Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: While I somewhat agree with both the points of Furkan and Alexandre, I am not sure which way you are leaning: If somebody had

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Toke Eskildsen
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 08:35 +0200, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com wrote: 5. Do something about JavaDocs polluting Google Index. At minimum, create /latest/ as a stable URL path and have it very Google visible. Make the

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ्
How do we plan to redirect? If I reached a specific page in the wiki after searching in Google and now tog forward me to the home page of cwiki ? Isn't it better to give links at the top of the page to relevant sections in cwiki (as much add possible) I'm +1 for locking the old wiki down On 7 Apr

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Follow-up in-line. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar shalinman...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch arafa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: 2. Mark it as Google non-crawlable

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar shalinman...@gmail.com wrote: 7. Setup proper analytics (is there any?), so we could at least tell what people find and what they do not. I know this has come up before. I think there is a legal issue with using free analytics tools such

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-07 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Right. Now I just need to become a committer. :-) Regards, Alex On 07/04/2014 8:01 pm, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar shalinman...@gmail.com wrote: 7. Setup proper analytics (is there any?), so we could at least tell what

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-06 Thread Grant Ingersoll
While I somewhat agree with both the points of Furkan and Alexandre, I am not sure which way you are leaning: Should we pull off the band-aid or not? And do no other committers have an opinion here? -Grant On Apr 5, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Furkan KAMACI furkankam...@gmail.com wrote: | I think an

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-06 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 4/6/2014 4:12 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: While I somewhat agree with both the points of Furkan and Alexandre, I am not sure which way you are leaning: Should we pull off the band-aid or not? And do no other committers have an opinion here? One of the strengths (and weaknesses!) of the old

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-06 Thread Erick Erickson
+1 to making the CWiki the One True Source (tm) for Solr documentation. Rip the damn band-aid off. Deal with the screams by asking anyone with a beef to contribute to the CWiki. Not quite sure the mechanism here though. Maybe Cassandra and Hoss have some thoughts here? The point is that I want

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-06 Thread Jan Høydahl
Main question: Should we [] Lock down the Solr Wiki sooner rather than later and put all focus on adding to and improving the Ref Guide +1 And put 301 redirects to cwiki for as many of the old pages as possible. Can we have a new Confluence space where non-committers are allowed to share

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-06 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: While I somewhat agree with both the points of Furkan and Alexandre, I am not sure which way you are leaning: If somebody had time/money/permission, that's what I would do 1. Migrate wiki to an archive area in bulk and

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-05 Thread Furkan KAMACI
| I think an interesting side-effect issue here is user perception. I | feel that ElasticSearch (yet, them) get a lot of points not only | because of features (not discussing that here) but because they | actually have taken time to put a polish on the SEO, onboarding and | other human perception

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-04 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Apr 3, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Yonik Seeley yo...@heliosearch.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Lock down the Solr Wiki [...] the Wiki should simply be tips, tricks, etc. and is NOT official documentation and committers, for the most part,

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Miller
I’m not too worried about locking anything down, but the current situation is quite confusing. It can be hard to tell what docs you should be looking at for a new user. I’ve started putting big warnings and links on a couple important pages for the old Wiki, but we should really a do a lot

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-04 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
+1 on consolidating to the Reference Guide and figuring out the way to make wiki a lot less visible. But for a completely different set of reasons than discussed already. [[rant-start]] I think an interesting side-effect issue here is user perception. I feel that ElasticSearch (yet, them) get a

Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-03 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Hi, Main question: Should we [] Lock down the Solr Wiki sooner rather than later and put all focus on adding to and improving the Ref Guide [] Leave the wiki open for anyone to edit now and selectively go through and try to reconcile it (and delete as we move) and encourage people to go to the

Re: Solr Ref Guide vs. Wiki

2014-04-03 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Lock down the Solr Wiki [...] the Wiki should simply be tips, tricks, etc. and is NOT official documentation and committers, for the most part, don't worry about curating content there. These two things seem