Maybe we should stop the voting process
+1 (due to several reasons)
new suggestion:
if a sub-project would like to switch to jul, we don't need a vote (since
there is no new dependency).
if a sub-project would like to switch e.g. to slf4j, we have to vote (due to
the new logging-framework
+1 for Gerhard new suggestion.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Gerhard Petracek
gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe we should stop the voting process
+1 (due to several reasons)
new suggestion:
if a sub-project would like to switch to jul, we don't need a vote (since
there is no
I agree with Hazem, +1 for Gerhards suggestion.
/Jan-Kees
2009/7/8 Hazem Saleh haz...@apache.org:
+1 for Gerhard new suggestion.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Gerhard Petracek
gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe we should stop the voting process
+1 (due to several reasons)
new
Bernd Bohmann schrieb:
Hi,
i think many users are still using log4j in their projects.
Switching to jul instead of slf4j would cause more consequences for the user.
But maybe I'm wrong.
Regards
Bernd
Maybe we should stop the voting process for now until we have done
further research on the
Hi,
Is this an invalid veto?
To prevent vetos from being used capriciously, they must be
accompanied by a technical justification showing why the change is bad
(opens a security exposure, negatively affects performance, /etc./). A
veto without a justification is invalid and has no weight.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Ganeshgan...@j4fry.org wrote:
Hi,
Is this an invalid veto?
maybe. not sure if pushing this is healthy for the community too.
If he wants to not use jul, it is OK w/ me...
To prevent vetos from being used capriciously, they must be accompanied
by a technical
Hi,
i think many users are still using log4j in their projects.
Switching to jul instead of slf4j would cause more consequences for the user.
But maybe I'm wrong.
Regards
Bernd
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Ganeshgan...@j4fry.org wrote:
Hi,
Is this an invalid veto?
To prevent vetos
+1 away from commons logging
-1 force to use jul
I would prefer slf4j because it's a logging facade similar to commons logging.
And I would like to use Mapped Diagnostic Context (MDC) support. Has
jul a similar feature?
Regards
Bernd
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Andrew
Quick googling reveals that WAS does at least since 6.0,
http://www.webagesolutions.com/knowledgebase/waskb/waskb026/index.html
Weblogic also:
http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs81/javadocs/weblogic/logging/WLLevel.html
not sure about the others like jetty though, but you can use sl4j
adapters in
You can use slf4j as a facade for JUL though, can't you ?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a
Sorry to pollute the vote with a discussion ;)
+1 for JUL
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Grant Smith work.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
You can use slf4j as a facade for JUL though, can't you ?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.comwrote:
+1
Gerhard Petracek
I think I have a question...
Is this to *force* all the subprojects to use jul ???
If so, I'll change my vote to -1
Also, I know that Tobago has a JIRA issue to use slf4j. What's
wrong with them using that ?
I am not sure on this vote, but if the goal is to *push* one decision
to all the
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which are
ok, that answers my question.
currently using commons-logging.
so e.g. trinidad isn't affected. details are available at [1]
if there won't be a majority, we will open a second vote (switch from
commons-logging to
+0, I'd prefer slf4j as well. But, I am +1 of getting away from
commons logging as it has too many issues.
-Andrew
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Werner Punzwerner.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
For Trinidad, we keep our Trinidad logger (at least I am not chaning
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which are
currently using commons-logging.
so e.g. trinidad isn't affected. details are available at [1]
if there won't
+0.75
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Gerhard
Petracekgerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which are
currently using
+1
Gerhard Petracek wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which
are currently using commons-logging.
so e.g. trinidad isn't affected. details are
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Gerhard
Petracekgerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which are
currently using
+1
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Curtiss Howardcurtiss.how...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Gerhard
Petracekgerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a
+1
Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. Juni 2009 20:33
An: MyFaces Development
Betreff: [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's
-0.5, I like slf4j :)
Regards,
Cagatay
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which
are currently
+1 for JUL.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Cagatay Civici cagatay.civ...@gmail.comwrote:
-0.5, I like slf4j :)
Regards,
Cagatay
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
+0.5
I like SLF4J as well, but I won't get in the way of JUL.
Never used JUL myself, so I don't know for sure if there might be any
hidden quirks. ;-)
--Manfred
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 20:32, Gerhard
Petracekgerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about
+1
Gerhard Petracek schrieb:
hi,
short description:
this first vote is about the switch from commons-logging (cl) to
java.util.logging (jul).
it's a binding vote for the next releases of all myfaces libs which are
currently using commons-logging.
so e.g. trinidad isn't affected. details
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