RE: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Sean W. O'Quin
Well in my experience most of the computers running Windows 98/ME will not have memory and processor capacity to handle modern application technologies. Those who are stuck on Win 98 for whatever reason should continue to use existing versions of OOo that do support their platform. > -Origina

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Kirill Palagin (Y)
- Original Message From: Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:37:35 PM >Kirill Palagin (Y) wrote (11-2-2008 20:54) >> I would bet money nothing will be backported, so our users will miss >> some long awaited features and start moving to supported platforms, >>

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Kirill Palagin (Y)
I would bet money nothing will be backported, so our users will miss some long awaited features and start moving to supported platforms, including new versions of Windows. So if we stop supporting Win98 we will drive sales for MS. I sure do not want that. IMO, unless supporting Win98 really req

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Cristian Driga
Hi Benjamin, Benjamin Horst wrote: Cristian, You are right that some companies and individuals are still on Windows 98 by necessity. One advantage the OOo community has (as does any FOSS community), is that older versions of OOo will still be available alongside the latest. So for users who

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Benjamin Horst
Cristian, You are right that some companies and individuals are still on Windows 98 by necessity. One advantage the OOo community has (as does any FOSS community), is that older versions of OOo will still be available alongside the latest. So for users who cannot run 3.0, they'll still be abl

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Cristian Driga
Benjamin Horst wrote: If someone has a computer that old, they really should switch it to Linux anyway! :) I still know some small companies for which Win98SE suffices and they still have applications hard to run under Linux. In companies forced to adopt a M$$ license and which have mission

RE: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Sean W. O'Quin
My .02 >From a marketing perspective, I do not think that promoting or offering compatability with EOL'd versions of Windows will assist in the adoption of OOo 3.0. Sean > -Original Message- > From: John McCreesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:34 AM > To:

[marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread John McCreesh
How do we feel aout this from a Marketing perspective? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org Original Message Subject: [releases] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release From:"Martin Hollmichel

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Craig A. Adams
Hi John, All, I must support the request from Charles Schultz for more information from the Martin (and the releases list) for more information on the technical challenges of further support for OOo on Windows 98. I personally believe that ongoing Windows 98 support is important from a marketing

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Benjamin Horst wrote (11-2-2008 21:00) The following link is worth a read to help inform this discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems Windows 98 usage share estimates range from 0.66% to 1.39% (for various surveys from mid-2007 to Feb. 2008): Well, th

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, How do we feel aout this from a Marketing perspective? I see no problems with abandoning '98 support. '98 and Me are way out of date and are not being used widely anymore. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [marketing] Campus Reps idea

2008-02-11 Thread Richard Ha
Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:50:37 -0600, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Alexandro, > >> Hi people looking at the Mozilla project they are having this >> initiative on Campus Reps (representatives) means an official contact >> that represents the

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Kirill Palagin (Y) wrote (11-2-2008 20:54) I would bet money nothing will be backported, so our users will miss some long awaited features and start moving to supported platforms, including new versions of Windows. So if we stop supporting Win98 we will drive sales for MS. I sure do not want that

[marketing] Re: [releases] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Martin, Le 11 févr. 08 à 16:48, Martin Hollmichel a écrit : All, since the efforts for supporting Windows98 and WindowsME are reasonable high and makes maintainability of the code quite hard, I would like to propose to drop Windows 98/ME support with the release of OOo 3.0. Windows98 is a

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, Le 11 févr. 08 à 17:34, John McCreesh a écrit : How do we feel aout this from a Marketing perspective? from that perpective only, I think it would be unreasonnable. I think MS Win98 market share is still higher than Vista or at least comparable. So we should not drop our support of the

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Benjamin Horst
If someone has a computer that old, they really should switch it to Linux anyway! :) I think ending support for Windows 98 will have no negative impact on our marketing. In fact, we could probably spin it to be positive somehow... "our code base is too modern and dynamic to be compatible with p

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Benjamin Horst
The following link is worth a read to help inform this discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems Windows 98 usage share estimates range from 0.66% to 1.39% (for various surveys from mid-2007 to Feb. 2008): -Ben OpenOffice and open source blog: http:

Re: [marketing] Proposal: Drop Win98 support with OOo 3.0 release

2008-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws
John McCreesh wrote (11-2-2008 17:34) How do we feel about this from a Marketing perspective? Some thoughts: Not too fine, because I always like to say that one OOo can be used on any (close to) version of windows. That argument becomes a little less valid. OTOH, Win98 is old, and Win98 us

[marketing] CeBIT in Hannover

2008-02-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, this year, we have some free day tickets for CeBIT in Hannover, where the Germanophone project will exhibit together with service companies. CeBIT is from March 4th to March 9th. If anyone from the community is interested in visiting CeBIT, please drop me a private e-mail with the amo

Re: [marketing] Campus Reps idea

2008-02-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:14:35 -0600, Richard Ha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:50:37 -0600, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Alexandro, Hi people looking at the Mozilla project they are having this initiative on Campus Reps