Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-12 Thread John McCreesh
This request has provoked some very interesting discussion on the dev@ list which I am sure Florian will take forward. After reading the email chain, my judgment is that the MP has not turned down this request, so I'll pass it on the the CC treasurer for processing. John -- John McCreesh - Market

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-09 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Lars, all, I haven't been able to join this discussion earlier, so I'd like to focus on a few points about this specific meeting not already covered IMHO: Lars Nooden schrieb: Alexandro Colorado wrote: ... Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to become good enough than t

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Cor Nouws wrote: > - there is a strong wish to explore and extend the possibility to hold > more virtual meetings; These would be real meetings, not virtual ones, just that they occur online and that communication is done electronically. Regardless of conferences, physically meetings, mailing lis

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Florian Effenberger wrote (08-01-10 16:11) Hi Alexandro, I will +1 up it, but also request recordings (audio or video) on the meeting, so would be great to hold on the german for a minute don't get me wrong - this wasn't meant to be mean. :-) The marketing budget is not my money, it is for t

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Alexandro, I will +1 up it, but also request recordings (audio or video) on the meeting, so would be great to hold on the german for a minute don't get me wrong - this wasn't meant to be mean. :-) The marketing budget is not my money, it is for the marketing project, and therefore the maj

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I will +1 up it, but also request recordings (audio or video) on the meeting, so would be great to hold on the german for a minute Simple Smartphone with a record application should be enough. On 1/8/10, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > seems that this topic is quite controversial... :-) >

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, seems that this topic is quite controversial... :-) Luckily, I didn't book anything yet. As time runs out for travel arrangements, I'd love to hear some more opinions on it from the folks on this list. Should the majority be against the trip/funding, I will not attend, as I can't cover th

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, That would be dial-in conferencing not generic voice conferencing. SIP, or another open standard, is what is needed to ensure open access to the conferencing. you know how very well SIP *not* works behind NAT or firewalls? SIP probably is the worst way of phone conferencing at all, altho

Re: Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Gianvittorio
Florian, FYI it doesn't matter. Skype can call the conferencing system as well. It is true that Skype is FREE and can provide the ability to do video conferencing. Just my $0.02, Gian On Fri 08/01/10 14:12 , Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org sent: > Hi Lars, > > >> - People who had be

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Lars, > >>> - People who had been invited to this meeting and can not attend are >>> able to join via voice conferencing and/or Skype. >> >> Skype =! VoIP. One of the marketing or development goals for 2010, >> should be a voice infrastructure to go with the mailin

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Lars, - People who had been invited to this meeting and can not attend are able to join via voice conferencing and/or Skype. Skype =! VoIP. One of the marketing or development goals for 2010, should be a voice infrastructure to go with the mailing list infrastructure. we have found a qui

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > >>> Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to >>> become good enough than to spend most of the budget on >>> transportation and accommodations. >> >> I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a >> case for using the budg

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Juergen Schmidt
On 1/8/10 1:46 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to become good enough than to spend most of the budget on transportation and accommodations. I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a case for using the budget

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to become good enough than to spend most of the budget on transportation and accommodations. I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a case for using the budget on transportation in this particular instance.

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > ... > Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to become good > enough than to spend most of the budget on transportation and > accommodations. I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a case for using the budget on transportation

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
By the way I am not trying to block this meeting, but maybe we should think more seriously about this for the future meetups. On 1/8/10, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I dont want to be the party pooper but as a person who deal with many > people everyday on different continents I would rather have

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I dont want to be the party pooper but as a person who deal with many people everyday on different continents I would rather have a tinychat on that topic and buy everyone a good webcam/mic, save on fair and also expand this meeting to a series of meetings that we can keep a schedule on. Oh and als

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2010/1/6 Rosana Ardila Biela : > I would like to ask for funding for a visual identity meeting in Hamburg. > Florian Effenberger and Bernhard Dippold will be in the Sun office on the > 12th and 13th January and we will discuss Bernhard's idea of a new Branding > project. As this is an importan

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rosana, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote (06-01-10 16:30) I would like to ask for funding for a visual identity meeting in Hamburg. Florian Effenberger and Bernhard Dippold will be in the Sun office on the 12th and 13th January and we will discuss Bernhard's idea of a new Branding project. As this