[VOTE] Apache NetBeans 12.0-u2

2021-02-09 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Dear all, This is the voting candidate for the 12.0 update 2 release of Apache NetBeans. This release is identical to 12.0-u1 except for the following backported fixes for - [NETBEANS-5336] Replace jcenter() to mavenCentral() in Gradle Projects [NETBEANS-3342] Fix Netbeans Installer on macOS to

Re: compile NetBeans with JDK11

2021-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Dne úterý 9. února 2021 22:02:14 CET, Brad Walker napsal(a): > Hey Jaroslav, > > I have a question related to this. > > What would be the proper, accepted way to build Netbeans using JDK11? Hello Brad, [in November](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ r94d421ce16f609687c769125425b46f2322033879

Re: compile NetBeans with JDK11

2021-02-09 Thread Emilio Gallardo Cantella
Just my 2 cents: consider how currently the build instructions for each release on the website (https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/nb122.html), and the build from source instructions on the daily builds page (https://netbeans.apache.org/download/dev/index.html), are fairly different. N

Re: Gephi & NetBeans was: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:56 PM Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > Dne úterý 9. února 2021 10:04:57 CET, Clement Levallois napsal(a): > > Dear all, > > > > This is my first message to this list, happy to join! > > > > Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful > > opensource desk

Re: Netbeans Long Term Java Planning

2021-02-09 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:54 PM Eric Bresie wrote: > So from an initial plan perspective I would assume part of the "table or > work" would involve > I'd like to point out one thing: currently, the oldest JDK on which NetBeans runs is JDK 8, but that does not mean it does not run on newer JDKs. Q

compile NetBeans with JDK11

2021-02-09 Thread Brad Walker
Hey Jaroslav, I have a question related to this. What would be the proper, accepted way to build Netbeans using JDK11? -brad w. ps: I changed the subject line since the question is not directly related.. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:19 PM Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > Hi. > I knew the time for a dis

Gephi & NetBeans was: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Dne úterý 9. února 2021 10:04:57 CET, Clement Levallois napsal(a): > Dear all, > > This is my first message to this list, happy to join! > > Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful > opensource desktop app built on top of the NetBeans platform (release82). Great,

Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11 was: Netbeans Long Term Java Planning

2021-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Hi. I knew the time for a discussion like this is going to come when I wrote my "Compile with JDK-11 javac --release flag" in November. I have just been trying to find the email in archives, but no luck! I had to resend it. Here is it for your reference: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ r9

Re: [DISCUSS] Compile with JDK-11 javac --release flag

2021-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Has anyone seen this email? I haven't received any replies and I cannot find it in the mailing list archive... -jt Sent on Nov 28, 2020: > Hi. > The release is successfully over, long live the next release! > > Since the [failure of modern code](https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/ > 2369)

Re: Netbeans Long Term Java Planning

2021-02-09 Thread Eric Bresie
So from an initial plan perspective I would assume part of the "table or work" would involve 1. For Netbean codebase, for applicable Java version, updated to reflect removed (and deprecated) APIs (see (1); the ticket may be a "starter point" (epic) with children or follow up items as app

Re: Netbeans Long Term Java Planning

2021-02-09 Thread Eric Bresie
Would some place like here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Proposals be where something like that would be added? Or is there a better place for that to be done (i.e. netbeans-docs project, etc.)? Unless I'm not at the right location, I don't appear to have write access there

Re: Netbeans Long Term Java Planning

2021-02-09 Thread Peter Blemel
All, My only concern about JDK8 is that I deploy my J2EE application on a Payara server, and there seems to be some dependencies on JDK8. I know that I should be able to run Netbeans on one JDK while developing my application to deploy on another version, but whenever I do that I end up with we

Re: Netbeans Git Performance

2021-02-09 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2021, 07:42 -0600 schrieb Eric Bresie: > I’m not sure why working in Netbeans git should take any significant > time > more than command line version. I had a look at the profile and it is dominated by hashing and io operations. I saw a time difference of around 30s clo

Re: Disabled mirroring of hg.netbeans.org -> netbeans.osuosl.org (was: Re: Missing platform-launchers-12.2.zip?)

2021-02-09 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Eric, Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2021, 07:48 -0600 schrieb Eric Bresie: > I appreciate the mirroring of the binaries (based on recent GitPackages > discussion)however this still makes me wonder why is are these mirrored > binaries needed and why not just use another existing (maven) repository

AW: Netbeans Git Performance

2021-02-09 Thread Christian Lenz
DId you check your Windows Defender Settings? Maybe you can add the NetBeans Folder as an exclusion. Cheers Chris Von: Eric Bresie Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2021 14:42 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: Netbeans Git Performance I’m on Windows 10 (Home) using Netbeans 12.2. I notic

Re: Disabled mirroring of hg.netbeans.org -> netbeans.osuosl.org (was: Re: Missing platform-launchers-12.2.zip?)

2021-02-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 13:48, Eric Bresie wrote: > I appreciate the mirroring of the binaries (based on recent GitPackages > discussion)however this still makes me wonder why is are these mirrored > binaries needed and why not just use another existing (maven) repository > with the artifacts?

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Eric Bresie
I thought initial attempts to “mavenize” Netbeans had already been attempted (I believe by Tim) although maybe that was the contrib projects. Are there any plans to switch over to that (i.e. add all the Pom.xml files, updated any build documentation, etc.)? Seems that would help some with dependen

Re: Disabled mirroring of hg.netbeans.org -> netbeans.osuosl.org (was: Re: Missing platform-launchers-12.2.zip?)

2021-02-09 Thread Eric Bresie
I appreciate the mirroring of the binaries (based on recent GitPackages discussion)however this still makes me wonder why is are these mirrored binaries needed and why not just use another existing (maven) repository with the artifacts? Using these repositories could address having newer alrea

Re: Netbeans Git Performance

2021-02-09 Thread Eric Bresie
I’m on Windows 10 (Home) using Netbeans 12.2. I noticed there may be an update to git libraries coming in 12.3 timeframe so maybe this will help on this. I’m not sure why working in Netbeans git should take any significant time more than command line version. Other than older git dependencies, I

Re: Friday, January 22: 12.3 Feature Freeze

2021-02-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 22:00, Josh Juneau wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > Thanks for preparing for the release. I'd like to get PR 2684 on the list to > merge for 12.3, if possible. This PR will add Jakarta EE 9 project support. > I will try to get this reviewed and merged if it is okay to add to thi

NB 12.3 schedule update

2021-02-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 18:10, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > We could aim for: > > - beta1 -- Wednesday, 27 January > - beta2 -- Wednesday 3 February > - voting candidate -- Wednesday, 10 February > > It's probably a long shot we can keep to that schedule, but we might > as well try! OK, we said this

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 09:30, Clement Levallois wrote: > The support for loading / offloading of java modules at runtime has emerged: > https://github.com/moditect/layrry Well, the support for doing this was always there within JPMS, obviously. A more interesting thing to look at given NetBeans

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Eduardo Ramos Ibáñez
Hi Clement and everyone, First of all, thanks Geertjan and all maintainers of Netbeans platform for their past and current work. Of course, we have and will update Gephi to use recent versions of the netbeans platform, the latest Gephi release uses 8.2 which is old, but we will use an up to date

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great, understood, and excellent to 'meet' again, Eduardo. However, the specific requirements that Gephi has can only be added to Apache NetBeans if Gephi itself is involved in doing so and, in fact, leads these developments. Gj On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:02 AM Eduardo Ramos Ibáñez wrote: > Hi

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The Gephi engineers are welcome to introduce Layrry to Apache NetBeans, which appears to imply that all of Apache NetBeans needs to be Mavenized as well, which the Gephi engineers are also welcome to contribute. Anyone else here are welcome to do the same, it does appear to be a lot of work, though

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Clement Levallois
The support for loading / offloading of java modules at runtime has emerged: https://github.com/moditect/layrry For the compatibility with recent JDKs, I was referring to: - nbm-maven-plugin relies on pack200, which has been removed from the JDK (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Moreover, when are developers from Gephi going to start contributing code to Apache NetBeans? Gj On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:22 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 09:05 Clement Levallois, > wrote: > > > Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful > > opensour

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 09:05 Clement Levallois, wrote: > Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful > opensource desktop app built on top of the NetBeans platform (release82). > ... > If I understand correctly, it seems that NetBeans (release82) is not > compatible with t

Re: NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
What does it mean "it is not entirely compatible with recent JDKs"? Of course, NetBeans uses the NetBeans module system. Let's move to the Java module system once it supports updates at runtime, i.e., you cannot plug new Java modules into a running Java application, can you? Gj On Tue, Feb 9, 20

NetBeans platform: roadmap for compatibility with recent JDKs and the Java module system?

2021-02-09 Thread Clement Levallois
Dear all, This is my first message to this list, happy to join! Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful opensource desktop app built on top of the NetBeans platform (release82). I am not the maintainer of Gephi but I support its community of users (8.4k Facebook