Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-31 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: My point is that I can already do the this same processing with: ... Does xi:include enable documents to be handled with the Cocoon cache? When that included document changes, does Cocoon contine to use the cached content rather than reloa

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-31 Thread Ross Gardler
Diwaker Gupta wrote: On Saturday 30 July 2005 3:22 pm, Ross Gardler wrote: /feeds/somefeed.xml My point is that I can already do the this same processing with: ... All that I can see that is changing is that in views the included src is identified

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-31 Thread Ross Gardler
Diwaker Gupta wrote: On Saturday 30 July 2005 4:38 pm, Ross Gardler wrote: ... o unification: most of the work on views so far has focused on XHTML. again, i'm having a hard time envisioning a unified framework that integrates all input/output formats. This was touched on at ApacheCon. in f

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > > My point is that I can already do the this same processing with: > > ... > > > > Does xi:include enable documents to be handled with the Cocoon cache? When that included document changes, does Cocoon contine to use the cached content rather than reloading?

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On Saturday 30 July 2005 3:22 pm, Ross Gardler wrote: > > > > > >> nugget="get.nugget.feeder"> > > /feeds/somefeed.xml > > > > > > > > My point is that I can already do the this same processing with: > >... > > > > > > All that I can see that i

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On Saturday 30 July 2005 4:38 pm, Ross Gardler wrote: > > o naming and terminology: what is a view? what is a template? given the > > same content (generated by some "template"), are there different "views" > > for each output type? > > This was discussed at the hackathon, and I just sent a mail to

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Forgive me for being obtuse, but I completely missed the "change in procesing paradigm" part :-) I mean, were you talking about a conceptual paradigm shift, or an implementation detail? Conceptually, IIUC, we still follow a dispatcher-view patter, no? See my overlapping e

Simplifying forrest:views? (was Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest)

2005-07-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: I replied in a another response with respect to the processing paradigm. This response is about a different issue, hence the change in subject. The business helper that we have are best described by our most famous contract. /feeds/somefeed.xml

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: forrest:views will change the way we are processing a request. Please explain why your example below changes the *way* we process a request: /feeds/somefeed.xml My point is that I can already do the this same processing with: .

Re: [views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
Forgive me for being obtuse, but I completely missed the "change in procesing paradigm" part :-) I mean, were you talking about a conceptual paradigm shift, or an implementation detail? Conceptually, IIUC, we still follow a dispatcher-view patter, no? I mean Forrest has been about separating con

[views] Change of processing paradigm of forrest

2005-07-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
G'day devs, for now we limited views to templates in our discussion *but* what I recommend is more then this templating part of forrest:views. forrest:views will change the way we are processing a request. I designed it after the Dispatcher View J2EE design pattern [1]. "Dispatcher View Context