Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-30 Thread Stefan Eissing
Thanks for the props! I detail my thoughts on h3 and httpd more below: > Am 28.09.2019 um 00:18 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:48 AM Eric Covener wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:20 AM Helmut K. C. Tessarek > wrote: > > > > On 2019-09-27 03:00, Stefan Eissing

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-28 Thread Luca Toscano
Il giorno sab 28 set 2019 alle ore 00:19 William A Rowe Jr ha scritto: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:48 AM Eric Covener wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:20 AM Helmut K. C. Tessarek >> wrote: >> > >> > On 2019-09-27 03:00, Stefan Eissing wrote: >> > > I know of no plans to implement

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:48 AM Eric Covener wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:20 AM Helmut K. C. Tessarek > wrote: > > > > On 2019-09-27 03:00, Stefan Eissing wrote: > > > I know of no plans to implement HTTP/3 support in Apache httpd. > > > > I'm sorry, but this seems rather strange to me.

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Alex Hautequest
Although I should had made a few things clear, seems some good discussion happened. Amongst the same lines: When I asked about Apache, I should had stated HTTPD. There is a QUIC implementation on Apache.org under ATS (Apache Traffic Server), a reverse proxy, load balancer daemon. While

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Eric Covener
> I'm very grateful that Stefan took the initiative to get h2 into httpd. +1

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2019-09-27 11:47, Eric Covener wrote: > I don't think market share is a big motivating factor for active contributors. Maybe not, but I remember a discussion a while back on this list that had to do with features vs stability, about market shares and why other web servers are gaining. >

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Eric Covener
> HTTPD is great and familiar to lots of people, but HTTPD'S age brings > a lot of baggage. Lots of other great servers have much > less baggage and currently have much more commercial interest and buzz. For a short time my employer talked about "two-speed IT" to frame how different products

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Eric Covener
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:20 AM Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > > On 2019-09-27 03:00, Stefan Eissing wrote: > > I know of no plans to implement HTTP/3 support in Apache httpd. > > I'm sorry, but this seems rather strange to me. So what's the idea behind this > decision (or better said the lack

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2019-09-27 10:40, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > This answer \V/ (from Stefan) below. More explanation follows... Thanks Bill, your explanation certainly helped to shed some light on this. Cheers, K. C. -- regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0x172380A011EF4944 Key fingerprint =

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2019-09-27 03:00, Stefan Eissing wrote: > I know of no plans to implement HTTP/3 support in Apache httpd. I'm sorry, but this seems rather strange to me. So what's the idea behind this decision (or better said the lack of a plan)? "Let's wait until other web servers implement it and wonder

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
This answer \V/ (from Stefan) below. More explanation follows... The httpd project is entirely transparent. All development decisions occur on the email list you asked this question. Stefan himself stepped up to integrate Tatsuhiro's nghttp2 implementation into httpd (very successfully) so we

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Stefan Eissing
I think there are plenty resources online where you can find an answer to your question. > Am 27.09.2019 um 09:18 schrieb Mark Blackman : > > >> On 26 Sep 2019, at 18:54, Alex Hautequest wrote: >> >>

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Mark Blackman
> On 26 Sep 2019, at 18:54, Alex Hautequest wrote: > > https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/09/26/1710239/cloudflare-google-chrome-and-firefox-add-http3-support > > With that, the obvious question: what about Apache? What’s the incentive to add it? - Mark

Re: Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-27 Thread Stefan Eissing
I know of no plans to implement HTTP/3 support in Apache httpd. > Am 26.09.2019 um 19:54 schrieb Alex Hautequest : > > https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/09/26/1710239/cloudflare-google-chrome-and-firefox-add-http3-support > > With that, the obvious question: what about Apache?

Cloudflare, Google Chrome, and Firefox Add HTTP/3 Support

2019-09-26 Thread Alex Hautequest
https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/09/26/1710239/cloudflare-google-chrome-and-firefox-add-http3-support With that, the obvious question: what about Apache?