RE: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-09 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Start voting? ;-) From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:45 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces yes the -1 vote would be a veto in view of slf4j - no agreement - we would vote about jul. or as mario suggested

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-09 Thread Gerhard Petracek
*To:* MyFaces Development *Subject:* Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces yes the -1 vote would be a veto in view of slf4j - no agreement - we would vote about jul. or as mario suggested - let's start voting about jul. @mario: yes - i'll wait until monday for sure. and we should vote a bit longer than

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-06 Thread Werner Punz
+1 for that, the issue simply is, there is a standard api, while not the best it works good enough (since JDK5) and it is simple enough to be used why not finally get rid of another dependency. I am not a huge fan of dependencies in base projects anyway, so everything which removes one gets

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-06 Thread Gerhard Petracek
that would be possible as well. i just started with slf4j since we already discussed it and udo wrote about the switch to slf4j in the next release... we could also vote first about slf4j and everybody who prefers jul should vote -1 if we don't have a majority for slf4j, we have to vote about

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-06 Thread Ganesh
Hi, we could also vote first about slf4j and everybody who prefers jul should vote -1 if we don't have a majority for slf4j, we have to vote about jul. is that ok for everybody? From http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html my understanding of a -1 vote is different from this.

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-06 Thread Gerhard Petracek
yes the -1 vote would be a veto in view of slf4j - no agreement - we would vote about jul. or as mario suggested - let's start voting about jul. @mario: yes - i'll wait until monday for sure. and we should vote a bit longer than usual - due to holidays (+ it's an important topic for all myfaces

Re: AW: slf4j and myfaces

2009-06-06 Thread Werner Punz
Mario Ivankovits schrieb: Hi! The only downside I see is that we might break compatibility for java 1.4 since JUL gut some overhaul between 1.4 and 5, but on the other hand is it really important anymore? Which projects still have to be on 1.4 In 1.4.2 the log methods in question were