Re: [DISCUSS] Compiling against internal JDK classes was: Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11

2022-01-14 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Samstag, dem 15.01.2022 um 06:03 +0100 schrieb Jaroslav Tulach: > > I am changing the title to discuss usage of JDK internals. > > > 1. Question I: "sun.awt/sun.swing" classes. > > I suggest to avoid using the JDK internals as much as possible. E.g. > > > B) comment/remove this

Re: Excluding a module from build depending on JDK?

2022-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
út 11. 1. 2022 v 13:54 odesílatel Neil C Smith napsal: > Hi, > > Anyone know if there's a non-hacky way to exclude a module from being > included at all if building the IDE on JDK 8? There was an agreement to require JDK-11 to build NetBeans code. > I was under the > impression there might

Re: JavaFX classpath warning when building NB RCP with Maven

2022-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
FYI: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/1b96b56 & co. It gets interpreted by the NetBeans runtime system. -jt čt 13. 1. 2022 v 21:30 odesílatel Jean-Marc Borer napsal: > > https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/jar/jar.html#classpath > > But still, it is a very special

Re: Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
pá 14. 1. 2022 v 12:08 odesílatel Geertjan Wielenga napsal: > Hi all, > > Some interesting reading: > > https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/13/opensource_apacheplc4x_payment/ > > > https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/14/log4j_vulnerability_open_source_funding/ > > As established thus far, there

Re: [DISCUSS] Compiling against internal JDK classes was: Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11

2022-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Hello Antonio, I am changing the title to discuss usage of JDK internals. > 1. Question I: "sun.awt/sun.swing" classes. I suggest to avoid using the JDK internals as much as possible. E.g. > B) comment/remove this jdk-internal specific features in NetBeans? I'd encouraged you to rather create

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Bien
On 14.01.22 23:18, Brad Hards wrote: On Saturday, 15 January 2022 5:28:17 AM AEDT antonio wrote: All tutorials have this at the top: "This tutorial needs a review. You can open a JIRA issue, or edit it in GitHub following these contribution guidelines." With a proper link to the documentation

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Brad Hards
On Saturday, 15 January 2022 5:28:17 AM AEDT antonio wrote: > All tutorials have this at the top: > > "This tutorial needs a review. You can open a JIRA issue, or edit it in > GitHub following these contribution guidelines." > > With a proper link to the documentation contribution guidelines,

Re: [DISCUSS] Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11 was: reviving old thread

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
Not really familiar with the usage or code, but don't suppose BasicFileChooserUI which is in java.desktop serves a similar purpose does it? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:49 PM antonio wrote: > Of course not. Otherwise we'd be using the java.desktop APIs :-). > > I

Github Autolinking

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
>From a separate email thread: Not sure if this would help in integration between existing systems but is "autolink" enabled on github to ease references to NETBEANS JIRA tickets? If not [enabled] and the github product (pro, enterprise, etc.) in use allows its use, it seems like it might help a

Re: Aw: Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, 20:42 Eric Bresie, wrote: > (2) it is different for a "Feature", > Yes, the forms are quite different. Neil

Re: Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
Would it be worth putting a link / page maybe from the contribute" to provide a way of donations and/or links to "service providers for hire for Netbeans and/or Apache"? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:56 AM antonio wrote: > Related (Apache PLC4x) > > "Your free trial

Re: [DISCUSS] Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11 was: reviving old thread

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
Of course not. Otherwise we'd be using the java.desktop APIs :-). I believe this dependency with sun.swing and sun.awt internals was something that was added to NetBeans long ago [1], possibly to solve some bugs in JFileChooser in Windows back then. Cheers, Antonio [1]

Re: Aw: Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
I added a few comments to the initial test issue [1]. Not sure if this is of help. Not sure if I missed it or if something was done by others, but I created a test ticket for a Feature [2].I didn't see any of the suggested "fields" (i.e. areas, priorities, etc.) on the create page; how do

Re: [DISCUSS] Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11 was: reviving old thread

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
I'm sure some of this is a repeat but... Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:26 AM antonio wrote: > Regarding the adoption of JDK 11 and the future stragety we want to > follow, I have several questions: > > 1. Question I: "sun.awt/sun.swing" classes. > > We're using

[NETBEANS-189] Updates for Sql autocomplete / [NETBEANS-5831] Create a SQL Standard Quoter for Use with Connectionless Cases / PR-3074

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
Regarding [NETBEANS-189] Updates for Sql autocomplete The original ticket had this child ticket created which is also included as part of the request. [NETBEANS-5831] Create a SQL Standard Quoter for Use with Connectionless Cases Based on input from Matthias (thanks for the help), I updated and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode extension 12.6.301

2022-01-14 Thread Martin Entlicher
+1 (binding) Signatures checked, the built extension tested on Linux. Projects creation, ordinary editing/debugging and GraalVM's native image debugging. Martin From: Martin Balin Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 09:29 To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject:

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
All tutorials have this at the top: "This tutorial needs a review. You can open a JIRA issue, or edit it in GitHub following these contribution guidelines." With a proper link to the documentation contribution guidelines, which has a nice video explaining how to contribute (thanks, Gj!).

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
On my way! It seems the web archive is currently down, so'll have to wait a little bit to have those "dzone" links we're talking about. Also there's some nice content at blogs.sun.com/blogs.oracle.com we may want to point to. Cheers, Antonio El 14/1/22 a las 18:57, Geertjan Wielenga

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
The site that currently online is not the latest version. I compared the sources. Not the same. The one on github master seems fine. For example https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apache/netbeans-website/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/platform/index.asciidoc is supposed to render

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 17:08, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > When I follow the pages from > https://netbeans.apache.org/ I get: > https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/platform.html Follow which pages? There is no direct link from the homepage to there that I can tell. Neil

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
All the documents can be accessed by clicking the link to GitHub at the bottom of the page. Gj On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 6:59 PM Eric Bresie wrote: > I believe a lot of the documents is in asciidoc format. > > As I recall a job is run to regenerate the web site based on this. > > Not familiar

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Bresie
I believe a lot of the documents is in asciidoc format. As I recall a job is run to regenerate the web site based on this. Not familiar with how this is done but maybe some here knows better Get Outlook for iOS From: Jean-Marc Borer Sent:

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Will you fix the issue or shall I? I know as much about it as you do. Gj On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 6:54 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > DONE https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-6390 > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:29 PM antonio wrote: > > > Hi Jean-Marc, > > > > You can either open a JIRA

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
DONE https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-6390 On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:29 PM antonio wrote: > Hi Jean-Marc, > > You can either open a JIRA issue or send us a pull-request at > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/. > > Kind regards, > Antonio > > El 14/1/22 a las 18:07,

Re: Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
Hi Jean-Marc, You can either open a JIRA issue or send us a pull-request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/. Kind regards, Antonio El 14/1/22 a las 18:07, Jean-Marc Borer escribió: Hi, While looking for documentation, I was browsing the apache web site and it seems seriously

Re: Netbeans localization

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
Hi Danijel, AFAIU this should work as follows: 1. NetBeans is built as a set of modules. 2. Each module has a "manifest.mf" file (see [1] for an example) 3. Some of these files have an entry named "OpenIDE-Module-Localizing-Bundle" (see [2] for an example) 4. This means that the module has

Re: [DISCUSS] Let's require NetBeans to be built with JDK11 was: reviving old thread

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Bien
i would always vote for remove/replace if it causes so much dependency trouble (its "just" a file chooser, right?). reducing complexity is important, esp for old projects. -mbien On 14.01.22 08:26, antonio wrote: Hi all, Regarding the adoption of JDK 11 and the future stragety we want to

Re: Aw: Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-14 Thread Michael Bien
tbh I think we should probably make this a text field. Everyone looking at the report will have to second guess what "latest" means in context of the date. (I do know that it is mentioned in the guiding text that the reporter should mention the version somewhere - not sure if this is enough)

Serious issue with the web site

2022-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi, While looking for documentation, I was browsing the apache web site and it seems seriously broken. When I follow the pages from https://netbeans.apache.org/ I get: https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/platform.html where a lot of links are broken. Even the images where when I go trough google

Re: Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
Related (Apache PLC4x) "Your free trial version of “open-source” has expired, please update to a commercial plan" https://github.com/chrisdutz/blog/blob/main/plc4x/free-trial-expired.adoc Have fun, Antonio El 14/1/22 a las 14:06, antonio escribió: Agreed! Now onto the task: let's kick

Aw: Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-14 Thread Christian Lenz
Hey Matthias, sure I got your point. I just gave my opinion and see also problems when we will not have this. I think it will be just fine to talk to the people and let them know enough that they shouldn't expect anything at all. Cheers Chris > Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2022 um 12:19

Re: Netbeans localization

2022-01-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Downloaded it here: http://www.ancestris.org/index.html#featured-services And found many languages supported, a long list, but when a different language is chosen, everything changes to that language except... the NetBeans Platform parts. Probably they'd be interested in fixing that, together

Re: Netbeans localization

2022-01-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Awesome! And welcome. :-) There's an interesting application on the NetBeans Platform called Ancestris: http://www.ancestris.org/index.html It comes in several languages: https://docs.ancestris.org I've been meaning to for a long time to get in touch with them to learn from them how they

Re: Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread antonio
Agreed! Now onto the task: let's kick butt and have fun! Cheers, Antonio On 14/01/2022 12:07, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: For me personally, I may be arriving at a situation where I'm going to be ignoring e-mails clearly coming from corporations and (to avoid those people switching to gmail

Netbeans localization

2022-01-14 Thread Danijel Mišanovič
Greetings all! We have interest in localizing the platform to Slovenian language and we came to a hold on how to continue. We managed to checkout https://github.com/apache/netbeans-l10n build and prepare a few projects (Italian, Polish) for which there were already some translation sources but

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode extension 12.6.301

2022-01-14 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi -1 because of NOTICE file outdated. Would have been ok otherwise. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Jaroslav Tulach Envoyé : jeudi 13 janvier 2022 10:57 À : dev Objet : Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode extension 12.6.301 +1 (binding) Checked SHA signatures.

Re: Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread Brett Ryan
You just shook my tree to start contributing again, I have been a bit quiet lately due to time constraints, but I do mean to get back on the horse. On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 22:08, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > Some interesting reading: > >

Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 21:09, Benjamin Asbach wrote: > I'm a little bit curious how this "latest Release" field is supposed to > work? Is this moved automatically when a new release was pumped out? No, nothing is moved automatically. Bear in mind that the forms here only structure the text that

Log4J and its consequences for NetBeans and open source in general

2022-01-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Some interesting reading: https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/13/opensource_apacheplc4x_payment/ https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/14/log4j_vulnerability_open_source_funding/ As established thus far, there is no impact on NetBeans for the log4j situation in terms of attack vectors,

Re: [External] : [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode extension 12.6.301

2022-01-14 Thread Dusan Balek
+1 (binding) Features tested on Linux. SHA check is OK. Dusan On 1/13/22 9:29 AM, Martin Balin wrote: Dear community, let's update the Apache NetBeans Language Server extension on VSCode Marketplace with significantly improved version 12.6.301