Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-16 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I think you misunderstood JB. He wasn't talking about providing the artifacts afaik. But yeah, if you want to avoid each karaf instance going to maven central you could deploy a nexus and change the etc/org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.cfg config to point to it On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:07, Charles Moullia

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-16 Thread Charles Moulliard
Hi JB, What you propose looks like a nexus - sonatype repository management platform for Karaf. Do we need that ? What could be the benefit to use JNDI or LDAP to find features/bundles ? Regards, Charles On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM, wrote: > Hi guys, > > Correct me if I'm wrong but, curre

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread David Jencks
On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:10 PM, karafman wrote: > > Charles Moulliard wrote: >> >> The idea to use OBR resolver api and OBR Server is excellent by >> allowing to hide the real repository used behind (maven, obr, ivy, >> ) >> >> When deploying project into production, we are always faced to >>

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread karafman
of resources. >>>>>> That's why I've tried to split it in two parts: the client which can >>>>>> connect to a server over a REST protocol.  It's far from production >>>>>> ready but that could give us a starting point. >>>>>> At that time, I've also rewritten the OBR plugin for the webconsole >>>>>> so >>>>>> that it can handle complex queries, displaying dependencies and all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not quite sure to understand what your vision is.  The webconsole >>>>>> already offer a lot of features to manage the repositories and see >>>>>> the >>>>>> dependencies.  I'm sure it could be rewritten to be more user >>>>>> friendly, but in terms of big features, what do you see added to it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> JB >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > Charles, There is a way to get around the whole issue with requiring a client to have access to a maven repository. I use a perl script that creates a local repository with all of the bundles for an application once I get it successfully deployed into Karaf (tested, working, etc). Basically, it parses each bundle's bundle.location file to get the mvn uri, and then drops the bundle into that location in the local repo, under its appropriate name. It also creates a simple features.xml file in that local repository. Then, I add that local repository name to the features.cfg file, tar up the local repo and etc directories, and blammo, instant installation package! Too bad we don't have this sort of functionality built into the karaf console. Something like dev:createDeploymentRepository... - Karafman Slayer of the JEE Pounder of the Perl Programmer -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Enterprise-OBR-in-Karaf-tp2665722p2683856.html Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Charles Moulliard
The idea to use OBR resolver api and OBR Server is excellent by allowing to hide the real repository used behind (maven, obr, ivy, ) When deploying project into production, we are always faced to administrators reluctant to use maven. Using an OBR server embedded in karaf will allow us to achi

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Agree, it's not provisioning (we can use ACE or another tool for provisioning). My purpose is more to have a central OBR, monitored and administrated by a admin, which could be used by OBR clients, including Karaf. Regards JB On 03/15/2011 01:06 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:26, Achim Nierbeck wrote: > Hi, > > did I get that right, you plan to use Karaf as a OBR Server? > Cause right now I think we are more used to use OBR from the client view, > right? > > Concerning the central Manager for other instances of a clustered > environment. Do

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Ioannis Canellos
I can see that being really useful in many ways! +1 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote: > Hi JB, > > You are right the discussion about clustering this should be discussed > somewhere else :) > > I can see your point about the OBR provisioning for Client instances > and so for

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi JB, You are right the discussion about clustering this should be discussed somewhere else :) I can see your point about the OBR provisioning for Client instances and so forth, so +1 from me for finding a good solution for this. :) Regards, Achim 2011/3/15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré : > Hi Achim,

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Achim, my comments inline: did I get that right, you plan to use Karaf as a OBR Server? Cause right now I think we are more used to use OBR from the client view, right? Exactly. Karaf acts more as a OBR "client" right now, but it ships also an OBR. My purpose is to be able (optionally) to

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi, did I get that right, you plan to use Karaf as a OBR Server? Cause right now I think we are more used to use OBR from the client view, right? Concerning the central Manager for other instances of a clustered environment. Do we really want to have a Managing instance like in the "good old days

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Guillaume, my vision is: 1/ only add an optional feature to be able to use Karaf OBR as an Enterprise OBR (including RESTful, web administration) 2/ regarding the Karaf clustering, it could be interesting to have a central Karaf manager providing a central OBR The things that you described

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-15 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 17:41, wrote: > Hi guys, > > Correct me if I'm wrong but, currently, we have an OBR into Karaf. > I wonder if it could be interesting to extend this OBR in a more enterprise > oriented way (as an optional feature) with: > - RESTful service to administrate the repo and up

Re: Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-14 Thread Andreas Pieber
Hey JB, On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM, wrote: > Hi guys, > > Correct me if I'm wrong but, currently, we have an OBR into Karaf. Well, I would rather say we have an Felix OBR integration in Karaf :) > I wonder if it could be interesting to extend this OBR in a more enterprise > oriented way

Enterprise OBR in Karaf ?

2011-03-11 Thread jb
Hi guys, Correct me if I'm wrong but, currently, we have an OBR into Karaf. I wonder if it could be interesting to extend this OBR in a more enterprise oriented way (as an optional feature) with: - RESTful service to administrate the repo and upload/download bundle - support of kar and features