yes the -1 vote would be a veto in view of slf4j
-> no agreement -> we would vote about jul.

or as mario suggested - let's start voting about jul.

@mario:
yes - i'll wait until monday for sure. and we should vote a bit longer than
usual - due to holidays (+ it's an important topic for all myfaces projects)

regards,
gerhard

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2009/6/6 Ganesh <gan...@j4fry.org>

> Hi,
>
> > we could also vote first about slf4j and everybody who prefers jul should
> vote -1
> > if we don't have a majority for slf4j, we have to vote about jul.
> > is that ok for everybody?
>
> From http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html my understanding of a -1
> vote is different from this.
>
> << Vetos
>
> A code-modification proposal may be stopped dead in its tracks by a -1 vote
> by a qualified voter. This constitutes a veto, and it cannot be overruled
> nor overridden by anyone. Vetos stand until and unless withdrawn by their
> casters.
>
> To prevent vetos from being used capriciously, they must be accompanied by
> a technical justification showing why the change is bad (opens a security
> exposure, negatively affects performance, etc.). A veto without a
> justification is invalid and has no weight. >>
>
> Better use the fraction system for voting on the logging system:
>
>   * +0: 'I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okey with this.'
>   * -0: 'I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we didn't do this.'
>   * -0.5: 'I don't like this idea, but I can't find any rational
> justification for my feelings.'
>   * ++1: 'Wow! I like this! Let's do it!'
>   * -0.9: 'I really don't like this, but I'm not going to stand in the way
> if everyone else wants to go ahead with it.'
>   * +0.9: 'This is a cool idea and i like it, but I don't have time/the
> skills necessary to help out.'
>
> Best regards,
> Ganesh
>
>
>

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