Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
NetBeans is full of references and usages of third party technologies. Indeed, if there's a particular technology that isn't supported correctly in NetBeans or is outdated, just create an issue and let's work on it. Can we do that, point to a specific problem that needs to be fixed? Gj On Thu,

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Will Hartung
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:22 PM Ernie Rael wrote: > The point is that depending on a 3rd party project for functionality > that NetBeans provides is a problem. But there is push back to provide > even simple maven archetypes. And, at least possibly until now, little > interest in supplying arche

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, 21:28 Ernie Rael, wrote: > > So in your humble (ie non-lawyer) opinion, you might change your vote if > someone (not necessarily from Oracle) made an unambiguous statement in > the artifact that all the files are CPE. (vote reference independent of > any technical issues) >

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, 21:12 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote: > Does it help that all the files making up nb-javac, when scanned for CPE, > only the files that will not end up in the JAR are not covered by CPE? > Since a PMC should be fully capable of reading and understanding a simple > list of condition

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
On 4/21/2021 1:04 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? everytime a license question comes up, the only r

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:04 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: > > If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into > > a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? > > everytime a license que

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2021, 11:01 -0700 schrieb Ernie Rael: > If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into > a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? everytime a license question comes up, the only right answer is: Ask _your_ lawyer (and be pr

Re: Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
IMHO, NB should "own" that archetype, publish, and maintain it Couldn't agree more. But here's one case study that shows some of the problems that might be faced. When I fixed javafx-maven to "run/debug out of the box", I created a very small independent (not a fork) github project for java

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Ernie Rael
IANAL. If I take random files, all of which are GPL-CPE, and bundle those into a jar and put it in maven central then can I call it GPL-CPE? It's too bad the question asked at the end of https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues/LEGAL-563 was not answered. It looks like we've go

Netbeans "owning" Maven archetypes

2021-04-21 Thread Will Hartung
I touched on this talking about the EJB new project support and how it's currently broken. Fundamental to this is that the IDE relies on the Maven archetype templating system to generate project artifacts. It also wraps that process up in some wizard code, and it may well do some other things, I h

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Matthias Bläsing
-1 (binding) I agree with Neil on this. This feels rushed and indeed license verification will be interesting. I agree with legal here, that GPL-v2-CPE is an ugly beast and especially ugly, as Sun/Oracle decided not to go full GPL-v2-CPE, but partitial GPL-v2 (Tests and at least hotspot to my kno

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
+1 Kai On 4/16/2021 6:34 PM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: Dear community, vote for [Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ r94a2caf8ada7c4ed023348c7581015b554eb86dd2192fe99f9ac%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E) has successfully finished and I believe it is time for o

Re: Collaborative Editing with Netbeans

2021-04-21 Thread Mario Schroeder
There is an old post on the Netbeans home page. Maybe that's it what you are looking for: https://netbeans.apache.org//kb/docs/ide/team-servers.html Am Mi., 21. Apr. 2021 um 14:49 Uhr schrieb Mar R : > This started another conversation I'm sorry, I don't know how to continue > the ones created be

Re: Collaborative Editing with Netbeans

2021-04-21 Thread Mar R
This started another conversation I'm sorry, I don't know how to continue the ones created before I joined the mailing list Il giorno mer 21 apr 2021 alle ore 14:47 Mar R ha scritto: > Do you remember the name of that plugin? I used one to back in NB 8 or 9 > but I can't find it anymore > > > Th

Re: Collaborative Editing with Netbeans

2021-04-21 Thread Mar R
Do you remember the name of that plugin? I used one to back in NB 8 or 9 but I can't find it anymore Thanks On 2021/01/17 19:04:54, Eric Bresie wrote: > With recent discussions on zoom call for release manager training, this got me wondering if some sort of collaborative tool would be helpfu

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 17:34, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > This PMC vote is a follow up requested when issue > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues/LEGAL-563 > was resolved. Let's be clear, the current resolution on LEGAL-563 is - "As long as Oracle can provide a clear statement in L

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2 with nb-javac (VSIX)

2021-04-21 Thread Johan Vos
+1 (binding) On 2021/04/16 16:34:50, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > Dear community, > vote for [Apache VSNetBeans 12.4 Beta 2](https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ > r94a2caf8ada7c4ed023348c7581015b554eb86dd2192fe99f9ac%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E) > > has successfully finished and I believ

RE: Deliver branch for 12.4 and rc1

2021-04-21 Thread constantin drabo
Thanks for update. ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re dans un berceau. ?? - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de l'a??rospatiale modernes. De : Geertjan Wielenga Envoyé : mardi 20 avril 2021

Deliver branch for 12.4 and rc1

2021-04-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, With nb-javac now included, thanks Akhilesh, I'm now going to create the delivery branch and put together rc1 for 12.4. Any comments welcome. Gj