Result - Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
Hi Thanks to all people who vote. We have 10 +1 for jul Mario Ivankovits Simon Lessard Werner Punz Gerhard Petracek Michael Concini Grant Smith Mike Kienenberger Jan-Kees Van Andel Manfred Geiler Cagatay Civici So we can continue with this change. There is a proposal about how to do this change here. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378 People interested about how this change should be done please post any comments there. If no objections, I'll commit these patches soon. regards Leonardo Uribe
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for JUL On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel jankeesvanan...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL. Jan-Kees van Andel 2009/10/1 Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com: +1 for jul -- it's not ideal, but it's the standard and doesn't require any dependencies. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for JUL On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 17:02, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote: +1 for JUL On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel jankeesvanan...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL. Jan-Kees van Andel 2009/10/1 Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com: +1 for jul -- it's not ideal, but it's the standard and doesn't require any dependencies. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for JUL. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Manfred Geiler manol...@apache.org wrote: +1 for JUL On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 17:02, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote: +1 for JUL On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel jankeesvanan...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL. Jan-Kees van Andel 2009/10/1 Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com: +1 for jul -- it's not ideal, but it's the standard and doesn't require any dependencies. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for JUL. Jan-Kees van Andel 2009/10/1 Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com: +1 for jul -- it's not ideal, but it's the standard and doesn't require any dependencies. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for jul. However, I think we should add an utility class (ServletContextListnener? This is the easiest way I know of, if it qualifies for easiest at all) in myfaces-shared or extension to make it easier to configure the logger because it's way more annoying to configure than commons-logging backed with log4j imho. Regards, ~ Simon On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Mario Ivankovits ma...@ops.co.at wrote: +1 for jul reduces dependencies - and sun also use it, no? *Von:* Leonardo Uribe [mailto:lu4...@gmail.com] *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 01. Oktober 2009 04:06 *An:* MyFaces Development *Betreff:* [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0 Hi Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). It is necessary to unify in one way or another the code of 2.0.x branch, but before that, it is necessary to ask the community about this issue. So, please vote in this way: +1 for jul +1 for commons-logging +0 -1 and let the code as is (and a reason why). regards, Leonardo Uribe
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
Again +1 for jul... One dependency less is always a good thing. Werner Leonardo Uribe schrieb: Hi Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). It is necessary to unify in one way or another the code of 2.0.x branch, but before that, it is necessary to ask the community about this issue. So, please vote in this way: +1 for jul +1 for commons-logging +0 -1 and let the code as is (and a reason why). regards, Leonardo Uribe
RE: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
IMHO configuring the logger has to be solved by the used container. Ciao, Mario Von: Simon Lessard [mailto:simon.lessar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 01. Oktober 2009 16:57 An: MyFaces Development Betreff: Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0 +1 for jul. However, I think we should add an utility class (ServletContextListnener? This is the easiest way I know of, if it qualifies for easiest at all) in myfaces-shared or extension to make it easier to configure the logger because it's way more annoying to configure than commons-logging backed with log4j imho. Regards, ~ Simon On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Mario Ivankovits ma...@ops.co.atmailto:ma...@ops.co.at wrote: +1 for jul reduces dependencies - and sun also use it, no? Von: Leonardo Uribe [mailto:lu4...@gmail.commailto:lu4...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 01. Oktober 2009 04:06 An: MyFaces Development Betreff: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0 Hi Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). It is necessary to unify in one way or another the code of 2.0.x branch, but before that, it is necessary to ask the community about this issue. So, please vote in this way: +1 for jul +1 for commons-logging +0 -1 and let the code as is (and a reason why). regards, Leonardo Uribe
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
2009/10/1 Leonardo Uribe lu4...@gmail.com: Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D Antonio
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
Antonio Petrelli schrieb: 2009/10/1 Leonardo Uribe lu4...@gmail.com: Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J ;-)
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com Again +1 for jul... One dependency less is always a good thing. Werner Leonardo Uribe schrieb: Hi Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). It is necessary to unify in one way or another the code of 2.0.x branch, but before that, it is necessary to ask the community about this issue. So, please vote in this way: +1 for jul +1 for commons-logging +0 -1 and let the code as is (and a reason why). regards, Leonardo Uribe
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith
Re: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for jul -- it's not ideal, but it's the standard and doesn't require any dependencies. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 java.util.logging.Logger On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Michael Concini mconc...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for JUL Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2009/10/1 Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com: Why don't you consider using SLF4J? Probably it is the same question asked over and over again, but I try anyway :-D That would be a dependency replacement with another. Just my personal opinion regarding SLF4J Don't bother, I noticed that there is a bridge with which you can use JUL messages with SLF4J: http://www.slf4j.org/legacy.html For a library like MyFaces makes perfectly sense. Antonio -- Grant Smith
RE: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
+1 for jul reduces dependencies - and sun also use it, no? Von: Leonardo Uribe [mailto:lu4...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 01. Oktober 2009 04:06 An: MyFaces Development Betreff: [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0 Hi Right now, facelets code added to myfaces core 2.0.x branch uses jul in this form: protected final static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(facelets.viewhandler); But the original myfaces code uses commons logging, (so if there is no agreement about use jul, we should unify logging code using commons-logging). It is necessary to unify in one way or another the code of 2.0.x branch, but before that, it is necessary to ask the community about this issue. So, please vote in this way: +1 for jul +1 for commons-logging +0 -1 and let the code as is (and a reason why). regards, Leonardo Uribe
