Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-16 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jan 11, 2006, at 23:50, Graham wrote: I've rarely seen this explained so succintly, a definite addition to my quote file. Thanks Thanks, Graham. I have turned it into a blog posting[1] so I can find it again when I need it. S. [1] http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink?entry=f

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-13 Thread WebDev
On Monday 09 January 2006 11:41 pm, DC Parris wrote: > Greetings! > > I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in > R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D. I believe > it does. Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in R&D? I > a

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread Lars D . Noodén
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Alex Fisher wrote: [snip] They spend it on research and development for sure... Researching the market, and developing their marketing ploys, researching their competitors patent portfolio, and developing their own The term "Research and Development" can mean anything you

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread Graham
Simon Phipps wrote: I was with you at the beginning of that, Don, but I'm surprised to hear you saying "free R&D" given what you've written on LXer recently. It's not free/gratis. It costs every one of us time, many of us money as well. As the cost of the R & D is not bourne by a single

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread Alex Fisher
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:00, Lars D. Noodén wrote: > Another route would be to question the basis of MS' claims for investing > $50 bn in R&D. After all, what are the visible results, we'd expect some > results, right? > > I am fairly skeptical that far from the full amount is actually used for > re

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Another route would be to question the basis of MS' claims for investing $50 bn in R&D. After all, what are the visible results, we'd expect some results, right? I am fairly skeptical that far from the full amount is actually used for research or development. One reason for this skepticism i

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread DC Parris
On Tue, January 10, 2006 21:37, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2006, at 02:24, Steven Shelton wrote: > >> Simon Phipps wrote: >>> I was with you at the beginning of that, Don, but I'm surprised to >>> hear you saying "free R&D" given what you've written on LXer >>> recently. It's not free/grat

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-11 Thread DC Parris
On Tue, January 10, 2006 20:18, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2006, at 22:37, DC Parris wrote: > >> On Tue, January 10, 2006 13:42, John McCreesh wrote: >>> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:41 -0500, DC Parris wrote: Greetings! I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Don, DC Parris wrote: Greetings! I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D. I believe it does. Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in R&D? I am also contacting some other major p

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread Steven Shelton
Simon Phipps wrote: I was with you at the beginning of that, Don, but I'm surprised to hear you saying "free R&D" given what you've written on LXer recently. It's not free/gratis. It costs every one of us time, many of us money as well. As the cost of the R & D is not bourne by a single entity,

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jan 11, 2006, at 02:24, Steven Shelton wrote: Simon Phipps wrote: I was with you at the beginning of that, Don, but I'm surprised to hear you saying "free R&D" given what you've written on LXer recently. It's not free/gratis. It costs every one of us time, many of us money as well. As

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread DC Parris
On Tue, January 10, 2006 13:42, John McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:41 -0500, DC Parris wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in >> R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D. I >> believe >> it does. Can t

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:41 -0500, DC Parris wrote: > Greetings! > > I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in > R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D. I believe > it does. Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in R&D? I > a

Re: [Marketing] Investing In Research & Development

2006-01-10 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
Hello Don, DC Parris wrote: >Greetings! > >I am responding to an article that claims Microsoft invests $50b/year in >R&D - as if the libre software community doesn't invest in R&D. I believe >it does. Can the OOo team help me quantify what gets invested in R&D? I >am also contacting some other