Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-15 Thread Mauro Talevi
Mauro Talevi wrote: Ok - so two scenarios are possible: 1. Improve wagon abstraction: separate concerns and introduce the missing features in the appropriate different abstraction layers (ie upload and download) 2. Remove wagon and implement in maven-artifact, but you'll still end up fa

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-15 Thread Mauro Talevi
Jason van Zyl wrote: In this case I think the abstraction being neglected hasn't bought us much. And that a more focused approach on what's most commonly used will give the real chance to improve the instabilities we have and give people an easier chance of understanding the codebase without

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 10 Sep 07, at 7:43 AM 10 Sep 07, Joakim Erdfelt wrote: Just a thought, but why not dump wagon in 2.1 and just use the java.net package for file / http / https / ftp fetch, any valid java.net.URL could work that way. Instead of picking and choosing what to support, just punt and support wh

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 9 Sep 07, at 2:46 AM 9 Sep 07, Mauro Talevi wrote: Brett Porter wrote: On 09/09/2007, at 1:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Not using Wagon, our abstraction, and directly focusing on HTTP. Doesn't that mean adding a bunch of HTTP code, listeners, etc into the artifact code - and making two p

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 8 Sep 07, at 2:56 PM 8 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: On 09/09/2007, at 1:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Not using Wagon, our abstraction, and directly focusing on HTTP. Doesn't that mean adding a bunch of HTTP code, listeners, etc into the artifact code - and making two places to maintain

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Mauro Talevi
Brett Porter wrote: On 09/09/2007, at 1:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Not using Wagon, our abstraction, and directly focusing on HTTP. Doesn't that mean adding a bunch of HTTP code, listeners, etc into the artifact code - and making two places to maintain something essentially the same, tha

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Christian Gruber
Darn-it. Now you went and said, in two sentences, what I was saying in three paragraphs. Grrr. christian. On 10-Sep-07, at 11:32 AM, Brian E. Fox wrote: I really hope that we're not trying to keep file:// around so that it's easier to _distribute_ repositories. I don't think that's the m

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Christian Gruber
To me file:// repos were for local situations where you wanted to test or fix maven build behaviour because of some condition. For example, you're one machine is behind a firewall and you are not able to cross the boundary to pull in stuff into your build system, so you create a repo for t

RE: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Brian E. Fox
>I really hope that we're not trying to keep file:// >around so that it's easier to _distribute_ repositories. I don't think that's the motivation. It's just that there are some cases where remote repos can't be done (usually more for organizational/political) reasons than technical.

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Gregory Kick
A quick thought about file:// repositories: I've seen it done from time to time, and I always thought that it was decidedly un-maven. Instead of distributing a framework with copies of jars, which seemed to be the problem remote repositories were trying to solve, you just distribute the same colle

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 9/10/07, Joakim Erdfelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a thought, but why not dump wagon in 2.1 and just use the java.net > package for file / http / https / ftp fetch, any valid java.net.URL > could work that way. > > Instead of picking and choosing what to support, just punt and support >

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-10 Thread Joakim Erdfelt
Just a thought, but why not dump wagon in 2.1 and just use the java.net package for file / http / https / ftp fetch, any valid java.net.URL could work that way. Instead of picking and choosing what to support, just punt and support what is in java itself for fetch. And we can get rid of a lot of

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-08 Thread Brett Porter
On 09/09/2007, at 1:11 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Not using Wagon, our abstraction, and directly focusing on HTTP. Doesn't that mean adding a bunch of HTTP code, listeners, etc into the artifact code - and making two places to maintain something essentially the same, that doesn't really bu

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-08 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 8 Sep 07, at 8:50 AM 8 Sep 07, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 9/7/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Brian E. Fox wrote: I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. For deploying or actually pulling? Deploying is a totally differ

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-08 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 9/7/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7 Sep 07, at 5:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Brian E. Fox wrote: > > > I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. > > > > For deploying or actually pulling? Deploying is a totally different > story. I know tons of people who use fil

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-08 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 8 Sep 07, at 5:43 AM 8 Sep 07, Mauro Talevi wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Brian E. Fox wrote: I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. For deploying or actually pulling? Deploying is a totally different story. I know tons of people

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-08 Thread Mauro Talevi
Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:20 PM 7 Sep 07, Brian E. Fox wrote: I don't currently, but have in the past used file:// for remote. For deploying or actually pulling? Deploying is a totally different story. I know tons of people who use file, dav, scp, and ftp. Strictly for pullin

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:43 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: On 08/09/2007, at 10:37 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different s

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
other then HTTP? -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:55 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only After thinking about Greg's comments I think it would be interesting to ask peop

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/09/2007, at 10:37 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different story. I use the wagon-scm stuff for audit trail and dep

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7 Sep 07, at 5:16 PM 7 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote: file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). Right, deployment is a different story. I use the wagon-scm stuff for audit trail and deploy there. I'm talking strictly about pulling. I'd

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread John Casey
n Developers List Subject: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only After thinking about Greg's comments I think it would be interesting to ask people who actually uses anything but HTTP repositories for consumption? Deployment is a totally different story, but to radically simplify the cor

RE: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
List Subject: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only After thinking about Greg's comments I think it would be interesting to ask people who actually uses anything but HTTP repositories for consumption? Deployment is a totally different story, but to radically simplify the core

Re: Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Brett Porter
file:// ? I also know of some wagon-scm + SVN uses (though they could download over HTTP). I'd be hesitant to remove this without doing some decent polling of users (and probably a deprecation cycle). - Brett On 08/09/2007, at 8:55 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: After thinking about Greg's co

Using HTTP repositories for consumption only

2007-09-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
After thinking about Greg's comments I think it would be interesting to ask people who actually uses anything but HTTP repositories for consumption? Deployment is a totally different story, but to radically simplify the core what if we only allowed HTTP repositories for consumption in 2.1