Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy writes: I think a properly designed site should insist on its host name, i.e. I see you think I'm gobbledygook.bleh, but I'm going to redirect you to http://www.modpython.org/ because that is my true name. This is very common with sites that respond to both

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jorey Bump
Jim Gallacher wrote: Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: I don't know what the specific issue is with parsed_uri, if this is a mod_python bug it should just be fixed BUT if this is an issue with httpd, I don't think we should cover the problem up by having mod_python fix it. Since we are

Re: PHP testing - problem with php libraries loading

2005-11-30 Thread Chris Shiflett
Filin A. wrote: But after I read your question I made an experiment whith my system httpd.conf and php.ini and checked phpinfo() output. I've set the extension_dir in php.ini to the wrong directory and assigned correct value in the httpd.conf. It's strange but though phpinfo() acknowledges my

[STATUS] (httpd-test: flood) Wed Nov 30 23:52:58 2005

2005-11-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
flood STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2004-11-24 19:36:41 -0500 (Wed, 24 Nov 2004) $] Release: 1.0: Released July 23, 2002 milestone-03: Tagged January 16, 2002 ASF-transfer: Released July 17, 2001

[STATUS] (httpd-test: perl-framework) Wed Nov 30 23:54:11 2005

2005-11-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
httpd-test/perl-framework STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2004-11-24 19:36:41 -0500 (Wed, 24 Nov 2004) $] Stuff to do: * finish the t/TEST exit code issue (ORed with 0x2C if framework failed) * change existing tests that frob the

Problem building httpd 2.0.55 with openssl 0.9.8a

2005-11-30 Thread Stephen Collyer
[Aside - I posted a similar query to the users list and got a couple of suggestions but no solution, so I'm reposting here] In brief: I'm trying to build http 2.0.55 against openssl 0.9.8a. I've built (but not installed) a local copy of openssl, with shared libraries. I've built http like

AW: problems with ssl in balance/proxy mode

2005-11-30 Thread Matthias Behrens
thx this seems to be the proper fix, but how do i apply it? which tool do i need for patching the sourcecode? sorry for asking such newby questions. i am new to opensourcedevelopment. alos: can u tell me if my way of fixing the problem was wrong and why? what is it with brigades and buckets

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Nick Kew wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 20:49, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 29, 2005 3:40:11 PM -0500 Paul A Houle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * prefork and worker seem to be about equally fast on linux? Yup - this is because forking and threading are equivalent (by and

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Nick Kew wrote: Hmmm, how about an early adopters page? We could *imply* the organisations by featuring mugshots and brief profiles of both Brian and Colm as having successfully beta-tested 2.1.x in very-high-volume production environments. Perhaps, as long as it wasn't tied directly to

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Well, lets not even come close to risking that. I'm in the process of having an internal whitepaper I did being sanitized for public consumption. Once that's done -- hopefully this week or next -- everything in it is quotable. -- Brian Akins Lead Systems

Re: Problem building httpd 2.0.55 with openssl 0.9.8a

2005-11-30 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:05:19AM +, Stephen Collyer wrote: [Aside - I posted a similar query to the users list and got a couple of suggestions but no solution, so I'm reposting here] In brief: I'm trying to build http 2.0.55 against openssl 0.9.8a. I've built (but not installed) a

Re: httpd-2.1.7 Connection-pooling Problem w/ ReverseProxy, Loadbalancer

2005-11-30 Thread Hansjoerg Pehofer
Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you try HEAD on httpd-trunk for a fix until something more robust as far as the connections are implemented... It gets the backend-connections right, but segfaults in the new code in proxy_util.c. I got the following out of a coredump: dbx:

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Jess Holle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers. I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on PHP or something else

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Paul A Houle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers. I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on PHP or something else which I wouldn't trust 100% in a threaded configuration. Is there anything we can do in 2.4/3.0 that will help gain that trust? PHP, or it's extensions or

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 08:01:41AM -0500, Brian Akins wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: It's public knowledge that CNN.com runs Apache 2.2, would it cause you a lot of trouble for that to be referenced? As long as it's from public sources (netcraft, HTTP headers,

[PATCH] httxt2dbm backport to 2.0

2005-11-30 Thread Rich Bowen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://people.apache.org/~rbowen/httxt2dbm_proposed_patch I'd like to copy httx2dbm back into 2.0 from 2.1. This is primarily because I'm tired of telling folks that they can generate RewriteMap dbm files using httxt2dbm if they happen to be running

Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Joshua Slive
Brian Akins wrote: I have been given word that our statements can appear in a press release or testimonial, it just has to be passed through legal here. So what type of statements are we looking for? Let's bring the Apache Public Relations Committee into this to see what advice they have.

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
Joshua Slive wrote: By the way, are you using 2.0 or 2.1? BOth. 2.1 in higher traffic now. -- Brian Akins Lead Systems Engineer CNN Internet Technologies

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Is there anything we can do in 2.4/3.0 that will help gain that trust? It's not Apache's fault. It's not even PHP's fault. It's a much bigger problem with the open source libraries that people link into PHP, Perl, Python and the like. The problem is

Re: svn commit: r349979 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
These might also be useful in patches-to-apply upon release :) == --- httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS (original) +++ httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS Wed Nov 30 08:27:14 2005 @@ -67,8 +67,16 @@ RELEASE

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Wayne S. Frazee
Brian Akins writes: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on PHP or something else which I wouldn't trust 100% in a threaded configuration. Is there anything we can do in 2.4/3.0 that will help gain that trust?

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
As for the larger issue at hand: the reason req.parsed_uri is not filled in is because browsers don't send the info in the GET... Disclaimer: What follows is not an exhaustive, conclusive search by tracing running code, but rather searching source code and watching apache behaviour with tools

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Jess Holle
Paul A Houle wrote: Jess Holle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers. I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/30/05, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Paul A Houle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers.

Re: [PATCH] httxt2dbm backport to 2.0

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:17:13AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://people.apache.org/~rbowen/httxt2dbm_proposed_patch I'd like to copy httx2dbm back into 2.0 from 2.1. This is primarily because I'm tired of telling folks that they can

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Nick Kew
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 16:30, Paul A Houle wrote: PHP's market position is as a product that any idiot can download and install, just following the instructions, and get a system with good reliability and performance -- a painful phase of shaking out threading bugs would endanger

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Joshua Slive wrote: Re Brian's question above, I think we want a statement emphasizing performance and scalability. It doesn't need to be extremely precise, spec-wise. Most people reading a press release wouldn't care. We just want to transmit

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 05:13:07PM +, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Joshua Slive wrote: Re Brian's question above, I think we want a statement emphasizing performance and scalability. It doesn't need to be extremely precise, spec-wise. Most

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Eli Marmor
Let my try to contribute my $.02: Usually, a PR item which tells about company X delivered product Y to customer Z, is signed by both - X and Z. Since most of the organizations don't exist for charity but for business, Z must earn something out of this PR. Sometimes, the fact that Z agreed to be

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Nick Kew wrote: That looks a lot like Windows' market position. And I suspect it's no accident: both products have heaped on new 'goodies', all too often at the expense of other considerations. It's IMO also no accident that PHP is moving towards a Windows-like security track record.

Re: httpd-2.1.7 Connection-pooling Problem w/ ReverseProxy,

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ahh... no doubt conn-hostname is NULL Hansjoerg Pehofer wrote: Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you try HEAD on httpd-trunk for a fix until something more robust as far as the connections are implemented... It gets the backend-connections right, but segfaults in the new

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
This is cool stuff, thanks! I'm quessing that perhaps req.parsed_uri makes a lot more sense when Apache is used as a proxy, in which case what follows GET is the full URL. Perhaps we can add something to the docs that says this attribute gets its data from the argument to the HTTP GET

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Nick Kew
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 18:27, Paul A Houle wrote: Nick Kew wrote: That looks a lot like Windows' market position. And I suspect it's no accident: both products have heaped on new 'goodies', all too often at the expense of other considerations. It's IMO also no accident that PHP

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
Jorey Bump writes: Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: Perhaps we can add something to the docs that says this attribute gets its data from the argument to the HTTP GET method, which is usually just the path in the URL and does not include the protocol, hostname and port. It is only

Re: httpd-2.1.7 Connection-pooling Problem w/ ReverseProxy, Loadbalancer

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 11/29/2005 04:12 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Can you try HEAD on httpd-trunk for a fix until something more robust as far as the connections are implemented... Just for convenience: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=349723view=rev Has

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:19:25AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I'll just remind everyone this is a public list and its archived too. =) If you wish to keep things private, we can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] and possibly the PMC list. Yes, there's a difference between including it in a PR and

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Thanks, and just to make the prc aware of one more thing; our release of 2.2.0 will be done ten years to the day (well in as much as a day can be put on it) since Apache 1.0.0. The first ever Apache httpd GA. There may well be some PR in that too :) I feel old...

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:52:38AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 30, 2005 7:39:08 PM + Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, and just to make the prc aware of one more thing; our release of 2.2.0 will be done ten years to the day (well in as much as a day

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/11/30, Jim Gallacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At this point I think we should leave parsed_uri alone, as it seems todo the correct thing - if not the desired thing. At a minimum we shouldexpand the documentation to warn people of the limitations. I still think it would be useful to have a tuple

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
Ooops from your definition it looks like this holds : req.unparsed_uri = req.uri + req.path_info So we'd better use unparsed_uri to reconstitute the original absolute URL. Before the publisher computes path_info it must be empty, so in this case req.unparsed_uri == req.uri. I'll check this.

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:52:38AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 30, 2005 7:39:08 PM + Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, and just to make the prc aware of one more thing; our release of 2.2.0 will

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Nick Kew
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 20:09, Sander Temme wrote: It's a great display of our commitment to stability, long-term strategic planning and thinking, enterprise-grade development and trustworthy convervatism. Right? ;-) Yes and we should milk that for all it's worth. There was talk

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gallacher
Daniel J. Popowich wrote: Jorey Bump writes: Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: Perhaps we can add something to the docs that says this attribute gets its data from the argument to the HTTP GET method, which is usually just the path in the URL and does not include the protocol, hostname

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gallacher
Jim Gallacher wrote: Using an internal_redirect messes with some of these attributes but not others. Those that change get their new values from the new_uri used in the redirect. Unchanged values are from the initial request. req.internal_redirect(new_uri) the_requestunchanged

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joe Orton wrote: It's pretty silly for anybody to suddenly wake up and declare some random bug as a showstopper for 2.2. Nobody has cared enough about the problem to fix it in the six months and four(?) 2.1.x alpha/beta releases that mod_dbd has been in the tree. So it clearly isn't really

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: Joe Orton wrote: Win32 is not special. It's a second-class citizen if anything because it gets so little developer attention. Now *that's* a statement for the Release Notes :) Absolutely, add to this list AIX, OS2, Netware, BeOS, HPUX and many others. Not to mention

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joost de Heer wrote: Win32 is not special. It's a second-class citizen if anything because it gets so little developer attention. And how many people compile the thing on Windows anyway, except the msi builder? My guess is that I need about 2 hands to count them Au contrare, I get

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
Jim Gallacher writes: Jim Gallacher wrote: Using an internal_redirect messes with some of these attributes but not others. Those that change get their new values from the new_uri used in the redirect. Unchanged values are from the initial request. req.internal_redirect(new_uri)

Re: svn commit: r349752 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/database: mod_dbd.c mod_dbd.h

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 16:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -AP_DECLARE(void) ap_dbd_prepare(server_rec *s, const char *query, +DBD_DECLARE(void) ap_dbd_prepare(server_rec *s, const char *query, const char *label) OK, other modules do this.

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gallacher
Nicolas Lehuen wrote: 2005/11/30, Jim Gallacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: At this point I think we should leave parsed_uri alone, as it seems to do the correct thing - if not the desired thing. At a minimum we should expand the documentation to warn people of

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 29, 2005 3:40:11 PM -0500 Paul A Houle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * prefork and worker seem to be about equally fast on linux? * MacOS X? fork() is *painfully* slow on the darwin kernel, I haven't tested but can't imagine that threading isn't a huge

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jorey Bump
Daniel J. Popowich wrote: Jorey Bump writes: Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: Perhaps we can add something to the docs that says this attribute gets its data from the argument to the HTTP GET method, which is usually just the path in the URL and does not include the protocol, hostname

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Brian Akins wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on PHP or something else which I wouldn't trust 100% in a threaded configuration. Is there anything we can do in 2.4/3.0 that will help gain that trust? PHP, or

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 30, 2005 7:39:08 PM + Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figures that it'd take us 10 years to go from 1.0-2.2. ;-) -- justin Good point, I propose we call this coming release 3.0 :)

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Jess Holle
Once 2.2 is released we'll be working to use it -- and distribute it with our products -- on Windows, Solaris, and AIX. I throw in patches relevant to these platforms when possible, but I don't have the time or interest in native (non-Java) code anymore to help out more. -- Jess Holle

Re: Press release for httpd 2.2 (was Re: OT: performance FUD)

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Akins
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Good point, I propose we call this coming release 3.0 :) No It should be Apache HTTP X (ten). All the other cool things are at 10 (or close). Mac OS, Solaris, Suse, Redhat, Mandrake -- Brian Akins Lead Systems Engineer CNN Internet Technologies

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jorey Bump wrote: Can anyone conceive of a use case where it would be alright to rely on this value, even when it's been arbitrarily populated by a client-supplied absoluteURI (via a proxy, for example)? What would a developer expect to be contained in this value? For

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error message and refusing to

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jorey Bump wrote: Nicolas Lehuen wrote: 2) Server name Thanks to Daniel's excellent posts, I can see that req.hostname is the best way to get the server name so far. Unfortunately, it depends on data sent by the client, but hey, so does the rest of the request

Re: httpd-2.1.7 Connection-pooling Problem w/ ReverseProxy, Loadbalancer

2005-11-30 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/30/2005 08:38 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: [..cut..] Has someone found out out why we close the connection if r-proxyreq == PROXYREQ_PROXY || r-proxyreq == PROXYREQ_REVERSE? I fear that this is something that has survived from 2.0.x.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: I diskile bundling APR, and dislike even more bundling third-party libs like expat and pcre. But I thought I/we had just lost that argument with louder voices. We lost the argument over pcre; our requirement is apparently just a little to particular to have the user obtain

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jorey Bump
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jorey Bump wrote: req.add_common_vars() servername = req.subprocess_env['SERVER_NAME'] That's a waste of CPU cycles, since add_common_vars() copies it from req.server.server_hostname (most likely, haven't check for sure) It

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Exactly. I've stopped testing httpd-2.1.x because there was nobody interested in testing apr-iconv 1.1.1, a prereq to httpd-2.1/2.2. Without any community interest, httpd on Win32 is clearly my toy, not a project port. It

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/11/30, Jim Gallacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] Nicolas Lehuen wrote: Ah, while I'm at it, knowing the DocumentRoot of the current VirtualHost would be great, too. But that's another story.I don't know that story. Is there a problem with req.document_root()? Well, I think I'm doing a bad

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Steffen
Build the php5apache2.dll ( php 5.1.1 apache2handler) with 2.2.0 on Win32. No issues. Steffen

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gallacher
Daniel J. Popowich wrote: Jim Gallacher writes: Jim Gallacher wrote: Using an internal_redirect messes with some of these attributes but not others. Those that change get their new values from the new_uri used in the redirect. Unchanged values are from the initial request.

Re: svn commit: r349582 - /httpd/httpd/tags/2.2.0/

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T.Fielding wrote: This is exactly what I said I would do in the [vote] thread for 2.1.10. No, it isn't -- you said that it was a vote to release 2.1.10. I assumed that meant you were going to bump the version number in CVS. There were several people who said they were +1 on 2.1.10 and

Fwd: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/11/30, Jorey Bump [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Finally, I'm getting the impression that most developers are looking fora portable way to get the ServerName, as defined in the Apacheconfiguration. This may currently be achieved in a variety of ways,including: servername = req.server.server_hostnameor:

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It was hardly nobody, I may be shoddily inexperienced with the win32 port, but I did go to the trouble of testing apr-iconv on win32 and have been regularly building 2.1/2.2 on win32 to make sure it

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Nicolas Lehuen
2005/11/30, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jorey Bump wrote: Nicolas Lehuen wrote: 2) Server name Thanks to Daniel's excellent posts, I can see that req.hostname is the best way to get the server name so far. Unfortunately, it depends on data sent by the

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
Note that this uri can in turn be splitted in something which is lost by the publisher and the req.path_info field, that is IIRC that we can assert(req.uri.endswith(req.path_info)). I don't know what req.path_info is before the publisher kicks in, though. I'm not sure I understand

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/30/05, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It was hardly nobody, I may be shoddily inexperienced with the win32 port, but I did go to the trouble of testing apr-iconv on win32

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Jim Gallacher
Jorey Bump wrote: Even better, deprecate req.hostname in 3.2, where we can add req.host to contain the value in req.headers_in['Host']. Then drop req.hostname in 3.3 completely. This will give developers some time to adapt. It's too late to be deprecating anything in 3.2. I know it seems like

Re: Various musings about the request URL / URI / whatever

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel J. Popowich
Nicolas Lehuen writes: a) Handlers and published modules seem to behave the same way, so the computation of path_info must come from above, i.e. either from mod_python or from Apache. b) We've got req.uri == req.subprocess_env.get(SCRIPT_NAME) + req.subprocess_env.get(PATH_INFO). Cool, but

Re: AW: problems with ssl in balance/proxy mode

2005-11-30 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/30/2005 11:53 AM, Matthias Behrens wrote: thx this seems to be the proper fix, but how do i apply it? which tool do i need for patching the sourcecode? sorry for asking such newby questions. i am new to opensourcedevelopment. Ok. Let me summarize: You found the reason for the

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Olaf van der Spek wrote: Wouldn't it help if (beta) binaries are posted to http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi? In general yes. In the case I mentioned, NO - you cannot post a candidate which hasn't received 3 +1's, and you certainly cannot push it out to the mirrors. But our alphas/betas

Re: AW: problems with ssl in balance/proxy mode

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:54:19PM +0100, Ruediger Pluem wrote: Ok. Let me summarize: You found the reason for the problem (which was really not easy in this case) but you do not know how to apply a patch to the source code. You are using Outlook for your mail and www.gulp.de runs on a Windows

httpd 2.2 ./buildconf in the future-imperfect tense

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] httpd-2.2]$ ./buildconf You don't have a copy of the apr source in srclib/apr. Please get the source using the following instructions, or specify the location of the source with --with-apr=[path to apr] : svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr/trunk srclib/apr You

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:22:58PM +, Nick Kew wrote: Can someone clarify: what happens *by default* if APR 1.0/1.1 is found on a target machine? If it tries to build against that, I'd support a -1. If it does something sensible - which could be emitting an error

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:33:51PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, so explain to me why we wasted a MB or two distributing srclib/apr/ and srclib/apr-util/ when the result is; That's not the result when you don't have apr/apu 1.x [x:2] installed. apr and apr-util 1.2 are bundled for

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:39:30PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, now what the heck? Looks like you've pointed the --with-apr options at trees which have been built, but arn't installed targets. find_apr.m4 tests for bin/apr-1-config -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:59:12AM +, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:39:30PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ok, now what the heck? Looks like you've pointed the --with-apr options at trees which have been built, but arn't installed targets. find_apr.m4 tests for

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: If apr 1.0 or 1.1 happen to be installed, I don't see why it's not reasonable to fail to configure. The administrator may intend to link against the system version, they may not want httpd having its own libapr. And they're the only people capable of making that decision

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 07:10:37PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: * admins who install 1.1 for some specific reason are responsible to ensure they deal with the new package correctly (e.g., we give them a message upon configure Found old APR 1.1.0, installing APR 1.2.2 for you

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version 1.2.0 or later... yes checking for APR-util version 1.2.0 or later... no

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 01:25:38AM +, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: There's no reason why this can't be fixed during 2.2, but with a months old issue, and no sign of a patch, should it hold up a GA? No way. -- justin

[STATUS] (httpd-2.0) Wed Nov 30 23:49:14 2005

2005-11-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 2.0 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-11-21 15:22:22 -0500 (Mon, 21 Nov 2005) $] The current version of this file can be found at: * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/STATUS Documentation status is

[STATUS] (httpd-2.1) Wed Nov 30 23:50:36 2005

2005-11-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 2.3 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-11-13 02:22:18 -0500 (Sun, 13 Nov 2005) $] The current version of this file can be found at: * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS Documentation status is maintained

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Sander Temme wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version 1.2.0 or later... yes checking for APR-util version 1.2.0 or

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: There's no reason why this can't be fixed during 2.2, but with a months old issue, and no sign of a patch, should it hold up a GA? I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing and testing httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:10 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Sander Temme wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-apr=srclib/apr --with-apr- util=srclib/apr-util checking for chosen layout... Apache [...] checking for APR version

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing and testing httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as guilty as anyone. So we've been compiling and improving the code, but the build/ install

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:35:07PM -0800, Sander Temme wrote: I'm looking at this. If you give that apu buildconf the right --with- apr parameter, buildconf completes. The problem is, if the Just to reiterate - buildconf is not necessary for users to run.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:35:07PM -0800, Sander Temme wrote: I'm looking at this. If you give that apu buildconf the right -- with- apr parameter, buildconf completes. The problem is, if the Just to

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Paul Querna wrote: Available from: http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/dev/httpd-2.2.0/ Please vote on releasing as GA/Stable. +1 for release as 2.2.0. I have verified the signatures, compared the contents, diffed

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:53:22AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Is buildconf present? If the user runs it, does it corrupt the unpacked tree? Um. Have you even *tried* to run './buildconf' in an extracted httpd 2.2.0 tarball? I have - guess what? It works just fine. Therefore, there