> Judging by the levels of understanding I've witnessed here...
I don't think you came here to contribute to the project. I think you came
here to vent. Let it out...
At the end of the day I just want to create cool websites, apps and
experiences. I don't care if Flash or AIR is popular or not. I
Nice, great idea!
Chris
From: Erik de Bruin
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:19 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Good point. I will create the 4.15 JIRA right then, and remove them from
the 4.14 one. That way we don't lose them, while keeping the process clean.
EdB
On Wedne
Good point. I will create the 4.15 JIRA right then, and remove them from
the 4.14 one. That way we don't lose them, while keeping the process clean.
EdB
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Justin Mclean
wrote:
> HI,
>
> > I will remove any unassigned issues from the 4.14 roster when I cut
> > th
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Om, I haven’t really followed what you are doing, but is it impractical to
> create another folder next to the WireFrame and others and call it
> OldMobileTheme and keep the old theme there?
>
>
I don't think that is too hard to implement. Lee,
On 12/9/14, 3:48 PM, "Alain Ekambi" wrote:
>@Alex.
>Like I said before No offense to the work you guys put into FlexJS.
>From a technical point of view a fascinating effort.
>But the question is how do you plan to compete against stuff like GWT,
>Typescript, Dart ?
I don’t feel like FlexJS is
You made it clear you're in maintenance mode and that this project is
actually for corporate interest when you told me to hush and not use words
that might upset adobe customers. I think the broken piece of garbage mail
unsubscribe function might work this time (3rd time), so I probably won't
see y
On 12/9/14, 2:56 PM, "Jesse Nicholson" wrote:
>Okay so,
>
>"you may have missed folks who occasionally ask if, for example Flash
>Player version N is going to stop running their existing Flex apps. These
>folks can have significant investments in large code bases and it would be
>very stressfu
@Alex.
Like I said before No offense to the work you guys put into FlexJS.
>From a technical point of view a fascinating effort.
But the question is how do you plan to compete against stuff like GWT,
Typescript, Dart ?
"Feel free to get going on the things in your list".
I think I showed my wor
HI,
> I will remove any unassigned issues from the 4.14 roster when I cut
> the release branch this Friday.
IMO it's better to leave them in the JIRA ticket rather than remove them so
when you make the next release you already have some issues you may want to fix.
Justin
On 12/9/14, 2:54 PM, "Alain Ekambi" wrote:
>@Gary Yang.
>Cant agree more.
>
>Why would one use
>ActionScript to cross compile to JS ?
Because there are millions of lines of existing AS and MXML code out there
and those who want to reduce the cost of getting that code to run in more
places can
Well it's obviously not working, because I'm still getting emails. Judging
by the levels of understanding I've witnessed here, I can understand how
something as simple as catching an incoming email, parsing out the address
and removing it from a database is a monumental task and apparently easy to
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Jesse Nicholson
wrote:
> How do I unsubscribe from the apache morticians of private corporate
> interest list?
>
Step by step instructions are here:
http://flex.apache.org/community-mailinglists.html
Thanks,
Om
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Jesse Nichols
How do I unsubscribe from the apache morticians of private corporate
interest list?
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Jesse Nicholson
wrote:
> It works in Chrome as well. But that doesn't matter. It's not full blown
> because it's not a complete product. Besides, its a stupid toy project
> meant t
Why should an hypothetical Flex 5 only care about JS? I don't get it, there
are a lot of us who don't use Flash for the web ever (I know, JS is not
just for the web, but outside of it it loses a lot of power). If you want
to move away from Flash I'd say Haxe is way more convenient.
On Tue, Dec 9,
It works in Chrome as well. But that doesn't matter. It's not full blown
because it's not a complete product. Besides, its a stupid toy project
meant to demonstrate running a fast VM inside a fast VM. His post is
retarded, he's a flash developer in denial that his career path is over.
Apparently yo
Exactly. No one wants to use a dead language for a dead platform to compile
to javascript, when especially with Typescript, it's nearly syntaticaly
identical to AS, but not targetting a dusty old dead platform. A one-time
compilation of course to source should take place to translate this to
someth
Okay so,
"you may have missed folks who occasionally ask if, for example Flash
Player version N is going to stop running their existing Flex apps. These
folks can have significant investments in large code bases and it would be
very stressful and expensive from them to have to rush to get off of
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:29 PM, jude wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
> > >That being said -- I wonder what people's opinions are for what
> > >(obtainable) goals we could make so we can make a 5.0 release. I think
> > >it's about due, and it would generate press an
@Gary Yang.
Cant agree more.
The first time i heard about FlexJS (no offense to the work of the people
working on it) I knew Flex is in a really bad position. Why would one use
ActionScript to cross compile to JS ? The time Flex JS is mature to be 10%
usable things like GWT, TypeScript, Dart will
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson
wrote:
> @Jude, tbh I skimmed over half of your post.
Not cool. I think you should go back and read it because he makes a lot of
sense.
> I didn't say plugins are bad,
> at all, ever. Did you click the links I posted here? Did you see a full
>
There are lots of advantages to Flex beyond Flash, and FlexJS is leveraging
those advantages.
FWIW, here’s my perspective from a while back, but it’s still relevant.
http://printui.com/blog/2013/01/flex-flash/
Harbs
On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Gary Yang wrote:
> Face the reality, the majori
Face the reality, the majority will mark their resume HTML5 developer after
Apple said No Flash on Ipad, even they do not know what it means.
the way I see it, Flex should fight with its advantages which is Flash
Platform. there are too many javascript frameworks already.
You can say Javascript/h
Like Jude said, welcome to the group. Since you are new, you may have
missed folks who occasionally ask if, for example Flash Player version N
is going to stop running their existing Flex apps. These folks can have
significant investments in large code bases and it would be very stressful
and exp
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> >That being said -- I wonder what people's opinions are for what
> >(obtainable) goals we could make so we can make a 5.0 release. I think
> >it's about due, and it would generate press and mindshare coming up with a
> >major release. I think
@Jude, tbh I skimmed over half of your post. I didn't say plugins are bad,
at all, ever. Did you click the links I posted here? Did you see a full
blown actionscript virtual machine in pure JS that emulates everything
flash does in the browser? I'm not really sure there is anything more to
say afte
On 12/9/2014 5:05 PM, Jesse Nicholson wrote:
Adobe abandoned this project,
From my perspective, Adobe has been very supportive of this project.
I don't think it gets the manpower that it did when Flex was part of
Adobe's long-term commercial vision to get the Developer crowd, but I
wouldn
Hi Jesse,
Welcome to the group. You're perspective is welcome. But one thing I'm sick
of hearing and have to disagree with is the Flash is dead argument. If it's
in use it's not dead. It's used by over 2 billion people and used regularly
to create mobile AIR apps. The browser can't compete yet and
On 12/9/2014 5:03 PM, Jesse Nicholson wrote:
Didn't you just publish a book
I call it a training course, but there are books that are part of it.
to help people migrate away from Flex
It was intended as a compare/contrast between Flex and AngularJS. I
don't expect anyone will migrate ap
It's a bit sad to see these (or rather any) truths dismissed as FUD. Adobe
abandoned this project, pulled flash support for what few mobile platforms
it had left, dropped updating the flex ide, and has publicly stated in
their roadmap that their future focus is HTML5/JS. But yeah, my comment
that t
My 10 cents below...
On 12/9/14, 1:23 PM, "Jesse Nicholson" wrote:
>With all due respect Gary, I just finished making a project management
>application for a client that is pure HTML/JS and runs on all browsers.
>The
>application looks like the latest version of office, that is, it looks
>like
>
https://www.lifeafterflex.com/AngularJSForFlexDevelopers/ That is you,
right?
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Jesse Nicholson
wrote:
> Didn't you just publish a book to help people migrate away from Flex,
> implying that it's dead because it's stuck on flash?
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:00 PM,
Didn't you just publish a book to help people migrate away from Flex,
implying that it's dead because it's stuck on flash?
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
> On 12/9/2014 4:23 PM, Jesse Nicholson wrote:
>
>> I also disagree that the value of flex "is an extension of Flash". I
On 12/9/2014 4:23 PM, Jesse Nicholson wrote:
I also disagree that the value of flex "is an extension of Flash". I
believe that's actually it's curse.
It is a desert topping and a floor wax. (
http://www.break.com/video/ugc/snl-new-shimmer-commercial-704661 )
My perception is that reliance
I understand, maybe Javascript is the future, I am not against it, the
problem is now it is not working now.
when javascript is ready, what is the difference between actionscript and
javascript?
For complex UI system, it has to be based on OOP/Modularization, never the
syntax of a particular API.
The beauty of open source is that we don't have to first agree on a
direction before we start.
Folks are free to post their ideas and start working on what they think is
the right path forward.
If they can prove that it is a feasible path, others will start following
them.
FlexJS is there for fo
Maybe. But first I have to isolate what’s special about this paragraph. I
haven’t figured that out yet…
What’s clearly happening is the computedFormat is coming from the paragraph and
not the span and for some reason the digitCase (as well as some other
properties) are undefined rather than the
Om, I haven’t really followed what you are doing, but is it impractical to
create another folder next to the WireFrame and others and call it
OldMobileTheme and keep the old theme there?
-Alex
On 12/9/14, 12:06 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Subscriptions
>>
Maybe try a “Hello World” example and see how computedFormat gets computed?
On 12/9/14, 12:55 PM, "Harbs" wrote:
>A bit more:
>
>It looks like things are going off in
>FlowLeafElement.doComputeTextLayoutFormat()
>
>formatForCascade is null…
>
>On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Harbs wrote:
>
>> I co
I forgot to mention something that I think is worth mentioning with regard
to the debate of "can pure JS/HTML do what the flash runtime can." To
answer that, just look at Mozilla Shumway, a full blown AVM2 virtual
machine written in pure JS. Too bad it didn't have some kind of AOT
functionality.:)
Like I said I'm new here, I respect everyone, I don't mean to be the
armchair expert at flex and the apache-flex community. But, perhaps part of
the issues faced here is a lack of a clear goal for the future and a lack
of a clear, independent identity, as a product and a team.
With all due respect Gary, I just finished making a project management
application for a client that is pure HTML/JS and runs on all browsers. The
application looks like the latest version of office, that is, it looks like
a clean, modern and power desktop application, and functions like one, in
pu
I do not think it is possible to implement even near features to current
Flash based Flex, There is a FlexJS project there, let the developers tell
their story,
What is Flex? Why people use it?
People use Flex when working on real complex UI that CAN NOT BE implemented
with Javascript!
The value
Just to be clear -- there is no AS4. Adobe proposed the standard and
started some work on it and then didn't proceed with it any further.
I don't think we need to set a goal of a complete re-write to read a 5.0
milestone. I think working on some of the bigger concepts of decoupling
some of the c
A bit more:
It looks like things are going off in
FlowLeafElement.doComputeTextLayoutFormat()
formatForCascade is null…
On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Harbs wrote:
> I could use some help:
>
> I’m getting a weird RTE when trying to get the computedFormat of a
> SpanElement. This is the stack
I could use some help:
I’m getting a weird RTE when trying to get the computedFormat of a SpanElement.
This is the stack trace in the TLF classes:
TypeError: Error #2007: Parameter digitCase must be non-null.
at flash.text.engine::ElementFormat/set digitCase()
at
flashx.textLayo
I think it's a touchy subject. The flash player and adobe always seem to get a
bunch of flack, often unlike most other similar platforms. This whole
"proprietary" phrase is usually used as some sort of bludgeon meaning
intrinsically bad; which it obviously is not. But it's a difficult situation
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Subscriptions wrote:
> I agree with a) and b), but disagree with the solution.
>
> However, no-on else seems bothered so i'll grudgingly submit to the
> general consensus ;)
>
Again, you don't have to. Help me help you :-) Here are the various ways
folks could
I agree with a) and b), but disagree with the solution.
However, no-on else seems bothered so i'll grudgingly submit to the
general consensus ;)
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
On 09/12/2014 19:29, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote:
Most of the feedback I had received was
a.) The old skins looked really
FTR, I checked the archives. I only found that FB didn’t like versions <
4. No idea what will happen if we try 5, 2015, etc.
On 12/9/14, 11:04 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote:
>I think for this version, we should stick to being in the 4.x numbering
>scheme. We don't really have that many cha
My 2 cents is that the project should be focusing on moving away from a
third-party, proprietary and frankly dead platform. I'm also not sure what
actionscript 4 has to do with anything, it's not like there will be a
ground-up rewrite of the entire project to port it to a new language. Even
a mass,
Most of the feedback I had received was
a.) The old skins looked really outdated (they were from Android 2.x period)
b.) They were creating their own skins to make it look more modern.
Thanks,
Om
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:26 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Sub
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Subscriptions wrote:
> Its a shame that backwards-compatability wasn't considered important
>
>
I think you are missing the point. I was just trying to explain what
happened. Of course, backwards compatibility is important. Just that no
one wanted that itch scr
Its a shame that backwards-compatability wasn't considered important
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
On 09/12/2014 19:16, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote:
We can of course add various themes that the users can select during
development, but that is outside the scope of this current endeavor, which
is to u
OK perfect thanks for clarifying that.
On 9 Dec 2014 14:18, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jesse Nicholson <
> ascensionsyst...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I'm not familiar with the code but it makes sense to abstract away visual
> > styles so that custom themes/st
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jesse Nicholson wrote:
> I'm not familiar with the code but it makes sense to abstract away visual
> styles so that custom themes/styles can be easily swapped out. Especially
> when you consider how frequently design styles are changing, like how the
> flat UI the
just to bring this up...
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Gary Yang wrote:
> Java Spring is a very good example for framework evolving, for Flex, I
> think it is the similar situation:
>
> The key function is
> 1) Mxml
> 2)Binding
> 3)Data structure such as IList implementations
>
> on top of Mxm
I think for this version, we should stick to being in the 4.x numbering
scheme. We don't really have that many changes to warrant a major release
(although we do have some pretty nice changes that I'm excited to see
published!)
That being said -- I wonder what people's opinions are for what
(obta
Just a thought. I do worry that there may be many companies that have invested
in Flash Builder projects who are traditionally slow to move. If we do
something to "no longer support Flash Builder", I think we should plan out when
that would happen to give the community a chance to switch IDEs.
Very true, indeed, but does that mean that from version 5 onwards, FB won't
work anymore? Would we have to buy (or hire) another IDE?
Dany
> Op 9-dec.-2014, om 19:27 heeft Jesse Nicholson
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> "Although I don't think we should be bending over backwards for an IDE
I'm not familiar with the code but it makes sense to abstract away visual
styles so that custom themes/styles can be easily swapped out. Especially
when you consider how frequently design styles are changing, like how the
flat UI theme was so amazing and now, if you follow threads on dribbble,
you'
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Subscriptions wrote:
> Perhaps sdk could include 2 mobile theme SWCs (one with new stuff, one
> without)? Then users who dont want to update could use the legacy theme (in
> same way we currently select any alternative theme).
>
>
We discussed this and decided not
Perhaps sdk could include 2 mobile theme SWCs (one with new stuff, one
without)? Then users who dont want to update could use the legacy theme
(in same way we currently select any alternative theme).
Should be straight-forward to update the build script to generate both
SWCs (which i'm happy t
"Although I don't think we should be bending over backwards for an IDE that
is now from our standpoint 3rd Party. Especially since it's not being
updated."
+10 to that
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> Although I don't think we should be b
I want to point out that the new skins will show up only for Android OS >
4.0 and iOS > 7. If an older OS is detected, the old skins show up.
That said, we can add a mechanism to turn it off. What is your usecase?
What would be a good way, in you mind to turn off the new skins? A
compiler direc
I do not like the sound of that!!!
How do i turn off the new skins?
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
On 09/12/2014 17:29, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote:
And since we are issued CSS selectors, you don't have to
change anything in your code. The new skins should just show up on your
device when you recom
Although I don't think we should be bending over backwards for an IDE that is
now from our standpoint 3rd Party. Especially since it's not being updated.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:03 AM
To: dev@flex.ap
On Dec 9, 2014 9:16 AM, "Subscriptions"
wrote:
>
> So the new 'themes' arent actually themes? They're just extra skins
within the existing mobile theme?
That is correct. And since we are issued CSS selectors, you don't have to
change anything in your code. The new skins should just show up on y
So the new 'themes' arent actually themes? They're just extra skins
within the existing mobile theme?
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
On 09/12/2014 08:54, Erik de Bruin wrote:
To apply a theme (FlatSpark), see [1]; applying a skin (iOS, Android),
it is as simple as setting the 'skinClass' property
I also decided to mark FLEX-34555 as not a problem. The test case is
doing something rather unusual, so unless we get more information from the
author, it should be resolvable in the author’s code.
On 12/9/14, 9:13 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote:
>Added a comment to FLEX-33934. It isn’t an issue with
Can you point me to the FlatSpark theme SWC?
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
On 09/12/2014 08:54, Erik de Bruin wrote:
To apply a theme (FlatSpark), see [1]; applying a skin (iOS, Android),
it is as simple as setting the 'skinClass' property in MXML [2], or
apply the style in code [3].
HTH,
EdB
P
Added a comment to FLEX-33934. It isn’t an issue with the FocusManager or
DataGrid per-se. Someone else might be able to apply and test my
suggestions. I’m buried in the BlazeDS integration right now.
-Alex
On 12/9/14, 8:32 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote:
>Would all the committers that have JIRA
Would all the committers that have JIRA issues that are marked for
4.14 [1] assigned to them please take a look at them. Can you then:
1) report if you have time to take them on in the next few weeks, and/or
2) commit your code and resolve them ;-)
I will remove any unassigned issues from the 4.
Go, Chris!
;-)
Thanks,
EdB
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Chris Martin (JIRA) wrote:
>
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34472?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> ]
>
> Chris Martin reassigned FLEX-34472:
> --
I thought so too.
Tom
On 08/12/14 20:37, Erik de Bruin wrote:
Didn't Alex find that the current FB requires the leading 4?
EdB
On Monday, December 8, 2014, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
We have a pretty big release coming up [1]. I am wondering if it is time
to bump up the version number t
Typically, these type of questions - how to use the SDK - are better
suited for us...@flex.apache.org.
This list (dev@flex.apache.org) is for development of the Flex SDK
itself. If you think your issue is due to a bug in the SDK, please
feel free to ignore this email and restate your question. Bet
Hi,
I used to have a DataGroup with a Renderer which had a bunch of TextFields,
CheckBoxes, Dropdowns,...
Worked fine, was using it with VerticalLayout with requestMaxRowCount =4.
It had a button below to add an item or Delete button inside Renderer.
All that worked fine on TitleWindow popup.
I ad
We seem to be back to the 380 something bitmaps failure ... This went
away last time when I rebooted the VM. I have done that again, let's
wait and see.
EdB
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:07 PM, wrote:
> flex-sdk_mustella - Build # 1225 - Still Failing:
>
> http://flex-mustella.cloudapp.net/job/fle
+1
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:57 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] - Allow RC votes to carry over at any point in the
release process
Alright. I just removed the entire line. It jives with w
Hi,
Small reminder about this. Maybe new folks from the team also would like to
vote for support FlexJS in Intellij. :)
I have just voted on this ticket.
Piotr
-
Apache Flex PMC
piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
--
View this message in context:
http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.co
To apply a theme (FlatSpark), see [1]; applying a skin (iOS, Android),
it is as simple as setting the 'skinClass' property in MXML [2], or
apply the style in code [3].
HTH,
EdB
P.S. Google is your friend for this type of questions ;-)
1:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Flex/4.0/UsingFlashBuilder/W
On Dec 8, 2014 11:59 PM, "Harbs" wrote:
>
> Alright. I just removed the entire line. It jives with what Bertrand
suggested anyways.
>
> Let’s try to avoid “carried votes” and just go with simplified revoting…
>
> From my perspective we’ve spent more than enough time on a really
insignificant issue
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