Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Cristian Driga wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: Pls see this for a start: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing--ToDo#Marketing_Material I am glad to see you starting up documents for dealing with PIM integration issue. Glad I've been able to do so. Place to display the

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 11:00:32 -0500, Steven Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Again this is missing the point the marketing list shouldn't solve the problem since they are not in the position to solve it. They should just come forward with an explanation on what is going on and what is ther

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Steven Shelton
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Tue, 02 May 2006 08:28:06 -0500, Steven Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Along the lines of the "What's the roadmap because we want to spread accurate information" query, I remember a year or two ago when this topic came up there was a

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 09:08:45 -0500, Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro, I've started the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Open_Letter_Re:_OOo_PIM It includes a (very, very) rough outline of a letter to address the many requests for a PIM. I'

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 08:28:06 -0500, Steven Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Along the lines of the "What's the roadmap because we want to spread accurate information" query, I remember a year or two ago when this topic came up there was a great deal of movement

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 08:23:56 -0500, Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro, On Tuesday May 02 2006 08:53, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting an open >> letter explaining the reason why we don't have these might at le

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cristian Driga
Hi Cor, Jeffrey, all, Cor Nouws wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: The only thing we do know, ist that OOo 2.x doesn't have one. So giving good info for people standing up with their hands up in the air 'what to do now' is very usefull. Pls see this for a start: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wik

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote: The only thing we do know, ist that OOo 2.x doesn't have one. So giving good info for people standing up with their hands up in the air 'what to do now' is very usefull. Pls see this for a start: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing--ToDo#Marketing_Material GRe

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jeff, Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA wrote: Alexandro, I've started the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Open_Letter_Re:_OOo_PIM Good to see your start, Jeff. In the mean time I was working on this: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing--ToDo#Marketing_Materi

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
Alexandro, I've started the following page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Open_Letter_Re:_OOo_PIM It includes a (very, very) rough outline of a letter to address the many requests for a PIM. I'll keep working on it, but it is going to take me some time to go back through the many t

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Steven Shelton skrev: For that matter, it should be a relatively simple matter to put a PIM into OOo: just download the Mozilla Thunderbird code, tweak it a bit to add the OOo graphics and "look and feel", and badda-boom, badda-bing, you got yourselves a simple PIM/email client. IIRC, Mozilla'

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Steven Shelton
Alexandro Colorado wrote: For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has extended a bit too much and I realize this is really puting a lot of pressure on prooject such as the marketing list to come

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
I have long time ago stopped trying to find out what the development priorities for OOo/SO are, who controls them (probably someone at Sun) and how these priorities are matched against any analysis of market demands (if any such analysis are ever made). There is no bitterness in this - it's jus

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
Alexandro, On Tuesday May 02 2006 08:53, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting an open > >> letter explaining the reason why we don't have these might at least > >> prove a stance on the issue. Not doing it will just be failing to > >> communi

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting an open letter explaining the reason why we don't have these might at least prove a stance on the issue. Not doing it will just be failing to communicate. I think the best option is to start working

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 07:53 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>> > >> Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting an open > >> letter explaining the reason why we don't have these might at least > >> prove a stance on the issue. Not doing it will just be failing to > >> co

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 07:47 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > What happens if we do this and Sun then decides an E-mail client is a > > good idea and starts the work to incorporate it in version 3? Would be a > > bit embarrassing. > > > > I dont think it will, we would have done our job at the

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting an open letter explaining the reason why we don't have these might at least prove a stance on the issue. Not doing it will just be failing to communicate. I think the best option is to start working on mockups on how this op

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 07:35:43 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 07:21 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I think the OOo Marketing project truely has a challenge in > communicating this issue and pointing end users to good alternatives to > Outlook. > > Finn >

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Tue, 02 May 2006 03:20:52 -0500, Finn Gruwier Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado skrev: For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has extended

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 07:21 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > I think the OOo Marketing project truely has a challenge in > > communicating this issue and pointing end users to good alternatives to > > Outlook. > > > > Finn > > > Ok so the next step is how do we comunicate. I think puting a

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, 02 May 2006 03:20:52 -0500, Finn Gruwier Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado skrev: For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has extended a bit too much and I realize

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Alexandro Colorado skrev: For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has extended a bit too much and I realize this is really puting a lot of pressure on prooject such as the marketing list to come

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 21:53 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons > and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has > extended a bit too much and I realize this is really puting a lot of > pressure on

Re: [Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The OK ... issue has extended a bit too much and I realize this is really puting a lot of pressure on prooject such as

[Marketing] Issue about PIM on OOo

2006-05-01 Thread Alexandro Colorado
For the past few weeks there has been a very big discussion about reasons and what and why not does OOo doesn't come with a PIM. The issue has extended a bit too much and I realize this is really puting a lot of pressure on prooject such as the marketing list to come forward with document