Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Ernst Fastl
Hmm, sounds interesting, what exactly would you have in mind, something like a Callback for additional security checks which receives the viewId and then can check wheather or not access is allowed and return a boolean or so? On 10/30/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ernst, you

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
look at the nh_impl. you see it :) On 10/30/06, Ernst Fastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, sounds interesting, what exactly would you have in mind, something like a Callback for additional security checks which receives the viewId and then can check wheather or not access is allowed and return

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
I definitely think Ernst's idea is a good one - and I do think that a configuration-parameter for adding this would be optimal. The dummy-form stuff was not compatible with the RI, overwriting a navigation-handler in tomahawk, behaving differently if a configuration parameter is set; would of

RE: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KSFD 121\)
If you specify the navigation in the faces-config.xml, then you are already using a configuration parameter... I this case you would not have to define another web-context parameter... The idea sounds like the DefaultServlet from Tomcat... easy to become addited to ;) regards Alexander

[jira] Commented: (TOMAHAWK-530) imageLocation of inputCalendar does not work

2006-10-30 Thread Holger Schimanski (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-530?page=comments#action_12445521 ] Holger Schimanski commented on TOMAHAWK-530: I got a patch by private email from another MyFaces user. Maybe you can use this code to solve this

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 10/29/06, Ernst Fastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi!At the moment when no navigation case for an outcome is foundthe navigationHandler decides to stay at the same view. I thinkan option for web.xml would be useful to tell the navigationHandlerif no navigation case for an outcome is found, but the

[jira] Created: (TOMAHAWK-758) Enable traditional submit for exceptions during partial update to show error pages

2006-10-30 Thread Ernst Fastl (JIRA)
Enable traditional submit for exceptions during partial update to show error pages -- Key: TOMAHAWK-758 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-758 Project:

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Craig, you have been argumenting into this direction before, and I'm sorry to disagree completely. What JSF does in the standard is good for projects where you have this necessity of different roles for page development and back-end development. Generally - for small projects, and the

[jira] Updated: (TOMAHAWK-700) enable shareing partialTriggers between Forms

2006-10-30 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-700?page=all ] Gerald Müllan updated TOMAHAWK-700: --- Status: Resolved (was: Patch Available) Resolution: Fixed enable shareing partialTriggers between Forms

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 10/30/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Craig,you have been argumenting into this direction before, and I'm sorry todisagree completely. What JSF does in the standard is good forprojects where you have this necessity of different roles for page development and back-end

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! 1) I have a managed-bean action-method which returns overview and this means, I'll go to overview.jsp As long as you placed all your jsps in the root of your webapp this works nicely, you can check if there is a navigation rule and - if not, simply add .jsp and move to this view. But if you

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
It is much easier for a developer (especially if they are beginners in JSF) to return name of the page instead of event occurred in page (logical outcome) as output. There are some bad development practices, which when a developer get used to them, it is hard to forget, I think this

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Mario, well, the question is if we find a good convention-over-configuration approach, and the discussion really boils down to your remark about whether you can derive the view-id from the outcome nicely. Good point. Ernst? regards, Martin On 10/30/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread David Chandler
Don't forget that returning view IDs in outcomes will break tool support such as the visual page flow designer in Exadel Studio. Even without tools, I find it extremely helpful as a developer to be able to look in one place to see how the application flows. The proposed capability would make that

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi David, @breaking tool support: yes, that's true, and is something that might or might not be of interest to developers. @application size: For an application with 2000 views, we're definitely talking about large-size here. I'm absolutely d'accord that for a large size applications with a

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
Hi Martin, may be this feature is very good for highly professional developer like you, but consider those developers new in JSF.what is the different between this and using forward and redirect methods, from developer point of view? (not considering JSF life cycle problems) (if a developer uses

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Arash, I don't think we're in the JSF space to force developers to do something in a certain way. The navigation system of JSF is good, it's been devised with decoupling in mind, and you might want or not want that for your application - I don't think that the rationale behind this is hard to

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
Hi Martin,First thanks for taking time and answering me.Believe me or not, the concept is hard to grasp for lots of developers, at least for people in my country who are not as wise and intelligent as people in Germany and Austria, lots of developers are not Computer Science

[jira] Updated: (TOMAHAWK-758) Enable traditional submit for exceptions during partial update to show error pages

2006-10-30 Thread Ernst Fastl (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-758?page=all ] Ernst Fastl updated TOMAHAWK-758: - Status: Patch Available (was: Open) Enable traditional submit for exceptions during partial update to show error pages

javadoc

2006-10-30 Thread Sebastian Menge
Hi I've subscribed to this list to post just one remark/question. Myfaces is a great implementation. Another example of an opensource effort that will soon be better than the RI. But! ;-) Please take more care on documentation. The javadoc is really really a joke. Please dont mind. I want to

Re: javadoc

2006-10-30 Thread Dennis Byrne
PS I know, writing docs is not so exciting as implementing features or new components. And if you want to do it good, its really difficult. (I think even more difficult than programming, because you have to think like your potential reader(s) and not only like the machine ...). At last a good

Re: javadoc

2006-10-30 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
Hi Sebastian,there are 1) Java Docs2) wiki pages3) maven XML documents which generate web site of myfacesthese should be updated and synchronized together, I have started to work on wiki, I hope when I finish we can start synchronizing javadocs and web pages. if you are interested to help you are

Ajax/ActiveMQ supports MyFaces, Portlets, Spring frameworks ??

2006-10-30 Thread jt_rm
[EMAIL PROTECTED], We would like to use Ajax/ActiveMQ (AMQ servlets) for server-push feature in some of our usecases in the webapplication project. We are shortlisting to use opensource AppFuse application using MyFaces - Spring - Hibernbate frameworks for our webapplication development. We

Re: javadoc

2006-10-30 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Montag, den 30.10.2006, 15:20 + schrieb Dennis Byrne: Sounds like an opportunity for you to contribute something to the open source community. You're right, and I am thinking about it, but my time is also sparse. Perhaps ill have some time in 2007. Two additional notes before assigning

Re: Option for NavigationHandler to support viewIds as outcome

2006-10-30 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 10/30/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reality there is a dependency between two pages, there is a silentcontract how to prepare the managed beans so that the destination pageknows what to display (and I think the f:param stuff is useless here). So more often than not you'll use

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1483) renderSelectOptions - null itemStrValue can lead to conversion error rather than required value validation error

2006-10-30 Thread Rajeev Chandrasekaran (JIRA)
renderSelectOptions - null itemStrValue can lead to conversion error rather than required value validation error Key: MYFACES-1483 URL:

Re: TCK Tests for MYFACES-1467

2006-10-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
wow did you ran it also with out that patch? I don't think that that patch cause the TCK failure I expect an error somewhere, but not in that area. Thanks! M On 10/15/06, Thomas Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran the TCK tests. 3 test cases failed. I will send the report within the next

[jira] Created: (TOBAGO-166) FileItemValidator that checks the size of the file and the content type of the file

2006-10-30 Thread Bernd Bohmann (JIRA)
FileItemValidator that checks the size of the file and the content type of the file --- Key: TOBAGO-166 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-166 Project:

[jira] Created: (TOMAHAWK-759) When type=both, inputDate does not accept null value

2006-10-30 Thread Abhilash Kumar (JIRA)
When type=both, inputDate does not accept null value -- Key: TOMAHAWK-759 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-759 Project: MyFaces Tomahawk Issue Type: Bug

[jira] Resolved: (TOBAGO-120) enable configuration of max filesize and uploadTempDir for Fileupload

2006-10-30 Thread Bernd Bohmann (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-120?page=all ] Bernd Bohmann resolved TOBAGO-120. -- Resolution: Fixed enable configuration of max filesize and uploadTempDir for Fileupload

[jira] Resolved: (TOBAGO-115) myFaces/Tobago does not work in Internet Explorer on Windows 2000 2003

2006-10-30 Thread Bernd Bohmann (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOBAGO-115?page=all ] Bernd Bohmann resolved TOBAGO-115. -- Fix Version/s: 1.0.9 Resolution: Fixed With the latest changes it should work. myFaces/Tobago does not work in Internet Explorer on Windows 2000