large amount of customers and can not afford to be liable for your actions (or missing actions). from that point of

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Michael McDaniel
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 09:30:58AM +1030, Antony Blakey wrote: On 23/01/2009, at 9:15 AM, Noah Slater wrote: I think that the links and content on our website should aim to be family friendly and work safe, as vague as that may be. I wasn't proposing a set of hard and fast rules for

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Chris Anderson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Michael McDaniel couc...@autosys.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 09:30:58AM +1030, Antony Blakey wrote: On 23/01/2009, at 9:15 AM, Noah Slater wrote: I think that the links and content on our website should aim to be family friendly and work safe, as vague

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/01/2009, at 9:40 AM, lenz wrote: the situation here is different, it is a product page and it is actively edited by the community. after all it is a public wiki. if someone thinks that it is not right, change it, cut out the link part and just leave the wording, make a note, delete

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: My concerns do not apply to Google because they frame their website and purpose differently. When you visit Google you're not prompted or reminded about opportunities for copyright infringement. Well, gipirate is a

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:16:31AM +1030, Antony Blakey wrote: Before long you have to ban some people from editing, and that is the equivalent of making a moral judgement. The system I proposed acknowledges that judgement is required, but shifts the domain from morals to a technical

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/01/2009, at 12:31 PM, Dean Landolt wrote: The issue with gipirate starts with the name. The name says 'theft'. If it was called gitorrents or gitorrensearch, then maybe your argument could be taken seriously. You wouldn't quibble over a site called giporn being about porn, even if

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 08:37:15PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: My concerns do not apply to Google because they frame their website and purpose differently. When you visit Google you're not prompted or reminded about

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: GPirate frames itself as a website for copyright infringement. It conceptually, and literally, invites you to infringe copyright. Several of the links on the home page are direct links to copyright infringing trackers.

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:53:41PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote: Err no, those are links that link to other bittorrent search engine, try a search. Again, just like a google search. Anyway, this thread is totally OT so let's leave it at that. I chose a random featured link from the front page:

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/01/2009, at 1:16 PM, Noah Slater wrote: I like relativism, but I try to avoid the nihilistic or laissez-fair tendencies of naïve relativism. I'm a moral absolutist. But I don't regard that many things as moral questions worthy of judgement, at least not compared to the universe

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Antony Blakey
On 23/01/2009, at 1:34 PM, Noah Slater wrote: Imagine a disgruntled DBA who decides that he's going to setup CouchDB Sucks and from that site he's doing to create one new website per day, each one using a subdomain and listing a new reason why CouchDB does, in fact, suck. Because he's

Re: [Couchdb Wiki] Update of CouchDB in the wild by blackmagic rue

2009-01-22 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: http://gpirate.com/s?src=featuredq=Lost%20S05E01%20%0D What is this if not directing me to copyright infringement? I said I'd leave it at that but anyway... this is a link to an html page, please give me any link to an