[DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi! In the last 2 months I did a few conference talks and smaller presentations (OpenBlend, W-JAX, ..) and always got the same questions: "it's only a 0.x version, so is it already stable? I don't like to use it in production with 0.x" And the actual answer is: "well, core, cdictrl, etc are sta

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Jason Porter
I was okay moving to 1.0 with 0.5. +1 for moving to 1.0 now. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi! > > In the last 2 months I did a few conference talks and smaller > presentations (OpenBlend, W-JAX, ..) and always got the same questions: > "it's only a 0.x version, so i

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread John D. Ament
Yep, agreed. Users care about the version #. I would recommend that if we could release a 1.0 based on the current code base + some additional bug fixes we'll get huge wins. +1 to switching current to 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi! > > In the las

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Charles Moulliard
+1 to move to 1.0. We have done the same thing with Apache Aries moving Blueprint from 0.5 to 1.0 release On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Yep, agreed. Users care about the version #. I would recommend that if we > could release a 1.0 based on the current code base + som

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Mark Struberg
n progress LieGrue, strub - Original Message - > From: Charles Moulliard > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > Cc: Mark Struberg > Sent: Monday, 11 November 2013, 18:25 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > +1 to move to 1.0. We have done the same

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
; - Original Message - > > From: Charles Moulliard > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > Cc: Mark Struberg > > Sent: Monday, 11 November 2013, 18:25 > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > +1 to move to 1.0. We have done the same

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Mark Struberg
don't like to name). LieGrue, strub > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau >To: Mark Struberg ; dev@deltaspike.apache.org >Sent: Monday, 11 November 2013, 20:54 >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > >Well

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-11 Thread Gerhard Petracek
e to name). > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > > > > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau > >To: Mark Struberg ; dev@deltaspike.apache.org > >Sent: Monday, 11 November 2013, 20:54 > >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Pete Muir
s seen on a few other >> projects I don't like to name). >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> >> >> >> >>> ____ >>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau >>> To: Mark Struberg ; dev@deltaspike.apache.org >>> Sent: Monday,

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread John D. Ament
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Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Mark Struberg
: Pete Muir >To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org >Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 14:35 >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > >+1 to Gerhard’s point (I am looking to try to find someone to help with docs, >but the person I had in mind just left Red Hat :-(

RE: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Nathan Dennis
[mailto:strub...@yahoo.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:34 AM To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? Pete, Gerhard The Problem here is that there are only 2 ways to handle the situation: 1.) all modules share the same version but have different maturity

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+1 for v1. If we don't go back (= we don't make unstable stable modules) it is enough IMO

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Gerhard Petracek
t gets much > more complicated with later modules. > > Thus I prefer 1.). > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > > > > From: Pete Muir > >To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > >Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 14:35 > >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Mark Struberg
t; Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 16:18 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > @mark: > i never said that we should do #2. > > regards, > gerhard > > > > > 2013/11/12 Mark Struberg > >> Pete, Gerhard >&g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Gerhard Petracek
ue, > strub > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Gerhard Petracek > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 16:18 > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > @mark: &g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Thomas Andraschko
--- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gerhard Petracek > > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 16:18 > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > > > @mark: > &g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-12 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
gt; > > > The problem is that it's not only about the JSF module but about all > > other > > > modules as well. > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-13 Thread Pete Muir
>> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 14:35 >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? >> >> >> +1 to Gerhard’s point (I am looking to try to find someone to help with >> docs, but the person I had in mind

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-13 Thread Cody Lerum
cated with later modules. > > > > Thus I prefer 1.). > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > > > > > > >> ____________ > >> From: Pete Muir > >> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 201

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-13 Thread Thomas Andraschko
). > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> From: Pete Muir > > >> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 No

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-14 Thread Mark Struberg
at happened with exactly this >> > approach in Seam3? The problem is that users do not know which version > of >> > ds-jsf-api works together with which version of ds-core-impl for > example. >> > It gets much more complicated with later modules. >> > &g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-14 Thread Charles Moulliard
> From: Thomas Andraschko > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013, 23:51 > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > @Romain: > > I understand all your concerns - really! > > But from

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-14 Thread Gerhard Petracek
> > > - Original Message - > > From: Thomas Andraschko > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013, 23:51 > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > @Romain: > > I u

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-14 Thread Thomas Andraschko
-- > > > From: Thomas Andraschko > > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013, 23:51 > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > > > > > @Romain: > > > I understan

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-14 Thread Gerhard Petracek
t; > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Thomas Andraschko > > > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013, 23:51 > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-11-15 Thread Christian Kaltepoth
> > > - Original Message - > > > From: Charles Moulliard > > > To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > > > Cc: Mark Struberg > > > Sent: Monday, 11 November 2013, 18:25 > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2013-12-14 Thread Karl Kildén
gt; > needs a few features / ready but might change it's api still / work in > > > progress > > > > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Ove Ranheim
well. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Gerhard Petracek >> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 16:18 >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0? >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Thomas Andraschko
> > strub > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > >> From: Gerhard Petracek > >> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 16:18 > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] next release v

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> >> 1.x > >>> reflects maturity. But you know what happened with exactly this > approach in > >>> Seam3? The problem is that users do not know which version of > ds-jsf-api > >>> works together with which version of ds-core-impl for example. It g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Mark Struberg
gt;> >> On 12. nov. 2013, at 16:28, Mark Struberg wrote: >> >> > yea, but what are the alternatives? >> > If you have a better idea, then tell us :) >> > >> > The problem is that it's not only about the JSF module but about all >> other modules as well. >> > &g

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerhard Petracek
; >> >> > >> >> regards, > >> >> gerhard > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2013/11/12 Mark Struberg > >> >> > >> >>> Pet

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Thomas Andraschko
> > >> 15 months ago DS was proposed to be incubated. IMHO, if DS is going to > > be > > >> a success, regular releases is a key factor. > > >> > > >> It's been five months since last 0.5 release. > > >> > > >&

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Ove Ranheim
ed. IMHO, if DS is going to be >>> a success, regular releases is a key factor. >>> >>> It's been five months since last 0.5 release. >>> >>> regards, >>> ove >>> >>> >>> On 12. nov. 2013, at 16:28, Mark Stru

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerhard Petracek
; >>> Would it make sense to elect on some big tickets to get 0.6 out? > >>> > >>> 15 months ago DS was proposed to be incubated. IMHO, if DS is going to > be > >>> a success, regular releases is a key factor. > >>> > >>&

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Ove Ranheim
xing it looks like 14 >>>>> issues should be moved to 0.7. >>>>> 16 issues are real issues that needs to be decided upon. >>>>> >>>>> Would it make sense to elect on some big tickets to get 0.6 out? >>>>> &

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Thomas Andraschko
+1 Ove We are really late for an 0.6. I would release 0.6 this/next month and after that, lets finish 1.0. We should fix all open issues and finish the documentation!

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi ove, i was only talking about the commits. regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - JavaEE Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2014-02-16 22:07 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko : > +1 Ove > We are really l

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Ove Ranheim
The commit graph shows too few committers.. and I appreciate your work! I also notice too few Redhat/JBoss Weld/Seam committers left on the project. How come? /ove On 16. feb. 2014, at 22:10, Gerhard Petracek wrote: > hi ove, > > i was only talking about the commits. > > regards, > gerhard

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Jason Porter
Probably because we've become busy with some other projects and priorities :(— Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ove Ranheim wrote: > The commit graph shows too few committers.. and I appreciate your work! > I also notice too few Redhat/JBoss Weld/Seam committers lef

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-16 Thread Ove Ranheim
That’s reasonable enough. On 16. feb. 2014, at 23:02, Jason Porter wrote: > Probably because we've become busy with some other projects and priorities :(— > Sent from Mailbox for iPhone > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ove Ranheim wrote: > >> The commit graph shows too few committers.. an

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Mark Struberg
back 2 the topic, please! I'd say we should approach 1.0 NOW. DeltaSpike core and a few other modules is really rock solid already since a year or so. It is also used heavily in production already. There will always be some modules which are not so perfectly mature at times. E.g. if we will ad

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Thomas Andraschko
IMHO ViewAccessScoped is a showstopper for the JSF users. Many people used CODI just because of it! But to be honest, if i will do it, it takes propably 2-4 weeks. I have currently only time at weekend... and i'm note sure if i know all details of the implementation ;) 2014-02-17 9:57 GMT+01:00

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi can we wait 1 or 2 weeks (no more) to see if we can sort out @Repo/@Tx stuff? Basically I'm waiting after it for months and this is blocker to be used ATM. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: h

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Mark Struberg
Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please fix the Tx stuff. In that case I'd say we gonna ship a 0.6 and then in 3 weeks move to 1.0. wdyt? LieGrue, strub On Monday, 17 February 2014, 10:06, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi > > >can we wait 1 or 2 weeks (no mo

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
+1 for this Documentation and examples are never complete but with that in mind one should not stop improving them "because they are never complete anyway" ;-) On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please fix >

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Ove Ranheim
+1 for this :) 2014-02-17 10:10 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg : > Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please fix > the Tx stuff. > > In that case I'd say we gonna ship a 0.6 and then in 3 weeks move to 1.0. > > wdyt? > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > > On Monday, 17 February

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Thomas Andraschko
+1 Mark 2014-02-17 13:08 GMT+01:00 Ove Ranheim : > +1 for this :) > > > 2014-02-17 10:10 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg : > > > Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please > fix > > the Tx stuff. > > > > In that case I'd say we gonna ship a 0.6 and then in 3 weeks move to 1.

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
Mark, Dunno for the one week delay for 0.6 and 3 weeks delay for 1.0, but +1 to go with an intermediate step (ie. 0.6). JLouis 2014-02-17 13:14 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko : > +1 Mark > > > > 2014-02-17 13:08 GMT+01:00 Ove Ranheim : > > > +1 for this :) > > > > > > 2014-02-17 10:10 GMT+01:00 M

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Antoine Sabot-Durand
Yes Ove, too few Red Hat committers. But they’re will be one more when CDI 1.2 will be out and work for preparing CDI 2.0 will be on track. Antoine Sabot-Durand ——— Twitter : @antoine_sd CDI co-spec lead & eco-system development Agorava tech lead Le 16 févr. 2014 à 22:38, Ove Ranhei

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Cody Lerum
+1 On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please fix > the Tx stuff. > > In that case I'd say we gonna ship a 0.6 and then in 3 weeks move to 1.0. > > wdyt? > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > > On Monday, 17 February

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Ove Ranheim
Hi Antoine, it's good to hear that more red hat committers are on its way :) On 17 Feb 2014, at 16:22, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote: > Yes Ove, too few Red Hat committers. But they’re will be one more when CDI > 1.2 will be out and work for preparing CDI 2.0 will be on track. > > Antoine Sabot-D

Re: [DISCUSS] next release version? 0.6 or 1.0?

2014-02-17 Thread Christian Kaltepoth
+1 for pushing out 0.6 ASAP and 1.0 as soon as all the "must have" features are complete. 2014-02-17 10:10 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg : > Oki, I can help a bit with ViewAccessScoped. Romain and Thomas, please fix > the Tx stuff. > > In that case I'd say we gonna ship a 0.6 and then in 3 weeks move